Microchips, End Times, and Healthcare

[slh12280]

So my mother just came back from a revival meeting. She is a member of the Church of the Nazarene. Anyway, she called the preacher they had tonight "very strange." This was a gust preacher, not the usual every sunday one. Apparently he kept prattling on about how it was part of the healthcare law that everyone would need to get a microchip implanted into their skin in order to get healthcare. "Mark of the Beast" and all that. He was also going on about how scientists were going to create "super humans," which would be fused with animal genes or some such thing (remember I am getting this second hand and she wasn't even entirely sure what he was trying to say.) He also talked about angels having sex with humans. Also apparently demons had sex with people which is why people turned evil and the great flood happened. There was also something in there about scientists working on humans becoming immortal. Thankfully, the congregation gave him really weird looks and couldn't figure out what in the world he was talking about. Even the pastor of the church was not pleased by this man's ramblings. I kind of wish I was there, in a strange way. Wonder if he will be coming back?

Here are some articles pertaining to this if anyone is interested. Because, of course, I had to research into this craziness.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03796.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/microchip.asp (and of course Snopes has it covered!)

[thekate]

I hope he can get some good psychiatric care under Obamacare.

[crassy]

I, for one, welcome our cross-bred overlords.

[Hane]

I'm hoping that an angel shows up and asks to get busy with me. Should be an interesting experience.

[sippin0nsunshine]

If the angel looks like Gabriel or Castiel, I'm down. :D

[heidi]

I remember my mother reading something about all of this in the mid-90's (although, then the fear was the debit cards were somehow the Mark of the Beast?) She and my uncle got into some discussion about how scientists were going to combine humans and cows. Something bizarre like that. I assumed it was just a one-off thing, I can't believe people are still going around believing/preaching it.

[bananacat]

For people who claim to be biblical literalists, it is hypocritical that they ignore the part where the bible literally says that the mark is 666.

[mirele]

For people who claim to be biblical literalists, it is hypocritical that they ignore the part where the bible literally says that the mark is 666.

Or 616. (Seriously, see first paragraph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast )

I'm old enough to remember when bar codes were the mark of the beast and people I knew wouldn't shop at the supermarket which started using them, because it was all a part of the Antichrist. This was about the time either Henry Kissinger, Ted Kennedy or Anwar Sadat was the Antichrist-in-waiting.

[debrand]

I've had real life discussions with people who speculated that a microchip could be the Mark of the Beast. From their point of view, it makes a weird sort of sense. According to the bible, people will not be able to buy food without the mark and I've read that eventually our bank information will be contained on a tiny microchip embedded under the skin. I think that it will be great to just wave my hand under a machine and not worry about carrying my purse.

A lot of the fear that conservative Christians express toward socialism, science etc is based on their view of who the antiChrist will be. For those who have never delved into the insane world of end times believes....The antiChrist will be loved by all. He(not she) will not care for the ways of women(Daniel) but will trick the entire world into thinking that he is good. People will surrender their power to him because he offers them security and world peace. Good people will be tricked by him. Eventually he will give everyone a mark. Without the mark, no one can buy food or process commercial transactions.

The fear of socialism, I don't think, is based entirely on the fear of communism but instead on the fear that the Chrisitan will be tricked into following the antiChrist.

[slh12280]

I've had real life discussions with people who speculated that a microchip could be the Mark of the Beast. From their point of view, it makes a weird sort of sense. According to the bible, people will not be able to buy food without the mark and I've read that eventually our bank information will be contained on a tiny microchip embedded under the skin. I think that it will be great to just wave my hand under a machine and not worry about carrying my purse.

A lot of the fear that conservative Christians express toward socialism, science etc is based on their view of who the antiChrist will be. For those who have never delved into the insane world of end times believes....The antiChrist will be loved by all. He(not she) will not care for the ways of women(Daniel) but will trick the entire world into thinking that he is good. People will surrender their power to him because he offers them security and world peace. Good people will be tricked by him. Eventually he will give everyone a mark. Without the mark, no one can buy food or process commercial transactions.

The fear of socialism, I don't think, is based entirely on the fear of communism but instead on the fear that the Chrisitan will be tricked into following the antiChrist.

This is what I figured as well. It seems to me that the AntiChrist always seems to be a democrat though :lol: If you disagree with someone just say you disagree with their ideas rather than making weird accusations. I don't know if I am sold on this end times stuff, although my mother is completely sold. Kind of reads like a science fiction novel to me. Maybe I figure out what I believe about this one of these days.

[ilovetchotchkes]

I've had real life discussions with people who speculated that a microchip could be the Mark of the Beast. From their point of view, it makes a weird sort of sense. According to the bible, people will not be able to buy food without the mark and I've read that eventually our bank information will be contained on a tiny microchip embedded under the skin. I think that it will be great to just wave my hand under a machine and not worry about carrying my purse.

A lot of the fear that conservative Christians express toward socialism, science etc is based on their view of who the antiChrist will be. For those who have never delved into the insane world of end times believes....The antiChrist will be loved by all. He(not she) will not care for the ways of women(Daniel) but will trick the entire world into thinking that he is good. People will surrender their power to him because he offers them security and world peace. Good people will be tricked by him. Eventually he will give everyone a mark. Without the mark, no one can buy food or process commercial transactions.

The fear of socialism, I don't think, is based entirely on the fear of communism but instead on the fear that the Chrisitan will be tricked into following the antiChrist.

See I'm not a conservative Christian and the whole micro chip thing freaks me the hell out for some reason. Ive seen iPhone ape where you can pay, and that I'm fine with but on my body? Yeeeeeeeeegh!

[slh12280]

See I'm not a conservative Christian and the whole micro chip thing freaks me the hell out for some reason. Ive seen iPhone ape where you can pay, and that I'm fine with but on my body? Yeeeeeeeeegh!

I absolutely agree with you! I think it is freaky for completely non religious reasons!

[Guest Anonymous]

The microchips don't sound great to me either.

Someone or some corporation being able to track me everywhere? No thanks! We already see what they can do with an IP address and a bit of cookie logging, just imagine what they could do with a microchip implanted inside of us.

[BlackHawk]

The microchips don't sound great to me either.

Someone or some corporation being able to track me everywhere? No thanks! We already see what they can do with an IP address and a bit of cookie logging, just imagine what they could do with a microchip implanted inside of us.

Do you carry a cell phone? If so, you can be tracked every where you go. Your information is already being stored by your cell phone... so really think about it.

[snarkbillie]

Having a microchip in my hand that is tied to all my financial stuff makes me think we'll have muggers with machetes hacking off hands. Easiest robbery ever.

*I should probably stop watching certain TV shows before bed.

[PennySycamore]

I remember my mother reading something about all of this in the mid-90's (although, then the fear was the debit cards were somehow the Mark of the Beast?) She and my uncle got into some discussion about how scientists were going to combine humans and cows. Something bizarre like that. I assumed it was just a one-off thing, I can't believe people are still going around believing/preaching it.

There has been some attempt, with bioengineering, to breed cows that give milk with human proteins. Human females can already give milk with human proteins and more stuff that's species specific. I haven't heard any updates about this attempt in years.

[debrand]

I don't think that we will ever be required to have microchips implanted under our skin. LOL However, I think that the chip would stop working if the owner's body temperature went down. Or that, at least, should be an added safety precaution.

[Maggie Mae]

I don't think that we will ever be required to have microchips implanted under our skin. LOL However, I think that the chip would stop working if the owner's body temperature went down. Or that, at least, should be an added safety precaution.

I like this idea. But how weird is it that my first thought it "What if I have/am near hypothermia? I know I have stumbled into places after a long hike/ski trip and been freezing (body heats up, sweat cools down, get to truck, get out of truck and since we've stopped moving for so long I am shivering and making no sense as I stumble towards the pizzeria) and someone is like "NO HOT CHOCOLATE UNTIL YOU PAY" and then I die. I know, highly unlikely, and really how close to death does someone need to be for a measurable change in body premature, right?

I don't want to have the government embed me with a chip, because I don't want the government to have the ability to force surgery on my body.

My parents think that social security numbers are too close to the mark of the beast as it is. I can't imagine that they would be on board with that, wherever they are.

[Lemonbalm]

Well then...

I think the angels having sex with humans comes from the whole Nephilim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim) theory about giant cross bred people. One "theory" of the "theory" of the Nephilim is that they came from demons/angels having sex with humans. It is a common thought it more revival/pentecostal denominations.

[snarkbillie]

I don't think that we will ever be required to have microchips implanted under our skin. LOL However, I think that the chip would stop working if the owner's body temperature went down. Or that, at least, should be an added safety precaution.

My :naughty: Raynaud's will keep me from buying cookies. No fair. LOL

[grovelina]

A lot of the fear that conservative Christians express toward socialism, science etc is based on their view of who the antiChrist will be. For those who have never delved into the insane world of end times believes....The antiChrist will be loved by all. He(not she) will not care for the ways of women(Daniel) but will trick the entire world into thinking that he is good. People will surrender their power to him because he offers them security and world peace. Good people will be tricked by him. Eventually he will give everyone a mark. Without the mark, no one can buy food or process commercial transactions.

The fear of socialism, I don't think, is based entirely on the fear of communism but instead on the fear that the Chrisitan will be tricked into following the antiChrist.

Isn't that what Jesus is supposed to provide? How are we supposed to tell the antichrist from the second coming? How is world peace bad exactly? Sorry, I am very confused by end times theology.

[Cannelle]

He was also going on about how scientists were going to create "super humans," which would be fused with animal genes or some such thing

As the wife of a scientist, I'd just like to point out that it's hard enough (and sometimes impossible) to get funding for REAL diseases and whatnot, so...yeah. Although I for one wouldn't mind some sort of animal genes if it would mean less back pain. :whistle:

[Guest Anonymous]

I really think that people like this have severe mental issues Since they look for others with the same issues to reproduce with, they're genetically passing on the likelihood of issues. It's like they're picking partners with the same imbalances characteristics and are making a sort of different line of humans. I wish I could make this make sense. I've been up over 30 hours.

[slh12280]

Isn't that what Jesus is supposed to provide? How are we supposed to tell the antichrist from the second coming? How is world peace bad exactly? Sorry, I am very confused by end times theology.

I am confused by it too despite the fact that I grew up with this stuff. Guess it scared me and I didn't retain much of it. Man, the Baptists would be so disappointed in my lack of ability to explain this. Anyway, here is a link that might make sense, as I am no good at explaining these things: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_eschatology (yay wikipedia!)

[PennySycamore]

My cat is microchipped. He got his microchip when he was neutered. So, for that matter, is my shih tzu who got hers when she was spayed. I do need to change the shih tzu's records as her listing is still in my mom's name.

My husband is into some of that end times craziness. I think that's why he doesn't believe in global warming -it doesn't jive with his eschatology. Also FAUX Noise doesn't believe in it. I'd better not remind him the cat is chipped. He'll blame the cat's sleeping on the table on him being a pawn of Satan.