Botkinettes are plugging their next literary opus

[Marian the Librarian]

“Jane Austen and Vampires: Examining Girls’ Literary Appetites and Literary Eating Disorders.†In which they "lay out the basics of a healthy literary diet." And conclude that "girls’ natural literary tastes cannot always be trusted."

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[SamuraiKatz]

“Jane Austen and Vampires: Examining Girls’ Literary Appetites and Literary Eating Disorders.†In which they "lay out the basics of a healthy literary diet." And conclude that "girls’ natural literary tastes cannot always be trusted."

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Umm....how would they know what a girl's natural literary taste is? As part of the "Holy Anointed Ones" how would they know about such worldly and carnal things?

Inquiring minds want to know! ;)

[FJismyheadship]

Ok Botkins. I fully expect you to read Judy Blume, the entire Sweet Valley and BSC series, Harry Potter, the Eragon series (Inheritence cycle, right?) THEN we'll throw in Little Women, To Kill A Mockingbird, and finally, you take me with you to the bookstore to pick out some books in the "teen" section that I read both as a kid, a teen, and even now. Cause I dont remember the titles of them all.

Oh... wait... I just looked at my list. Do girls that are only five to ten years younger than me even read any of this stuff? Was I a wierd child?

[ceg045]

Clearly every girl has the same literary taste. And, really, who cares, when all other aspects of a girl's personality run a distant second in importance to the fecundity of her womb?

[Antigone]

no you were not. Try Edgar Allan Poe at 6. now THAT is probably weird ;) and probably explains my mild claustrophobia whenever I am in the dark... I had a love/hate relationship with "the cask of amontillado". Brrr. :(

And don't forget the American Girl books. My friends and I devoured those books when we were between 7 and 10 years old (ssh, I still read them! I'm collecting them for Sevy).

and yes, kids have distinct personalities, but I don't think the Botkin girls would really cover that well if they are just focusing on Jane Austen and Twilight, which it sounds like they are just from the title. There is more to modern literature than Twilight, thank you, misses Botkin... :snooty:

[GeoBQn]

I was certainly corrupted by the Clan of the Cave Bear and its sequels. I also corrupted all the 6th grade girls when I let everyone read choice passages from Valley of the Horses.

[MamaJunebug]

I remember The Handmaid's Tale being the book we loved to read and feel terrified by. But by then I probably was in my early 20s? Too old???

[marmalade]

Don't forget Flowers in the Attic. It's probably most apropos to all these shut up SAHD/Ss...together all the time...under the same roof...all that isolation......

As for Austen, I just completed a thesis in which I illustrated that while conservative, Austen did not entirely agree with the authors of the "conduct books" of the day (Hannah More, et al.). As a realist, Austen was more concerned in personal growth than false shows of faith for show.

But I doubt the Botkinettes have access to the books from which I gleaned my research data, so I doubt they have very strong arguments about why Austen is such a scourge to society.

[GeoBQn]

They are giving away a copy. To enter, you have to send them the names of three books you want to read this year. I will go with The Man in the High Castle, Soft Apocalypse, and Make Room Make Room (the book that Soylent Green is based on, about the dangers of overpopulation).

The title of their book is very odd. Maybe they are trying to shoehorn it into the Food Conference?

[Bookworm89]

Ok Botkins. I fully expect you to read Judy Blume, the entire Sweet Valley and BSC series, Harry Potter, the Eragon series (Inheritence cycle, right?) THEN we'll throw in Little Women, To Kill A Mockingbird, and finally, you take me with you to the bookstore to pick out some books in the "teen" section that I read both as a kid, a teen, and even now. Cause I dont remember the titles of them all.

Oh... wait... I just looked at my list. Do girls that are only five to ten years younger than me even read any of this stuff? Was I a wierd child?

Nope not weird, because that would also make me weird. :)

I'd probable add some books I read as a kid, saddle club, Bailey school kids, the tree house, 1984, fahrenheit 451, and many more.

[FJismyheadship]

Saddle Club! I forgot about that one!

Junie B Jones would be a good one too hahahaha. I would love to see how they would react to reading that hahaha.

Nancy Drew! The old ones, not the ones they made that came all paperback and modern and crap. Those were all right but I always preferred good old hardbacked Nancy... How many of those books were there? Anyone remember?

And Trixie Belden! Hey Botkins, read some Trixie Belden please!!! (Although they probably wouldnt like her because she corrupted a fragile flower of a girl, did a ton of things without her parents permission, and then went on cross country adventures with only her best friend and BFF's nanny.)

[CanadianHippie]

They'll need to read Nancy Garden books (or at least Annie on my Mind) too. I loved her books in high school, and still do. And can't forget about Tamora Pierce either, see hoe they do faced with women who run their own lives.

[Rachel333]

Is this another "sexy books are like porn for girls" thing?

Also, the "literary eating disorders" part of the title is really pissing me off.

[fundiefan]

I can't picture my tastes, at any point in my life, having any place in a Botkin imagination regarding girls and reading. By the time I was 20, I read pretty much all the books you all have already mentioned, not to mention a butt load of other books - most not exactly meant for young girls. I also can't picture them being able to comprehend the point and meaning in the books they mention, much less any others.

This is what happens when you're in your twenties and have no life of your own. You imagine a life, and in their case, they imagine they have intelligence, comprehension and understanding and then they take that imagine further and pretend to know enough to write a book for others, based on their imaginations.

I thought imagination was a bad thing for fundie SAHDs?

[FundiesInMyFamily]

I was sooo defrauded by the Outsiders, all those bad boys. I read it so many times I wore out the paperback book, then my sister & I went to see the movie at least a dozen times.

[zoestercoaster]

“Jane Austen and Vampires: Examining Girls’ Literary Appetites and Literary Eating Disorders.†In which they "lay out the basics of a healthy literary diet." And conclude that "girls’ natural literary tastes cannot always be trusted."

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At the release party, there will be a good old fashioned book burning! Bring all your non-Botkin approved literature for a night of wholesome Christian fun!

Suggestions include Darwin's Origin of Species, Twilight, the Catholic bible ( or any non protestant, non KJV, non Christian religious texts),Pride andPrejudice and Zombies, books written by minorities... the list is practically endless!

Warm your hands and soul by the glow of godless texts being sent to where they belong: hell!

[PBrooke]

Saddle Club! I forgot about that one!

Junie B Jones would be a good one too hahahaha. I would love to see how they would react to reading that hahaha.

Nancy Drew! The old ones, not the ones they made that came all paperback and modern and crap. Those were all right but I always preferred good old hardbacked Nancy... How many of those books were there? Anyone remember?

And Trixie Belden! Hey Botkins, read some Trixie Belden please!!! (Although they probably wouldnt like her because she corrupted a fragile flower of a girl, did a ton of things without her parents permission, and then went on cross country adventures with only her best friend and BFF's nanny.)

56 in the hardback series, I believe. My avatar comes from The Mystery at Lilac Inn. :ugeek:

[JesusFightClub]

I do not know what they would make of me. I have had an interest in terrorism and political violence as a phenomenon since my youth and have read a hell of a lot of fiction and nonfiction on it. Not particularly defrauding ;) well unless you have strange inclinations indeed, but I doubt it's Botkin approved material.

[i have photos of the aftermath of the first ever "carbombing" ( involving a horse and cart) up on my wall. I freely admit to being a weirdo.]

Which raises the question - what if a good SAHD develops an unusual interest? Maybe one day she decides geology is fascinating, or Arthurian legends, or reads Jane Austen not for the OMGROMANCE but because she is interested in linguistics and the speech of the period and the culture as portrayed in the books? Is it wrong or ungodly then?

[gardenvarietycitizen]

I was certainly corrupted by the Clan of the Cave Bear and its sequels. I also corrupted all the 6th grade girls when I let everyone read choice passages from Valley of the Horses.

Ha. I found "Clan of the Cave Bear" in college, left at one of those "leave a book, take a book" places. Book 1 was pretty interesting, didn't care for the others quite as much once the main character became totally SuperWoman Who Invented Everything, but yeah, the defrauding passages were DEFINITELY in there, particularly starting in Book 2... even just all that lusting and "I'm making the signal but you ignore meeeeee..." stuff in the beginning. "Pants! What a thing! They show the manly bulge!" When you want to read some smut, they are a reliable source! :P

[gardenvarietycitizen]

I do not know what they would make of me. I have had an interest in terrorism and political violence as a phenomenon since my youth and have read a hell of a lot of fiction and nonfiction on it. Not particularly defrauding ;) well unless you have strange inclinations indeed, but I doubt it's Botkin approved material.

[i have photos of the aftermath of the first ever "carbombing" ( involving a horse and cart) up on my wall. I freely admit to being a weirdo.]

Which raises the question - what if a good SAHD develops an unusual interest? Maybe one day she decides geology is fascinating, or Arthurian legends, or reads Jane Austen not for the OMGROMANCE but because she is interested in linguistics and the speech of the period and the culture as portrayed in the books? Is it wrong or ungodly then?

I have to admit my fiction reading tends to the military or police thrillers, with the more corruption and twists the better. I like mysteries too, and books where some surreal science fiction type scenario has a good bloody mystery in it. Not much romance, and I like it that way. I never liked girls' comics either.

I share your wonder about the unusual interests thing. I've been allowed completely free reading my entire life, and so as a kid would scour the library for books about whatever odd thing I became obsessed with. As you can imagine, google has been a wonderful thing. Want to read about some disease you heard about on the news? Go for it, five hours later, hm, maybe it's time to go to bed now...

Yesterday thinking about the Maxwells it reminded me again, the restriction on reading would probably be the one thing I just could not deal with. To not be able to to wonder "why" about some pattern you suddenly notice in the world and go digging?

But I suppose perhaps they've had it completely socialized out of them, or never saw any non-Bible books so just never know what they're missing? Horrible.

[valsa]

I read The Happy Hooker when I was nine (the detailed biography (autobiography?) of a hooker/madame) Around the same time I was reading Clan of the Cave Bear, Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality series, V.C. Andrews, Anne Rice, Animorphs, and pretty much all of R.L. Stine and Christopher Pike's (both big horror names at the time) YA books. When I was 13, I started reading hardcore man-on-man gay fanfiction and never looked back.

Go ahead, Botkinettes. Examine that.

[genericJname]

At the release party, there will be a good old fashioned book burning! Bring all your non-Botkin approved literature for a night of wholesome Christian fun!

Suggestions include Darwin's Origin of Species, Twilight, the Catholic bible ( or any non protestant, non KJV, non Christian religious texts),Pride andPrejudice and Zombies, books written by minorities... the list is practically endless!

Oh, I have a few New American Standard copies to share. I think all that gender neutral language has given the devil a foothold in my home.

[StacyW]

I used to be a big fan of true crime books, and I read an interview with Ann Rule (who wrote about Ted Bundy among other famous criminals) where she said that a lot of her readers were young mothers, and when they would meet her they would ask her if something was wrong with them that they were so interested in this stuff. As I got older my interests evolved away from the gory stuff and towards "cozy" mysteries.

[bubbabearzle]

They probably would not appreciate the fact that I read Stephen King's "It" when I was only 10 or that I read the Flowers in the Attic series by 13 :lol:

[desertvixen]

Ok Botkins. I fully expect you to read Judy Blume, the entire Sweet Valley and BSC series, Harry Potter, the Eragon series (Inheritence cycle, right?) THEN we'll throw in Little Women, To Kill A Mockingbird

I could skip Eragon, but all the others. Bonus points if you get the older copy of Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret for the sanitary belt conversation that confused a lot of us.

Oh... wait... I just looked at my list. Do girls that are only five to ten years younger than me even read any of this stuff? Was I a wierd child?

I don't think so, but you talk to the person who has bookshelves full of her YA collections - I love the YA series books, old and new.

And don't forget the American Girl books. My friends and I devoured those books when we were between 7 and 10 years old (ssh, I still read them! I'm collecting them for Sevy).

There's no shame - see above sentence, and I don't even claim that I am collecting them for my daughter. Mine mine all mine.

Nancy Drew! The old ones, not the ones they made that came all paperback and modern and crap. Those were all right but I always preferred good old hardbacked Nancy... How many of those books were there? Anyone remember?

Don't forget to throw in some of the un-updated originals too - the Applewood press collections are pretty good, if pricey. Penny Parker is another good one, available on Kindle. Actually, introducing them to some of the old series might be useful - stuff like Ruth Fielding and Marjorie Dean, if for no other reason than to show that women wanting more accomplishments in their life is not some new-fangled feminist invention.

And Trixie Belden! Hey Botkins, read some Trixie Belden please!!! (Although they probably wouldnt like her because she corrupted a fragile flower of a girl, did a ton of things without her parents permission, and then went on cross country adventures with only her best friend and BFF's nanny.)

This too - maybe some Judy Bolton, Cherry Ames.

I used to be a big fan of true crime books, and I read an interview with Ann Rule (who wrote about Ted Bundy among other famous criminals) where she said that a lot of her readers were young mothers, and when they would meet her they would ask her if something was wrong with them that they were so interested in this stuff. As I got older my interests evolved away from the gory stuff and towards "cozy" mysteries.

I had to stop reading a lot of the true crime after I had MV, just because parental paranoia didn't need any help. I do still enjoy some of it, though. Reminds me also that the person who borrowed my copy of Small Sacrifices never returned it...

Don't forget Laura Ingalls either!