NH Sheriff Candidate: It's OK To Kill Abortion Doctors

[Visionoyahweh]

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.c ... ?ref=fpblg

In an interview on Wednesday with local television station WMUR, Szabo said he believed sheriffs were granted special powers under the Constitution. That means, he said, he would be empowered to arrest or even use deadly force against doctors for providing legal abortions for women.

“I would hope that it wouldn’t come to that, as with any situation where someone was in danger,†Szabo said. “But again, specifically talking about elective abortions and late term abortions, that is an act that needs to be stopped.â€

He clarified it did not apply to cases in which the mother’s life was in danger. “That’s a medical decision. That’s out of the area I’m talking about,†he said.

It’s not clear what kind of chance Szabo has at winning the race. He claims endorsements from Jack Kimball, the former chairman of the state Republican Party, as well as multiple tea party groups. But WMUR reported that the state’s House speaker was already calling for Szabo to drop out of the race after his comments surfaced.

[thekate]

Oh dear god. That's my county.

[Burris]

Oh dear god. That's my county.

And if they vote for this guy, the majority in your county will get the government they deserve. Unfortunately, that means you will also get the government they deserve.

[darkplumaged]

Are more crazies than usual crawling out of the woodwork this year, or are they just getting more publicity than usual?

[Anxious Girl]

So... To be pro-life, you have to be pro-death for "criminals", such as abortionists? I thought all life was sacred to pro-lifers. * is confused :| *

[thekate]

And if they vote for this guy, the majority in your county will get the government they deserve. Unfortunately, that means you will also get the government they deserve.

They already do. My town was the one that banned Shakespeare in the schools for "promoting homosexuality" and elected Nancy Eliot to the state house. She loved to give graphic descriptions of anal sex when debating bills. Thankfully she retired 2 years ago.

We're moving, but because it's military-related I could keep my NH voting rights. I haven't decided yet if it's worth it.

[JesusFightClub]

Um, where's the homosexuality in Shakespeare? :?: :?: :?: :?:

Also, wouldn't this law require a non-medical professional knowing nothing about the medical background to a case to make a split second decision on whether an act of murder was being carried out or not? How would that work?

[lovefromgirl]

We're moving, but because it's military-related I could keep my NH voting rights. I haven't decided yet if it's worth it.

Where are you going? Will you have the option to relinquish said rights later if you please?

[Artemis]

Shakespeare is often claimed to have been bisexual based on his sonnets to 'W H'

Sonnet 20 refers:

A woman's face with Nature's own hand painted

Hast thou, the master-mistress of my passion;

A woman's gentle heart, but not acquainted

With shifting change, as is false women's fashion;

An eye more bright than theirs, less false in rolling,

Gilding the object whereupon it gazeth;

A man in hue, all 'hues' in his controlling,

Much steals men's eyes and women's souls amazeth.

And for a woman wert thou first created;

Till Nature, as she wrought thee, fell a-doting,

And by addition me of thee defeated,

By adding one thing to my purpose nothing.

But since she prick'd thee out for women's pleasure,

Mine be thy love and thy love's use their treasure.

Several other sonnets detail his love for both his 'dark mistress' and a fair young man.

Highly suspect if you're a fundy . . .

Oh, and this?

Also, wouldn't this law require a non-medical professional knowing nothing about the medical background to a case to make a split second decision on whether an act of murder was being carried out or not? How would that work?

You don't need to have a medical qualification, silly - you just have to know that God is telling you that that particular doctor is an evil baby killing atheist . . . .

[Minerva]

So he's basically saying that, if elected, he'll shoot up an abortion clinic? Or only that he would shoot one up should it be built in his county? That would land him in prison whether or not he's a sheriff and regardless of his interpretation of the constitution. If the outcome of murdering an OB/GYN is the same regardless of his job, why would he only do it if he were sheriff? Because in his interpretation of the constitution, only sheriffs can use lethal force to defend "innocents"? I find that hard to believe. I think he's just saying it to look tough and hasn't thought the implications of his statements through.

So I think he's harmless, but I'd like to see him learn the hard way that making thinly veiled death threats gets you in trouble. People like him are dicks because a) they make abortion providers and their families and friends fear for their lives needlessly and b) they unwittingly egg on people who actually are capable of murdering an abortion provider.

Surely sheriffs don't get to do their job based on their interpretation of the constitution, anyway. Surely actual laws come first, right?

Also, wouldn't this law require a non-medical professional knowing nothing about the medical background to a case to make a split second decision on whether an act of murder was being carried out or not? How would that work?

Also supports my point that the man is just blathering without meaning it. He hasn't thought it through. I think the interviewer just asked him a question he wasn't prepared for but happened to have extremist views about, and he said something stupid in the heat of the moment.

[thekate]

Um, where's the homosexuality in Shakespeare? :?: :?: :?: :?:

As You Like It. Because disguise = transvestite = gay.

[thekate]

Where are you going? Will you have the option to relinquish said rights later if you please?

Virginia, so it's not much better. I could switch to VA at any time, but I couldn't switch back unless we moved to NH again.

[Visionoyahweh]

Um, where's the homosexuality in Shakespeare? :?: :?: :?: :?:

I keep wanting to see this one. Romeo and Juliet, set in a military academy, between two males. Just what William would have wanted!

[Samantha]

I don't know what I'm more sickened by. On the one hand we have nutters like Szabo and Akin saying totally off the wall shit that they firmly believe to be the truth. On the other hand we have the Republican party telling those nutters to STFU, not because they believe what these people are saying is wrong. No they're telling them to be quiet because they don't want the electability of their party to be hurt. I can't tell whose more disgusting, and that's a major problem.

And to make things even better, there's an article on Huffington Post about him recanting his statements. This is the article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/2 ... 24743.html

Here are some gems from that:

A Republican candidate in New Hampshire backed down on Thursday from a suggestion he would use "deadly force" to stop doctors from performing abortions, saying he "let his imagination get out of control."

Who's to say that his imagination will be in control if he gets elected?

Szabo, a resident of Goffstown, has made it clear in earlier campaign releases that he "decidedly" does not have law enforcement or legal experience. In the past he owned and operated a limousine service.

Maybe I'm weird, but I'd hope that someone running for the office of Sheriff would have some sort of understanding of law enforcement.

[lilwriter85]

I don't know what I'm more sickened by. On the one hand we have nutters like Szabo and Akin saying totally off the wall shit that they firmly believe to be the truth. On the other hand we have the Republican party telling those nutters to STFU, not because they believe what these people are saying is wrong. No they're telling them to be quiet because they don't want the electability of their party to be hurt. I can't tell whose more disgusting, and that's a major problem.

And to make things even better, there's an article on Huffington Post about him recanting his statements. This is the article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/2 ... 24743.html

Here are some gems from that:

Who's to say that his imagination will be in control if he gets elected?

Maybe I'm weird, but I'd hope that someone running for the office of Sheriff would have some sort of understanding of law enforcement.

You're not weird. I think most people would want their Sheriff to be someone with law enforcement experience. Hopefully, people in that county will partially take Szabo's lack of LE experience into consideration when voting. This guy is crazy and I know pro-lifers that would find him to be extreme.

[JesusFightClub]

Oh My God. The stupidity is worse than I thought. :doh:

I highly doubt that kids would be doing the sonnets. And it's a long long time since I studied it at school, but my impression was that As You Like It's plot revolved around....heterosexuality.

(Incidentally, that film sounds great. And many moons ago when I was a schoolkid me and my pals had a game where we made up porn titles for Shakespeare plays. We had A Midsummer Night's Cream, Corihole-Anus, King Queer, Measure for Your Pleasure and my contribution, which was As You Lick It. What can I say? We were 14...)

Who would want a sheriff whose imagination instantly leaps to shooting people? That doesn't sound safe to me... :shock:

[Minerva]

I don't know what I'm more sickened by. On the one hand we have nutters like Szabo and Akin saying totally off the wall shit that they firmly believe to be the truth. On the other hand we have the Republican party telling those nutters to STFU, not because they believe what these people are saying is wrong. No they're telling them to be quiet because they don't want the electability of their party to be hurt. I can't tell whose more disgusting, and that's a major problem.

And to make things even better, there's an article on Huffington Post about him recanting his statements. This is the article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/2 ... 24743.html

Here are some gems from that:

Who's to say that his imagination will be in control if he gets elected?

Maybe I'm weird, but I'd hope that someone running for the office of Sheriff would have some sort of understanding of law enforcement.

And yet another one keeps on digging. Telling the public you fantasize about going vigilante and killing your fellow citizens is totally going to make them want you as their sheriff.

And how the fuck can someone just jump into law enforcement with zero training? Sheriffs are basically cops, no? Here in Canada you go to college for that shit. I've got all kinds of opinions about the police, and I might see the general public electing Canadian police chiefs as a step in the right direction (assuming it didn't turn into a political pissing match where being the right degree of polarized matters more than whether you can actually do the job - it's bad enough so many other elections end up hanging on a single issue), but I can't believe this guy's eligible with zero training.

ETA clarity

[doggie]

Why is he not wanting to kill the woman who want abortions? I mean they are the ones making the choice to kill their babies. Of course that would sound too bad so I guess he can't say that. This wet fart should be run out of town after being beaten with a bible.

[Hane]

How exactly is this jamoke going to find all those sluts who are nipping out for a late-term abortion just for $#!+s and giggles, so he can tail them to the doctor's office?

I think this jerk is one of those Limbaugh-lovers who assumes that practically everyone shares his sensible, conservative right-wing nut job views, so he spouts off, expecting a standing ovation, and then is shocked when he's called on his douchebaggery.

ETA that the office of sheriff varies widely from state in the USA. In some states, like mine, it's a more administrative and less law-enforcing post.

[Arete]

Why is he not wanting to kill the woman who want abortions?

Please let's not give the crays any more ideas.

[fakepigtails73]

A Sheriff with 0 law enforcement experience?? WTF?

Am I the only one who finds it weird that in some states sheriffs and district attorneys are elected? Makes them politicians instead of enforcers of the law and the justice system... Very odd, imho.

[Visionoyahweh]

Why is he not wanting to kill the woman who want abortions?

So they can be correctively raped into embracing motherhood. :( He's only a fantasy or two away from not prosecuting rape.

[deelaem]

Are more crazies than usual crawling out of the woodwork this year, or are they just getting more publicity than usual?

They've always been there, but their views are becoming normalized from all the racist anti-Obama backlash in the last four years. This is the kind of shit they and their buddies say to each other all the time, where it's met with an approving slap on the back. When you only hang around other like-minded goons who co-sign your bullshit for you, you forget to keep your mouth shut when you have to speak to the outside world. You've then committed the faux pas of telling the hippie liberals what you really want to do, so your buddies turn on you. In public, anyway. In private they're still slapping you on the back.

[Minerva]

ETA that the office of sheriff varies widely from state in the USA. In some states, like mine, it's a more administrative and less law-enforcing post.

I hope it's the case wherever this asshole is running. I've seen people run for municipal positions who proved to be completely uninformed about most issues come debate time, including the "mainstream" candidates. I don't think running for public office should be made inaccessible on the basis of education or anything like that, but something's wrong if we're letting the same small group of slackers run every year and no one's complaining.

[thoughtful]

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/frank_szabo_deadly_force_abortions.php?ref=fpblg

Nothing quite as fucked up as someone who expects to break the law if elected sherriff. :shock:

Oh, and for JFC, Cole Porter also had a dirty mind about -- well, everything -- but specifically about the title Coriolanus:

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The rhyme in question is at 1:55, but the whole thing is worth watching.

Caveat -- the lyrics are sexist, especially by today's standards, but these are not exactly characters to emulate or admire (and I think Porter was just playing with rhymes).