Jaynee Lockwood

[Guest Anonymous]

I don't know how she manages to keep her sanity. Her family has been on the road now for 3 months, traveling in a van. Her latest blog mentioned that the kids have all been sick with stomach bugs recently (she said this is the 4th or 5th time since they have been on the road) yet she manages to keep such a great attitude. I have to admit she is one of the fundies that doesn't really bug me that much.

[WonderingInWA]

She doesn't bug me much, either. She's got a lot on her plate with 12 kids. Her husband has posted here at times so we know he reads here. I don't know how she does it -- the photos of her kids always appear that they are happy, smiling, and CLEAN (how do they keep all those kids clean?). But I do know they spank so obviously are punitive in their parenting, which is something I personally do not condone. They also posted something awhile back (a year or two ago) that they were going to kill some goats for dinner and that just made me sick. Feed your kids on beans and rice in the impoverished country that you live in. Don't kill goats.

[Guest Anonymous]

The kids do seem really happy and I think the little boys are adorable. Looks like they are heading back to Mexico soon. I didn't know they spanked and that makes me like them a little less now but I do appreciate Jaynee's cheerful attitude. I can't be easy traveling with all those kids and not want to pull your hair out.

Someone told me that the reason they were traveling the country was to collect funds. Funds for what? Their church? Themselves?

[Miss M]

They also posted something awhile back (a year or two ago) that they were going to kill some goats for dinner and that just made me sick. Feed your kids on beans and rice in the impoverished country that you live in. Don't kill goats.

Was this taking away from the village's food supply, if so then I agree with you. But it the goats are raised for meat, and hundreds are in the US and other counties then that is what they are for...eating!

[Witsec7]

I always find it terribly sad when one of these women blames her own lack of submission for a bad attitude. Its as if no one considers traveling around the country begging for money and caring for 12 kids could perhaps be the cause of some of her unhappiness. Nope 12 kids puking and crapping in a van/bus for hundreds of miles can't be a walk in the park. Perhaps its time that the (dick)headship decided to road trip on his own, but that would probably cut into the revenue stream and this way at least the kids are getting out and seeing the world a bit.

[Guest Anonymous]

I'm glad the kids are getting out and seeing the world too. But who really knows how much they are seeing. Looks like they spent a lot of time visiting friends houses and churches.

[Guest Anonymous]

There is so much for which to be thankful! I complain, I whine, I get discouraged, and get angry. And Daniel will try to encourage me and let me know that quite frankly, my attitude stinks! And of course, I KNOW that I am right! I feel that what he is saying isn’t fair or true. And I continue to be “right†and miserable!

And then the Lord usually brings His Word to my mind. “Humble thyself in the sight of the Lord.†“Every way of man is right in his own eyes, but the Lord weighs the heart.†And once I admit that I am wrong and humble myself, confess my sin, repent, and get my heart right, I then see how very wrong I was and I’m so happy!! :) Funny how that works, huh? The Lord’s ways are so pure and true .

Her husband seems to do a lot of 'encouraging' her to confess her 'sins'. I wouldn't be surprised if she is writing this down to try to convince herself it is true. The writing style reminds me a bit of Molly Aley who used to write about her husband in a similar way, until it turned out he had been abusing her for years.

They sound as screwed up as any of the other fundie families and I pity the kids, living in a van and having to put on happy attitudes when all is far from well. :x

[Guest Anonymous]

What's wrong with being discouraged and angry sometimes? Given her circumstances, it's normal! Like I said, I don't know how she does it.

[keen23]

Goat is really good eating! We can get goat meat tacos in Mexican restaurants here in Arizona.

[Kelya]

What's wrong with being discouraged and angry sometimes? Given her circumstances, it's normal! Like I said, I don't know how she does it.

She doesn't. She posts all this happy and cheerful drivel because she has been trained, by her husband and her religion, to treat any expression of any emotion less than "I AM SO BLESSED" to be sinful and from the devil. If I had to choose between being considered sinful and all the shit that comes from that, or sounding like I took a few too many amphetamines, I'd choose the latter too.

Is this the one that husband keeps knocking her up despite extreme health issues?

[Guest Anonymous]

And, yeah, their hateful beliefs are clear on their ministry website:

Concerning Morality we believe: That there should be no sexual activity outside of marriage between one man and one woman. Any form of homosexuality, lesbianism, bestiality, incest, adultery, pornography, or other types of fornication, is a sinful perversion of God’s gift of sex (Genesis 2:24; 19:5,13; 26:8-9; Leviticus 18:1-20; Romans 1:26-29; I Corinthians 5:1; 6:9; I Thessalonians 4:1-8; Hebrews 13:4). That human life begins at conception, and therefore, any type of abortion, regardless of reason, is murder (Job 3:16; Psalm 51:5; 139:14-16; Isaiah 44:24; 49:1, 5; Luke 1:44). That God intends a marriage to last a lifetime (Matthew 19:3-12; Romans 7:1-3; I Timothy 3:2), and that all sin, when confessed, is forgiven (I John 1:8-9).

[Witsec7]

There is so much for which to be thankful! I complain, I whine, I get discouraged, and get angry. And Daniel will try to encourage me and let me know that quite frankly, my attitude stinks! And of course, I KNOW that I am right! I feel that what he is saying isn’t fair or true. And I continue to be “right†and miserable!

And then the Lord usually brings His Word to my mind. “Humble thyself in the sight of the Lord.†“Every way of man is right in his own eyes, but the Lord weighs the heart.†And once I admit that I am wrong and humble myself, confess my sin, repent, and get my heart right, I then see how very wrong I was and I’m so happy!! :) Funny how that works, huh? The Lord’s ways are so pure and true .

Her husband seems to do a lot of 'encouraging' her to confess her 'sins'. I wouldn't be surprised if she is writing this down to try to convince herself it is true. The writing style reminds me a bit of Molly Aley who used to write about her husband in a similar way, until it turned out he had been abusing her for years.

They sound as screwed up as any of the other fundie families and I pity the kids, living in a van and having to put on happy attitudes when all is far from well. :x

I just finished reading her testimony. Apparently she's been confessing her sins and finally got born again last year. Naturally she confessed her sins to her headship. I'm sure that he told her she could pray away her lack of submissiveness... :roll:

[Guest Anonymous]

Her testimony post and the comments section that follows are very interesting.

http://www.lockwoodfamilytomexico.com/2 ... imony.html

I was a born-again Christian and am familiar with testimonies of this kind. I could write them from memory.

I strongly suspect though, that her husband is doing a number on her for her to have believed she was never saved until that June date.

[Kelya]

Wow, I read a few posts and in the most recent one they have 14 people in two hotel rooms. Where are they all sleeping? Assuming two rooms with two queen beds, maybe the three girls in one room with mom and the two babies, and then dad and the other boys in the other room? I'm assuming cots or blankets on the floor were engaged. It seems so crowded, especially if the hotel gave them two vouchers per room, they don't sound like family style suites or anything.

[Boltingmadonna]

I admit to reading Jaynee's blog regularly, and she does seem like a really sweet person who loves her children and is doing her best under the circumstances. But I also am horrified by those circumstances, and I feel as if sometimes endurance is NOT the right attitude. Sometimes circumstances just need to change, and that is the part she can't see.

A lot of the phrases she uses raise little warning flags to me. Kelya was spot on when she said Jaynee sounded as if she "took a few too many amphetamines." I'm familiar with that kind of hyper, almost frantic praise 'n worship talk. Who knows what the reality is--it will always be couched in terms of super duper praise and piety. Nobody is going to say right out what happened, especially if it wasn't so good.

In my judgment, it is not okay to drag small children out of their home and all over the country for three frickin' months, during which time they endured car breakdowns, driving many hours to make up time, having to dress up, get up and sing even though they'd just barfed all over themselves. . . . This is just not good! You wouldn't treat an animal this way. You wouldn't take a show dog, say, that was sick, and keep him traveling and keep showing him even though he was vomiting. But that's what they're doing with these children.

We were impressed again and again and reminded of how children are a blessing. As our family went to each church and the children would sing and visit with the people, we saw it on their faces. And heard it over and over again. They loved the children.

Um, yeah--people love cute, pretty, well-trained little children--and they are inspired to GIVE THEM MONEY. That's what this is all about. They're using their children as a fundraiser, because that is how they pay for their "ministry" to the godless Mexicans. When they go on furlough, they beg for money. I know it sounds harsh to put it so bluntly, and I will be sorry to hurt Jaynee's feelings if she reads this, but that is what they're doing. In their minds, it's a-ok because they're doing it for Jesus. I think they need to read Frank Schaeffer's books about his childhood and see how children of missionaries sometimes feel when they are adults and can speak up about their experience.

All the hardships, sickness, miles, heat, cold, unknowns, being out of our home...it is such a small sacrifice compared to the joy the Lord gives us each day in just knowing Him!

I have no patience with this argument. Way to erase any suspicion you might have that you're doing something harmful. "Jesus suffered more, so nothing that happens to you matters--because Jesus suffered more." Anyway, Jaynee and Daniel are free to suffer as much as they want to--but their children don't have a choice. It's not okay that you minimize any hardships they might be feeling with this comforting platitude. It's the duty of parents to take as good care of their children as they possibly can--not to expect them to suffer and then suck it up for Jesus.

I complain, I whine, I get discouraged, and get angry.

Well, heck yeah! I think this is healthy. It shows she hasn't completely lost her mind. Who wouldn't get discouraged and angry under these circumstances? Something needs to change. Speaking up is good.

Daniel always says that no circumstance, no situation, no trial is so great that it can cause you to lose your joy for joy does not come from our outward circumstances but from within.

Well, bless his little heart! Isn't that special. What kind of a man remains joyful and just drives on when his kids are sick and his wife is crying? Something is amiss here. Where's the compassion and gentleness?

And Daniel will try to encourage me and let me know that quite frankly, my attitude stinks!

What th'?? If I were in this messed-up and discouraging situation, and my husband's "encouragement" to me was to tell me my attitude stinks, I do believe he would soon receive some "encouragement" right back! Here's what is appropriate when your children are sick, you have no money, you've just driven for eight hours in a van, and your wife is crying and telling you she can't keep doing this. You stop the van. You find her a comfortable place to sit down. You put your arms around her and tell her you are so very sorry, and you can see that she is RIGHT and you have pushed everyone too far. You listen to her vent until she is able to calm down, and then you ask her sincerely what she thinks needs to happen next. And then you do that. You don't frickin' tell her her attitude stinks and she needs to repent. You LISTEN to her, and you TAKE CARE of her. And you don't feed her any crap about how Jesus suffered more so she'd better quit her bellyachin'.

I suspect that Jaynee was right as right could be, and I wish she could see that and believe in herself instead of letting herself be bulldozed with guilt and piety. But she is a gentle soul, and she gives in--more's the pity.

Sorry, I'm ranting--but I've see this before and I really don't like it. A good husband doesn't do this to his wife, and good parents don't do this to their children.

[Witsec7]

He reminds me of Allie Fox, the father in Mosquito Coast.

[treemom]

He reminds me of Allie Fox, the father in Mosquito Coast.

Me too.

[fundiefan]

I don't read them regularly and I hate to come off as a total bitch, but I don't feel sorry for her either. She chose to follow her headship and his ways and they chose to have a dozen kids. Of course she's going to be tired and worn out. Her choices, her life, her consequences. I admit, I have zero respect for missionaries so that colors my view of them. They want to 'save' the world, and travel two countries drumming up money for other people to support them and their 'mission'...I just can't find it in myself to have a drop of sympathy.

[treemom]

And like fundie fan I don't feel sorry for her. She is another example of our fundie pets.

She let her husband decide whether they should have more kids even though it risked her life,

I think she is abused.

[Witsec7]

And like fundie fan I don't feel sorry for her. She is another example of our fundie pets.

She let her husband decide whether they should have more kids even though it risked her life,

I think she is abused.

You can see that she's depressed after Neimiah (sp) was born. All of her posts after the birth address her own shortcomings vis a vis her headship not acknowledging her efforts or work. And because she's asking him for validation, and he's not giving it, it has to be HER fault.

That is the crazy makin' part of all this fundy nonsense IMHO. If you read the stuff leading up to her 2010 religious experience, you can see where she is just craving someone to hold her and tell her she is appreciated.

Her homeschooling efforts are pathetic. And she's always writing that she doesn't have time to homeschool. The boys do not work around the house, the girls are worse off than the Jslaves. I cannot imagine what kind of poverty they will marry into. This woman does 15 loads of laundry a day :shock:

I wish the hell they stayed in Rosarita, no he had to move her 800 miles south to bumfuck . Goddess forbid they should be near some Americans. Then the headship sticks them all in a fifth wheel trailer while the house is being built. What she doesn't mention is that its likely they don't even have electric power full time. Certainly when the storms blow through its likely to be out for days. I spent years traveling that section of the baja, we aren't talking developed.

At one point in the blog I was reading about their travels and that aszwipe of a husband, pulls off to the side of the road (USA) and every one grabs their pillows and blankets out of the trailer and they camp out like modern day Joads. No tents no shelter. On the road the kids eat nothing but fast food.

I'm sorry this post is disjointed, its my stream of consciousness anti fundy rant. I

[treemom]

Mine was disjointed too.

[duplessis3]

FWIW, she won't be having any more children - she had a hysterectomy. (Which was probably a good thing.)

And birria is good eating.

[Witsec7]

FWIW, she won't be having any more children - she had a hysterectomy. (Which was probably a good thing.)

And birria is good eating.

Better that they took it out rather than let it fall out from over use.

I concur on the birria, having been a goatkeeper I do love the critters and its the one animal I cannot or will not butcher.

[margiebargie]

The Lockwoods fascinate me and fill me with dread both at the same time. They try to come off so happy, but let's face it, there's some dark stuff going on. I see a massive train wreck coming - well even more massive than what they've already put themselves through. Daniel's pretty much an inconsiderate, self-centered maggot. He's as career obsessed as any wall street player. At least wall street players don't drag their kids into it. Jaynee would have been the only hope for those kids but she's defeated and pathetic. If only Jaynee would learn to follow her gut and stick to her guns. Her kids need her to do that. When she complains about stuff she's usually right.

I guess I'm a bit ranty, too. I can't help it. For me, the Lockwoods have a very high ick factor. I just don't see it ending well.

@Boltingmadonna - I loved your post. You nailed it.

ETA. Jaynee almost died after the last pregnancy. Daniel actually seemed concerned about her for awhile. He even got her help around the house. It's very sad that things seem to have returned to the same old, same old.