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    • theotherelise

      Posted

      I agree, Shiloh being in the room alone struck me as isolation. 

      The boys bunk has Simon, Ezra, honor, and Theo. Shiloh is in the little bedroom alone  

      The girls bunk has Della, Nola, and Evie. 

      Toby and Titus are in the closet nursery. 

      The boys hangout room could be Simon and Ezra’s with the middle three in the bunk and the twins in the little room. Brother dad could still be in place for helping all of them in that arrangement. 

       

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    • ptm6114

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      16 minutes ago, Cults-r-us said:

      So now we know from where duck biologist Botkin got his 200-year family plan theology. It must have been pervasive thinking in their little corner of the world.

      “The blessing given by Liberty Phillips to her sister Jubilee on her wedding day to her groom Adam:

      ’Thou art our sister, be thou the mother of thousands of millions, and let thy seed possess the gate of those which hate them.’ Genesis 24:60”

      What in the actual psychopathy, backwoods-brainwashing do these people think they’re doing?! 🥴🤯😂

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    • thoughtful

      Posted (edited)

      On the evening of Sunday, March 10, some members of the pastor's family sang a special - God Wants to Hear You Sing. It opens with the lyrics:

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      Their chains were fastened tight
      Down at the jail that night
      Still Paul and Silas would not be dismayed

      According to the captions, the chains:

      Spoiler

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      Nothing worse than fuzzing chains.

      Baker announces the winners of the March Madness competitions from the last two weeks:

       - most tracts handed out: "Dad Baker." Dave's father, maybe?

      - most people led to Christ - a young woman who isn't there because she's in the nursery.

      In case you want to guess what their prize is before I tell you, I'll put it under a spoiler.

      Spoiler

      A gift card for Chik-fil-a.

      Baker reminds them that this is much better than three-pointers and anything else in that other March Madness.

      "Blessings neat special good encouraging?"

      A man is called on, and begins to weep as he talks about his son (who is 23) telling him he felt lost. He says he told his son to beg God to give him a purpose, and to make it so obvious that it can't be missed.

      This just breaks my heart. First of all, just because this man really sounds frightened for his son - regardless of the reason, I'd feel for him. But the idea that one's "purpose" has to come from a supernatural source just burns my hide. Their religious teachings make the already difficult experience of being a young adult and choosing your path even harder, burdening their kids with a sense that other people have gotten a message from God, and wondering why theirs hasn't come.

      This is something I hear a lot listening to religious apologists talk to non-believers; "How do you find your purpose in life?" Or even, "You can't possibly have a purpose in life, because you don't have God to tell you what it is." Some of them are (or pretend to be) oblivious to the idea that a person's life can be self-directed, that we can make our own purpose.

      I really hope this young man is not waiting around for a sign from God, in order to know what to do with his life.

      Baker, of course, uses it to bloviate meaninglessly. "It's amazing - saved, trusted Christ as savior, but not where ya need to be. There's an emptiness, there's a lost part there with no purpose or direction and boy, you get to the cross. That purpose and direction in your life that you know what God has you to do, fulfillment, joy, blessing, and you see how _______'s* doing, who was lost for a while, and loving life and serving God and helpin' people. Nothin' better than that, awesome. Pray um for the kids that are away from the Lord, OK? Who else? Blessing?"

      * He says another young man's name here.

      Did that make sense to you? Me either. He's probably thinking "It's Sunday night, not Wednesday night - didn't you hear me say blessings neat special good encouraging? Don't bring the room down, man."

      A young woman (who Baker makes sure to mention used to be "a bus kid") thanks Baker and his wife for what they taught her when she was little.

      Becky tells them that their missionary friends have gotten all of their support and the husband found a house in Africa that has five bedrooms and four bathrooms. Baker asks what country, and Becky tells him Uganda. So the screaming Bryants are finally going to Uganda.

      A man says it's been a blessing to learn so much in church. He was talking to a co-worker, he says, who asked him if he ever worried that he was wrong. Baker laughs at the very idea. The man says that so many things come to mind when he's asked that - of course, all of them are from the bible and what Baker has told him.

      Baker comments on that.

      A woman talks about a recently released inmate from the women's prison, who'd had trouble finding a place to live. But God found her one (this woman actually mentions the woman's case worker trying to find her a place while telling the story, but no - it was God that actually provided).

      Baker comments on that.

      Pastor's wife says she talked to a woman who recently moved to their area from Mississippi, where she'd attended a Baptist church all her life. She says she asked the woman if she knew she was going to heaven, and the woman said "I hope so." Mrs. Baker says she showed her, in the bible, how she could know for sure and said she thought it was "so sad that she hadn't gotten it" from her many years in church. But now she knew.

      Baker comments on that. If you're getting the idea that Baker seems to feel the need to cap off everyone's statements, to interpret them, add his two cents, and somehow make them his, you are getting the feeling of this part of the service.

      One of Baker's sons got to go swimming - oops, captions, that's soul-winning - with one of his brothers. It didn't start out well - nobody answering doors except for one guy who said he was going back in to take a nap. But two men "got saved."

      That's enough for now.

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    • Cults-r-us

      Posted

      18 minutes ago, ptm6114 said:

      So did I interpret this right—the article from the SPLC says Rushdoony, whom Howard Phillips was a follower of, supported the death penalty for gays?!
       

      And one of the links went to another article about Howard stating “Christian Reconstructionists' plans for dominion are multigenerational; families are encouraged to build dynasties with 200-year plans and to see their families as central to God's plan for history.”

      😵‍💫🤐🤐🤐 

      So now we know from where duck biologist Botkin got his 200-year family plan theology. It must have been pervasive thinking in their little corner of the world.

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    • PennyLane

      Posted

      I’ve been listening to them for about a year now. The episode with  the Bishop who resigned from the pulpit and his story has been very interesting. 

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