Islamic terrorists murder 1,400 Yazidi men

[It'sFunToRun]

WARNING: Pictures in Spoiler are graphic.

Up to 3,000 Yazidi women and girls have been abducted to be forcibly converted to Islam and be made wives/slaves to their Islamic captors.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... death.html

Obama didn't save them.

The pope didn't save them.

The "enlightened Europeans" and their silly union didn't save them.

Your prayers didn't save them.

Your "good thoughts" didn't save them.

Your facebook petition didn't save them.

Because none of those have any real power. The only reason that you are not in their place is because your own country's military is there to protect you from the bad guys.

Have you thanked a soldier yet today?

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SPOILER??

[Marianne]

This is horrible.

BUT

1) Don't put this image without spoiler because some people might not like this. I know we live in a world were violence is normal, but NO, it's NOT. May an admin edit it ?

2) European Union f*ck you. Our "silly" union f*ck you. We do not own an army because it's not a military union.

[samurai_sarah]

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Up to 3,000 Yazidi women and girls have been abducted to be forcibly converted to Islam and be made wives/slaves to their Islamic captors.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... death.html

Obama didn't save them.

The pope didn't save them.

The "enlightened Europeans" and their silly union didn't save them.

Your prayers didn't save them.

Your "good thoughts" didn't save them.

Your facebook petition didn't save them.

Because none of those have any real power. The only reason that you are not in their place is because your own country's military is there to protect you from the bad guys.

Have you thanked a soldier yet today?

And your personal direct action takes which form?

[keen23]

Where are you getting this 1400 number from? No news outlet has that as the number killed in the massacres.

[milkncookies76]

Yeah, I'm sure all the innocent people killed in Iraq and Afghanistan REALLY want to thank an American soldier. Plus, ya know, countries like Costa Rica, Iceland, Japan, Switzerland, etc with small armies are on the verge of getting taken over by Islamic extremists because they don't have a freakishly huge army protecting them. Yeah. Okay.

[It'sFunToRun]

This is horrible.

BUT

1) Don't put this image without spoiler because some people might not like this. I know we live in a world were violence is normal, but NO, it's NOT. May an admin edit it ?

2) European Union f*ck you. Our "silly" union f*ck you. We do not own an army because it's not a military union.

The European Union is powerless, it's funny that people think it's important and act like it matters what the European Union thinks. If you look at is as just a group who maybe makes decisions about intercountry laws (like pornography, etc) then it might have meaning, but people stupidly expect it to have actual say in the wars of other countries which it doesn't. I don't think the EU has ever stopped a massacre, all it does is "condemn" them which is meaningless.

[It'sFunToRun]

And your personal direct action takes which form?

Which personal direct action? Posting on FJ doesn't do anything except share my opinion, but I don't pretend it does anything else. My military service prevents terrorists from killing people in my country.

[It'sFunToRun]

Yeah, I'm sure all the innocent people killed in Iraq and Afghanistan REALLY want to thank an American soldier. Plus, ya know, countries like Costa Rica, Iceland, Japan, Switzerland, etc with small armies are on the verge of getting taken over by Islamic extremists because they don't have a freakishly huge army protecting them. Yeah. Okay.

Causualties of war are unpreventable, but less tragic than this kind of slaughter. Do you think that the death of a person caught by a stray bullet when police try to catch a murderer is morally equivalent to the death of someone murdered in cold blood? It's okay if you do, that's your right. Costa Rica, Iceland, etc aren't surrounded by countries with large terrorist populations.

I was specifically thinking of Israel, and how when the IDF succeeds in preventing this exact type of slaughter from happening, some people with air for brains accuse them of "war crimes".

[It'sFunToRun]

Where are you getting this 1400 number from? No news outlet has that as the number killed in the massacres.

The number along with the picture was on the Israel Post (physical newspaper) yesterday. I should have taken a picture of the cover. It's bizarre how English news sources aren't publishing this story and these pictures. Sorry I didn't make the spoiler; I know how and have used the spoiler before for porno, I just forgot. Won't happen again.

[milkncookies76]

Causualties of war are unpreventable, but less tragic than this kind of slaughter. Do you think that the death of a person caught by a stray bullet when police try to catch a murderer is morally equivalent to the death of someone murdered in cold blood? It's okay if you do, that's your right. Costa Rica, Iceland, etc aren't surrounded by countries with large terrorist populations.

I was specifically thinking of Israel, and how when the IDF succeeds in preventing this exact type of slaughter from happening, some people with air for brains accuse them of "war crimes".

I had no idea that America was surrounded by countries with a large terrorist population. And I think you'd be singing a different tune if it was your family killed by bombs or soldiers. I'd want revenge on the country that did that to my family, wouldn't you?

And many actions taken against the people of Gaza certainly could be considered war crimes. http://www.amnesty.org.uk/issues/Israel-and-Palestine

[milkncookies76]

The European Union is powerless, it's funny that people think it's important and act like it matters what the European Union thinks. If you look at is as just a group who maybe makes decisions about intercountry laws (like pornography, etc) then it might have meaning, but people stupidly expect it to have actual say in the wars of other countries which it doesn't. I don't think the EU has ever stopped a massacre, all it does is "condemn" them which is meaningless.

Citation needed.

[milkncookies76]

Which personal direct action? Posting on FJ doesn't do anything except share my opinion, but I don't pretend it does anything else. My military service prevents terrorists from killing people in my country.

Citation needed.

[It'sFunToRun]

I had no idea that America was surrounded by countries with a large terrorist population. And I think you'd be singing a different tune if it was your family killed by bombs or soldiers. I'd want revenge on the country that did that to my family, wouldn't you?

And many actions taken against the people of Gaza certainly could be considered war crimes. http://www.amnesty.org.uk/issues/Israel-and-Palestine

If you would rather be slaughtered and have your family be slaughtered than risk unintentionally killing (which will happen) the wives and children of people who are out to kill you, that's fine. Where I am people think differently :D

[Marianne]

The European Union is powerless, it's funny that people think it's important and act like it matters what the European Union thinks. If you look at is as just a group who maybe makes decisions about intercountry laws (like pornography, etc) then it might have meaning, but people stupidly expect it to have actual say in the wars of other countries which it doesn't. I don't think the EU has ever stopped a massacre, all it does is "condemn" them which is meaningless.

Everybody know that the EU has never stopped a massacre, it an economic union ! I think it's important and act like it matters because, maybe, the european union have an impact on my life. Euro, for example, have a "little" impact in my everyday life.

If people want to european union to have an actual meaning in the war of other countries, they are stupid. The only things that the EU can do is saying "it's very bad to kill other people !" Think about what happened in Rwanda, it was more or less this.

I have no admiration or confidence in the French army. There are good people in it, but the management/direction is rotten. Look at what happened in the 1940s, it has nearly not changed ! The principle of the French army is to take the most ignorant, racist and stupid soldiers, and put them in command. Maybe the American army is better, I do not know, but it's better that the French army remains in France.

[It'sFunToRun]

Citation needed.

Let's start with the Bosnian genocide in the early 1990s, where thousands were massacred. From Wikipedia

{L_OFFTOPIC} :

In April 1993, the United Nations declared the besieged enclave of Srebrenica in the Drina Valley of north-eastern Bosnia a "safe area" under UN protection. However, in July 1995, the United Nations Protection Force (UNPROFOR), represented on the ground by a 400-strong contingent of Dutch peacekeepers, Dutchbat, did not prevent the town's capture by the VRS and the subsequent massacre.

Lest you think that those 400 Dutch peacekeepers were killed valiantly fighting to save the innocents, you should know that they all fucking fled. It wasn't their families at risk. In fact eyewitness testimonies say that the Serbs raped and shot babies in front of the peacekeepers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre

Around the same time, genocide was happening in Rwanda. Do you think the United Nations, together with U.S. and Russia did a better job of protecting people there? Read here to find out. http://www.rwandanstories.org/genocide/ ... _west.html

Obama didn't want Russia to invade Ukraine. The Europeans didn't want Russia to invade Ukraine. Russia invaded Ukraine. No one sent their own armies to go kick Russia out. And for good reason, I'm not saying other countries should necessarily get more involved, I'm just pointing out that it's ridiculous to expect the UN to save you when another country or group of terrorists tries to harm you. We've seen from history that they only save their own a*ses. At least the US is now conducting air strikes on the Islamic terrorists who murdered the Yazidis, but for the many already killed, it's too little, too late.

[It'sFunToRun]

Everybody know that the EU has never stopped a massacre, it an economic union ! I think it's important and act like it matters because, maybe, the european union have an impact on my life. Euro, for example, have a "little" impact in my everyday life.

If people want to european union to have an actual meaning in the war of other countries, they are stupid. The only things that the EU can do is saying "it's very bad to kill other people !" Think about what happened in Rwanda, it was more or less this.

I have no admiration or confidence in the French army. There are good people in it, but the management/direction is rotten. Look at what happened in the 1940s, it has nearly not changed ! The principle of the French army is to take the most ignorant, racist and stupid soldiers, and put them in command. Maybe the American army is better, I do not know, but it's better that the French army remains in France.

Sorry, I meant UN not EU, all the acronyms make me silly :D

I'm not at all saying that the French army is bad, I'm saying that if you are not French, then you are delusional if you think the French army will save you.

[It'sFunToRun]

Citation needed.

My specific job is classified, but you only need a brain to be able to figure that one out. Do you have one? :lol:

[samurai_sarah]

Which personal direct action? Posting on FJ doesn't do anything except share my opinion, but I don't pretend it does anything else. My military service prevents terrorists from killing people in my country.

So, basically, you personally aren't doing anything, except accusing others of not doing anything. Glad we cleared that one up.

[It'sFunToRun]

So, basically, you personally aren't doing anything, except accusing others of not doing anything. Glad we cleared that one up.

If that's how you choose to see it, that's fine with me. :D

[Marianne]

Sorry, I meant UN not EU, all the acronyms make me silly :D

I'm not at all saying that the French army is bad, I'm saying that if you are not French, then you are delusional if you think the French army will save you.

You know a lot of people outside France who think that French Army can save someone ? I guess that for american, we are the country of Pétain, who act like a coward in 1940...

[Mama Mia]

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Up to 3,000 Yazidi women and girls have been abducted to be forcibly converted to Islam and be made wives/slaves to their Islamic captors.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... death.html

Obama didn't save them.

The pope didn't save them.

The "enlightened Europeans" and their silly union didn't save them.

Your prayers didn't save them.

Your "good thoughts" didn't save them.

Your facebook petition didn't save them.

Because none of those have any real power. The only reason that you are not in their place is because your own country's military is there to protect you from the bad guys.

Have you thanked a soldier yet today?

I think where you went wrong with this post was in using an article quote that reads like any political Facebook mass post designed to stir outrage. I understand that wasn't your source, but it's just how it reads, and since you didn't really include any other explanation or commentary, it just reads kind of strangely. I think you might have gotten a better discussion of the actual issues if you had presented it a little differently. Not being hand slappy, just an observation, IMHO.

Given that, I do think it would be interesting to have conversations about non-Christian Fundamentalist Extremists without it almost always being assumed that just having the discussion will result in people becoming anti-Islam in general.

[It'sFunToRun]

I think where you went wrong with this post was in using an article quote that reads like any political Facebook mass post designed to stir outrage. I understand that wasn't your source, but it's just how it reads, and since you didn't really include any other explanation or commentary, it just reads kind of strangely. I think you might have gotten a better discussion of the actual issues if you had presented it a little differently. Not being hand slappy, just an observation, IMHO.

Given that, I do think it would be interesting to have conversations about non-Christian Fundamentalist Extremists without it almost always being assumed that just having the discussion will result in people becoming anti-Islam in general.

No, I agree with you. Probably no one is going to say "ISIS did the right thing. Muslim terrorists totally have the right to kill infidels." Obviously there are people think that, but most of them don't hang out on FJ.