Southern Baptists, Y'all! 2021 Convention

[47of74]

1 hour ago, Howl said:

Fixed it for ya or at least it seems that way. 

Well I think they want to dominate and control anyone who isn't wealthy and white.  Not just women but anyone who doesn't meet their exacting criteria.  I honestly think that they still view non-whites as 1/5 of a person and any whites regardless of sex who aren't wealthy and members of their denomination as 3/5 of a person if that. 

I try not to be one of those who says that if you're a member of X denomination you're a spawn of Satan but goddamn these SBC clowns make it fornicating hard.  

 

Edited July 10, 2021 by 47of74

[Coconut Flan]

The convention sparked a small cluster of COVID cases:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/07/10/white-house-calls-out-door-to-door-vaccine-push-critics/7922041002/

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Southern Baptist Convention sparks small COVID-19 cluster in Nashville

A small but worrisome coronavirus cluster has been linked to a Baptist convention’s annual meeting in Nashville, the first large-scale conference held in the city after it lifted restrictions on gatherings, according to the Metro Public Health Department.

The Southern Baptist Convention’s annual meeting, a two-day event at which Baptist churchgoers elected leaders and debated controversial topics, drew more than 15,000 attendees to Music City Center starting on June 15.  

About eight to 10 infections have been detected among attendees since the event in mid-June, which is enough to be classified as an COVID-19 cluster, said Metro Health epidemiologist Leslie Waller. The cluster is almost certainly larger but difficult to measure because most attendees live outside of Tennessee, Waller said.

 

[Howl]

19 hours ago, 47of74 said:

Well I think they want to dominate and control anyone who isn't wealthy and white.  Not just women but anyone who doesn't meet their exacting criteria.  I honestly think that they still view non-whites as 1/5 of a person and any whites regardless of sex who aren't wealthy and members of their denomination as 3/5 of a person if that. 

Yes, I see your point and thanks for that clarification.

Links to a few articles reflecting on SBC, Ed Litton, patriarchy and Critical Race Theory.   

NEW PATRIARCH, SAME PATRIARCHY: DESPITE GLOWING PRAISE FOR NEW SBC PRESIDENT, THERE’S JUST ONE PROBLEM

The problem being SBC's  embrace of patriarchy, female submission and complementarianism set women and girls up for abuse. 

CRITICAL RACE THEORY IS JUST THE LATEST BATTLE: ‘THE BIBLE TOLD THEM SO: HOW SOUTHERN EVANGELICALS FOUGHT TO PRESERVE WHITE SUPREMACY’ by Christopher Cantwell (Chris Cantwell, @cdc29 on Twitter)

Here Cantwell is discussing  The Bible Told Them So: How Southern Evangelicals Fought to Preserve White Supremacy by J. Russell Hawkins

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According to Hawkins, many Southern white Christians knew by the late 1960s that integration would become the law of the land. In response, they developed a “colorblind” Christianity that would allow the defense of segregation to live on. 

Though shorn of segregation theology’s more repugnant features, this colorblind gospel nonetheless ensured that churches, schools, and Christian homes would remain resources in the defense of white supremacy by excising serious discussions of race from these spaces. Evangelicalism was central to this development, for evangelical theology’s emphasis on personal salvation allowed white Christians to make individual choices the answer to racism as well. In this view, efforts to address systemic or structural injustice became more than simply odious to many Southern white Christians. Like their view on integration itself, it became contrary to God’s plan as well. 

Hawkins sees the “historical residue” of this segregationist theology across the Christian landscape today, from the evangelical rejection of identity politics to the racial exclusivity of many white churches. And of course we can also see it in the ongoing battles over race in today’s Southern Baptist Convention.

 

Edited July 11, 2021 by Howl

[hoipolloi]

Ronnie Floyd has resigned as the CEO of the SBC:

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Dean Inserra, an executive committee member and pastor of a large Southern Baptist church in Tallahassee, Fla., said that Floyd stubbornly resisted the will of Southern Baptist messengers from the beginning. He said that behind the back stage in Nashville, Floyd tried to talk other Baptist leaders from putting forward a motion on waiving executive privilege.

“He won’t accept any blame whatsoever and has made this about his integrity,” Inserra said. “He could’ve been the leader of doing what the messengers wanted and could’ve been a hero. Since he did not do that, there had to be a grass-roots movement to counter it.”

 

 

[Sarcastically spinster]

10 hours ago, hoipolloi said:

Ronnie Floyd has resigned as the CEO of the SBC:

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Apparently prompted by the vote to waive executive privilege.  Along with multiple other executive committee members who are probably better gone.  

When they initially voted against waiving privilege, there were a *lot* of churches very close to pulling out.  Multiple states sent statements with multiple churches signing on that were basically "get it together and waive privilege or we're out, and our money with us".  

I wish that hadn't been needed, but glad to see churches standing up and forcing their hand on this.  There are enough churches within the SBC ready to take abuse seriously to make things happen.  

[Howl]

Southern Baptist Convention CEO Ronnie Floyd resigns as the old guard finally crumbles   Change is coming slowly and painfully to an organization roiled by a sex abuse scandal that exposed the hypocrisy at its core.

Frankly, it's hard to believe that the SBC will transform into a transparent organization, but at least some evil doing has been exposed. 

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The convention’s chief executive officer, Ronnie Floyd, had sided with his powerful colleagues, who wanted to limit an investigation into the widespread misconduct that took place as Floyd and other conservatives ascended the ranks of the organization. But delegates (or “messengers”) from the member churches refused to let Floyd control the investigation, prompting him to resign last week.

and this

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The great lie of these conservative teachers, and the lie that animates much of the rage their congregants and dissident leaders feel toward them, is that while Christianity is a hard road, it is one that the leaders and their followers walked together. With the veil of secrecy these men drew over themselves now cast aside, we can see that self-denial was merely a weapon they used to dominate their fellow Christians and acquire the power that would allow them to slake their lusts and greed.