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    • Glasgowghirl


      18 hours ago, Emcee said:

      Glasgow residents, do you have hate preachers using your city as a personal pulpit, too?

      Not that I'm aware of, I hope not.

    • ChunkyBarbie


      3 hours ago, Black Aliss said:

      Bestiality is actually illegal in Washington (it's not in many states), so charges would have been filed.

      That said, I predict Kelly will be married to Natty Darnell within a year. Scott will insist on it.

      If that happens, Ol Scottie needs a new picker. God forbid, he let Kelly pick her own husband. Hey Scottie, I picked my own husband and we have had 24 years and counting of wedded bliss. The kicker, my husband isn't even Christian!  

    • Million Children For Jesus

      Posted (edited)

      42 minutes ago, singsingsing said:

      You're a perfect example of the vast limitations of these tests, and the reason why they should not be used to qualify or disqualify anyone as belonging to any particular group! It sounds like your great-great-grandpa was accepted as Apache by the Apache community, and that your great-grandma grew up in that culture. There's a reason tribes don't accept DNA results for membership. It's absolutely possible to be a member of a group via adoption, marriage, etc. rather than DNA. In fact, DNA (in the context of these tests) is just looking at patterns common to certain groups of people who inhabited certain areas at one time. It's basically telling you, "Your DNA matches about 17% with what we've discovered people from X region tend to show." 

      In the 18th and 19th century, many Irish people married French Canadians, and many more Irish orphans were adopted into French Canadian families. They were raised French, and the majority of them forgot their Irish heritage. Depending on the location

       and random chance, it's possible that a few generations later you could have French Canadians who were actually mostly of Irish descent - and yet culturally speaking, they were 100% French Canadian! 

      The tests are a lot of fun, and they can rule out certain things at a broad level (I remember one particular woman who was adopted and raised believing she was part Native American, but her test came back 50% Japanese, and she went on to discover that her birth father was, in fact, Japanese) - they can also provide clues ("Hmm, my test came back 25% Jewish, maybe that rumour about Grandpa So-and-So was right"). But they absolutely cannot define your identity! Reality is far messier than that!

      Yes, you do, to the extent that you would be able to draw a conclusion about their ethnicity (which is another issue altogether). 

      I love that you used the Irish/French Canadian example because that's the other side of my family! My dad is Irish, Quebecois, and German. He's much more Irish than German or Quebecois, but he qualifies for a German citizenship through a heritage Visa. We eat almost exclusively German food, even though we don't live in a German area. It's weird what things get passed on to the next generation. Like fry bread and pow-wows from the Jewish side, haha! 

      ETA: You're correct about Great Grandma. Culturally, she lived 100% Apache. 

      Edited by Million Children For Jesus
    • Carm_88


      Oh the Rods for sure @JermajestyDuggar! I have only read bits and pieces of the Nauglers but I would take lazy David/over the top Jill over super angry Joe/paranoid Nicole. Plus Jill grifted a house and I'd take an RV over the Naugler shed. 

    • nastyhobbitses


      2 hours ago, Georgiana said:

      You know, Farrah's crazy, but she isn't the worst of the moms.  Let's flesh out who Jill has on there:

      Maci:  A pretty good mom, though she was clearly drinking when visibly pregnant with her youngest child.

      Amber: A former (though many suspect she is using again) drug addict who went to jail ("gel" in Amber-speak), lost custody of her daughter, currently dating a man who at one point had something like 7-9 open paternity suits against him (it is also suspected Amber has paid some of his backed support) who has faked being the survivor of childhood abuse and was charged with rape.  He has limited to no contact with any of his 7-9 other children and was not involved in their lives growing up.  They are "clean and sober" though they frequently drink on camera.  Her bf has a tattoo he claimed said "Clean and sober" in Chinese.  I have a degree in Chinese with an emphasis on Classical Chinese (the root of idioms).  It says "LiSa".  Amber occasionally remembers to spend time with her daughter when not doing other things.

      Farrah:  absolutely batshit, but actually has custody of her daughter.  Her mother is even crazier and is currently rapping as "DebzOG".

      Catelynn: (background: I also struggle with depression and anxiety) Cate is a drug and alcohol abuser who has been caught smoking while driving.  Compulsively buys animals she cannot care for.  Does nothing all day.  In "treatment" for mental health, but does not make her appointments or follow treatment instructions, and uses drugs which are known to interfere with her antidepressants.  Frequently drops her daughter off with her mother, who abused Cate as a child and is the root of many of her issues.  Talking about having another child despite her poorly managed mental health making her unable to care for the one she has.  

      Nice work, Jill.  

      Aww, she didn't have Janelle "I Can't Go To Jail Because I Got Tickets to See Ke$ha" Evans on there? She's my favorite. That's why I got all these feathers in my hair.