5yr. old kick/pushed off slide in MS nothing done

[OkToBeTakei]

School is a place to be "safe" not to learn how to handle dangerous situations or be challenged.

Seriously? What the fuck :lol:

School was exactly where I learned to be challenged I thought that was the point? Dangerous situations not so much. Bugs the crap out of me that society expects the education system to over protect their kids the way they as parents wish to, then complain incessantly about the education system itself when it fails on the impossible yardsticks that parenting is set at anyway.

[Savoring Samsara]

Seriously? What the fuck :lol:

School was exactly where I learned to be challenged I thought that was the point? Dangerous situations not so much. Bugs the crap out of me that society expects the education system to over protect their kids the way they as parents wish to, then complain incessantly about the education system itself when it fails on the impossible yardsticks that parenting is set at anyway.

I think that post was maybe meant as sarcasm, I hope?

[OkToBeTakei]

I think that post was maybe meant as sarcasm, I hope?

Sarcasm is my chosen vehicle, always :lol:

Although helicopter parents deserve a good dose of sarcasm at all times.

[toejamflipflop]

That poor baby girl. As a parent I would get to the bottom of the attack on this child. If an adult had any hand in this childs injuries I say let the offenders be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. What I wouldn't do to have a child. Unfortunately I was unlucky when it came to having children- sigh.

[shedemei]

I agree that something seems off, mostly because of the gofundme. This reminds me of the fake KFC harassment story.

Whatever happened to that little girl, I hope it is discovered and prevented from happening ever again.

[BrownieMomma]

Seriously? What the fuck :lol:

School was exactly where I learned to be challenged I thought that was the point? Dangerous situations not so much. Bugs the crap out of me that society expects the education system to over protect their kids the way they as parents wish to, then complain incessantly about the education system itself when it fails on the impossible yardsticks that parenting is set at anyway.

Ok well how dangerous do you want school to be?

Being challenged in PE to climb a rope and ring a bell under the guidance and supervision of a trained teacher is one thing, let fly on the playground unsupervised with kids to scrap it out with each other is quite another.

Being sued is something every institution has to consider, and schools are no different. I don't think it has much at all to do with helicopter parenting at all.

[OkToBeTakei]

Ok well how dangerous do you want school to be?

Being challenged in PE to climb a rope and ring a bell under the guidance and supervision of a trained teacher is one thing, let fly on the playground unsupervised with kids to scrap it out with each other is quite another.

Being sued is something every institution has to consider, and schools are no different. I don't think it has much at all to do with helicopter parenting at all.

I think it very much is. I agree with others that not every change that happens as society moves on is bad but equally not every change is good. I'm not meaning the case in question which appears unusual and severe, not to mention shady considering the 'justice for' page and the 'raising funds' page. Maybe it's the litigious culture you mention more than helicopter parenting that's at fault in society today or a mix.

My child's school has been fundraising for the past year for play equipment for the playground. By the reasoning mentioned here maybe they should not bother as the first time a child slips, trips or falls they may face being sued by some litigious parent. Nobody wants their child to be hurt ever, but I also want my child to play and I also know that even when supervised in the playground accidents can happen. There has to be a balance.

[formergothardite]

Ok well how dangerous do you want school to be?

Being challenged in PE to climb a rope and ring a bell under the guidance and supervision of a trained teacher is one thing, let fly on the playground unsupervised with kids to scrap it out with each other is quite another.

Being sued is something every institution has to consider, and schools are no different. I don't think it has much at all to do with helicopter parenting at all.

I would hope that the teachers would be supervising during playground time and not let the kids just run like feral monkeys. Before my children started school there was quite a scandal at one of the area schools. The teachers were huddled over talking and not paying attention to the kids and they went to the edge of the one little wooded area in the playground, found a stash of porn magazines and all these little five and six year olds huddled around and flipped through them. Apparently this went on for quite a bit before the teachers decided to walk over and see what the children were up to. Nobody sued the school and they actually managed to keep it hushed up pretty well, but the story traveled through word of mouth. Teachers need to be supervising during playground time so that kids could face challenges like learning to not walk in front of swings and tackling the monkey bars.

[Trynn]

Right. No one is suggesting kids run around unsupervised on the playground. Just that they should learn to handle "dangerous" things, and that in an environment where someone is watching that can be a good thing.

[FiddleDD]

Almost 20 years ago when I was in fourth grade (eek I feel old) I had moved to a new school where there was no playground. There was literally a giant pile of dirt (which we weren't allowed to play on). We could play on the pavement or the more athletic kids could play whatever they were playing in the grass (I was an introverted klutz so I don't really remember what they were doing, just that I wasn't). There were trees and some big rocks near the edges of the 'woods', but we weren't allowed to touch them. Literally, we got in trouble if we sat on the rocks. I remember getting in trouble for touching a stick once (seriously, if you picked up a one foot twig the monitors freaked out because it was a 'weapon').

The next year they had built a small playground where the pile of dirt had been, but it was more suited to preschool ages. Two foot plastic slides, no swings, handles to 'swing' across that were so low to the ground even the second graders were too tall for them. I remember sitting at the top of the twin slides with my friends. No one played on the playground. This was a 1-6 grade school and I'm not even sure if they second graders played with it.

It's something I never forgot (having moved from a school that had a HUGE playground with swings and jungle gyms and other great things) and it makes me sad to think playgrounds could get LESS fun for kids.

[Maggie Mae]

To piggyback off of FiddleDD's comment, I too switched from a school with a nice playground and play area at about the same age. At school 1, we had recess staggered so that little kids got to go out more often for shorter amounts of time and at different times. We had a large cemented area to jump ropes and a large field, along with tetherball and a playground with swings and monkey bars and just those other bars that we always swung upside down and flipped off of (cherry drops?). Older kids seemed to play kickball or softball or touch football, or basketball, or they just hung out on the swings and talked.

School #2 had a parking lot. Sometimes if we (the entire school collectively) were "good" we would all be marched in two lines to a nearby public park, where we would wander about in circles (no one above grade 3 was allowed on the playground) dodging dog poop and maybe (if no one had broken it/lost it) play some catch (again, hoping not to be the person who falls/steps into dog poo and smells up the classroom the rest of the day). The rules of the parking lot were thus: no horseplay (does anyone even know what that is?) no leaving the fenced in portion, no unapproved equipment. Since our school didn't have parking lot toys (would it have killed them to buy a jump rope?) people brought basketballs and jump ropes from home, which were confiscated as being too dangerous. It was horrible, and it was also the first time I smoked a cigarette, probably due to the fact that we were herded outside to stand around like prisoners.

[Rescinded and Mended]

I remember the monkey bars at my school when I was a kid. I used to love swinging from them. One day, I missed a bar and came down hard on my hands. The bone in my left wrist snapped...it was a pretty nasty break, I had to have my whole arm in a cast for 6 weeks. I just gritted my teeth and got through it. There was no talk of suing the school because we all understood that accidents just happen sometimes. The one thing I took away from it was that I needed to be more careful on the monkey bars from now on.

Although my wrist actually did sing Grand Opry for at least 5-6 years after that every time the weather was bad. Quite painful. Every time it was about to rain, my wrist knew about it before anyone else did, including the weatherman. ;)

[Mama Mia]

I think it very much is. I agree with others that not every change that happens as society moves on is bad but equally not every change is good. I'm not meaning the case in question which appears unusual and severe, not to mention shady considering the 'justice for' page and the 'raising funds' page. Maybe it's the litigious culture you mention more than helicopter parenting that's at fault in society today or a mix.

My child's school has been fundraising for the past year for play equipment for the playground. By the reasoning mentioned here maybe they should not bother as the first time a child slips, trips or falls they may face being sued by some litigious parent. Nobody wants their child to be hurt ever, but I also want my child to play and I also know that even when supervised in the playground accidents can happen. There has to be a balance.

Seriosly. I had a friend who ruptured her spleen and almost died on our school playground. It wasn't a perilous slide or nefarious swing that almost did her in. The " dangerous" activity she was involved in was running. She tripped and fell and landed the wrong way on a curb. That's it. Perhaps we should make sure they don't run either?

[OkToBeTakei]

Seriosly. I had a friend who ruptured her spleen and almost died on our school playground. It wasn't a perilous slide or nefarious swing that almost did her in. The " dangerous" activity she was involved in was running. She tripped and fell and landed the wrong way on a curb. That's it. Perhaps we should make sure they don't run either?

Bubble wrap. Suits made of it maybe even in the school colours. The parents can have matching tin foil hats :lol:

[nausicaa]

I remember the monkey bars at my school when I was a kid. I used to love swinging from them. One day, I missed a bar and came down hard on my hands. The bone in my left wrist snapped...it was a pretty nasty break, I had to have my whole arm in a cast for 6 weeks. I just gritted my teeth and got through it. There was no talk of suing the school because we all understood that accidents just happen sometimes. The one thing I took away from it was that I needed to be more careful on the monkey bars from now on.

Although my wrist actually did sing Grand Opry for at least 5-6 years after that every time the weather was bad. Quite painful. Every time it was about to rain, my wrist knew about it before anyone else did, including the weatherman. ;)

Yep, I totally remember sitting on top of one of the lower bars and then swinging back to "catch" myself upside down, only I was not really focused on it and was talking to a friend so I fell on the mulch below, directly on my elbow. It was a hairline break, but since it was in a joint I was in a cast for about two months.

My mother never even mentioned sueing the school. Actually, I don't remember her being mad at all or even that upset (and she isn't really a laid back person by nature), just more resigned to having to help bathe me and take me to doctor's appointments for the next few months. I think she just understood that she was the mom to a fairly active nine year old kid who always wanted to keep up with the older kids and that kids break things.

I'm also pretty sure I broke my hymen when I was in kindergarten by climbing on of those wide ladders made out of metal poles that went up to the monkey bars. I straddled the top bar to look out on the fields and both my feet slipped because the bars were still wet with morning dew and I went "bam" down onto the top bar. Hurt WAAY more than breaking my arm.

[Rescinded and Mended]

Yep, I totally remember sitting on top of one of the lower bars and then swinging back to "catch" myself upside down, only I was not really focused on it and was talking to a friend so I fell on the mulch below, directly on my elbow. It was a hairline break, but since it was in a joint I was in a cast for about two months.

My mother never even mentioned sueing the school. Actually, I don't remember her being mad at all or even that upset (and she isn't really a laid back person by nature), just more resigned to having to help bathe me and take me to doctor's appointments for the next few months. I think she just understood that she was the mom to a fairly active nine year old kid who always wanted to keep up with the older kids and that kids break things.

I'm also pretty sure I broke my hymen when I was in kindergarten by climbing on of those wide ladders made out of metal poles that went up to the monkey bars. I straddled the top bar to look out on the fields and both my feet slipped because the bars were still wet with morning dew and I went "bam" down onto the top bar. Hurt WAAY more than breaking my arm.

Ouch, nausicaa25, I definitely feel your pain. I can't even imagine what that would feel like, to break your hymen. That sounds a lot worse than my broken wrist. I'm sitting here crossing my legs just thinking about it. After my wrist broke, it didn't even hurt that much except on wet days.

I can remember hitting hard-packed dirt when I fell because for some reason, my school playground didn't have mulch to fall on. Probably would have been a much softer fall if it had.

I didn't have too much trouble taking baths since my mom just wrapped my cast in plastic, but what I remember hating was getting dressed. I attended private school and my mother always insisted I wear these ridiculous frou-frou dresses with long or fitted short sleeves. Some of these dresses even had the infamous Duggar Peter Pan collars, too. There was no dress code at the time, and most of the other kids just wore t-shirts with pants, shorts, or a skirt to school. But I guess my mom thought I should dress the part of a private school student. Anyway, because all my sleeves were tightly fitted, I could only get into maybe 4-5 of the 25 dresses or so that I owned. So I was basically wearing the same 5 dresses for the entire 6 weeks.

I was 9 at the time, too. I wish someone had thought to get me some t-shirts and pants. :doh:

It has also just occured to me that if anyone here had met me as a child, you all would have thought I was fundie. :shock: :lol: