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She thinks that men and women should marry in their late teens; because their marriage bond will become stronger in later years. Here's the link: sunshinemaryandthedragon.wordpress.com/2013/04/30/in-support-of-early-marriage-why-i-hope-our-daughters-will-be-teen-aged-brides/. Since it worked out for her parents; that must mean that it works for everybody! 1 of her sources for sexual activity is wikipedia; lol. Here are some "nuggets of wisdom" in the comments section:

Farm Boy April 30, 2013 at 12:31 pm

You brought up the old baloney about “Gotta finish schoo before we get marriedâ€. As the question “whyâ€, and get non-sequiturs

Even if people don't graduate college; they should at least look into trade school or basically graduate high school. It's not the 1910's anymore where you could drop out of school and get a good job just because you're available. You have to have credetionals (sp?), aka college degrees, experience and high school diplomas before they take you. Employers want employess who know how to do their job; not just wanting a job and not being able to do it. The myth that 1 person usually the male, is the breadwinner; is not an economically assurance in the 21st century. Sometimes a woman will work for her family or sometimes both parents will have a job.

It's unbelieveable, I know.

Looking Glass April 30, 2013 at 12:35 pm

Farm Boy’s keyboard failed him.

Most of the “reasons†aren’t actually reasons nor reasonable. You see the type of response quite a lot when people want to reject the topic as a whole. You see it all the time in politics and in religious discussions as well. (How many out of context Biblical quotes have you seen in your life?)

Apparantly; this person thinks that people who have different opinion from fundies don't count. I bet this person complains when people take Bible quotes out of context when people use the Bible to tell fundies that Leviticus also tells people that they shouldn't wear mixed fabric or eat shellfish. Only they know the correct interpretations of the Bible so only they should be able to voice their opinion on oit and use it to explain why the American goverment shouldn't allow gay marriage; even though they don't understand the 1st ammendment of the American Constitution. Also they complain when non-fundies and non-Christians use genocide to to point out that God isn't anti-abortion. What tools.

anonymous April 30, 2013 at 12:37 pm

As i’ve said before… this is why I want my boys married before 20. I don’t want them to spend their 20s either sinning (like most of my peers) or suffering (like me). I want them to enjoy their 20s… biblically.

What astounds me is the resistance I get from other Christian, parents… to be more specific, the MOTHERS… on this point. They are aghast — “Ohh., noo, way too young, education, gradschool or something, get to know themselves… blah blahâ€.

To which I respond, “You cannot simultaneously tell kids, “don’t have sex til you’re marriedâ€, and, “don’t get married til you’re over 30″. Very few have the strength to wait that long, and most won’t even tryâ€.And if they know me and my personal saga, I continue, “…. and the few who DO hold out that long, end up psychologically destroyed by it†(<— pointing to myself).

The usual response from these mothers is a grudging, "Yeah, I see your point…." But what horrifies me is that, they never figured out this obvious fact,on their own. Why not?

Some of them, I can give a "pass", because they became Christians later in life, and thus cannot be expected to remember the agonies of 20-something celibacy. And a few married young (but of course, those don't disagree with me on early marriage)… But what about the rest? Most of them grew up in church, and yet they followed the standard post-sexual-revolution white American middle-class lifesccript — high school, college, maybe a post-grad degree, then build their careers for a few years… and then and only then, with 30 looming, do they start thinking about marriage.

Apparantly; this person scoffs at people who think her notions are crazy for living in the reality of the 21st century. Imagine that! sunshimary has commented to leghumper, donelgraeme; to warn her of people who disagree with donalgraeme just like people disagree with sunshinemary's post about getting people to marry in their late teens. Have fun ripping this 1 apart, folks! :D

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The post titled On The Uglification of Modern Women is simply phenomenal. I don't know how to "break" the link to post it here but I've never read anything like it. She says she plays a game when driving called...

“How Ugly is the Person With the Liberal Bumper Sticker?â€

If you don’t believe me try playing the game yourself. Any time you see a car with a leftist bumper sticker catch up to it and peer inside to see how “attractive†the occupant is.

You’ll note two things:

1. They are usually pretty ugly, certainly homely.

2. They are never smiling.

The reason why leftists tend to be uglier is the same reason they are leftists – a deep-seeded fear and hatred of effort and competition.

To be physically attractive, just like a career or anything else worth doing in life, takes effort. You need to work out, you need to run, you need to eat right, you need to dress right, and above all else, you need to have self-control and discipline. You also have to be selfless to a certain extent, considering the preferences and tastes of others in order to prove appealing and attractive to them. You may not like the maintenance required in having long hair, but you’re not having long hair for you, you’re having long hair for him. You may not like lifting heavy blocks of metal repetitively as your brain atrophies, but you’re not doing it for you, you’re doing it for her. In short you have to have a personal philosophy that is opposite of most leftists – hard work and altruism with your own resources.

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Is Sunshine Mary the blogger who is married to a man who is a big cheater? Being cheated on sucks, and if this is true, Sunshine Mary's husband is a massive pig, but she doesn't exactly sound like the most pleasant person to come home to.

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A couple of years ago I read a piece about evangelical churches that were moving away from the 'married right out of high school' model of family life because they were experiencing skyrocketing divorce rates. Couples who married at 18 or 19 because they were horny were breaking up two or three years post-wedding, after the novelty of frequent sex wore off and they were faced with the reality that marriage is hard work, compromise, sacrifice, oftentimes stressful, and sometimes not even that enjoyable. The churches were smart enough to realize that these couples were leaving in droves, disillusioned because they'd been duped as to what marriage really is, and so the came up with strategies to help young people wait until they were emotionally, educationally, and financially stable enough to successfully marry and raise a family. They didn't change the message that sex should happen only within marriage, but they downplayed the idea that access to regular sex is the biggest reason to marry.

Sex is part of marriage, but marriage is a gazillion things in addition to sex. Anyone who argues otherwise is either 1.) stupid, 2.) willfully ignorant, or 3.) no more mature than the kids they want to marry off. Ironically, the same people who argue in favor of teen/young adult marriage are frequently the same people who screech about the "sanctity of marriage" when it comes to gays and lesbians getting hitched. Well, how is marriage really all that special or holy if it's nothing more than a state of life that allows to people to bang each other with society's approbation? The notion that marriage is little more than access to sexy time devalues what marriage really is.

I truly, for the life of me, cannot understand how a parent could push their son or daughter to get married as a teen or young adult just so the kid can have access to licit sex. Fundies like to complain that the secular world is sex obsessed; however, stuff like this points to the fact that fundies are some of the most sex-on-the-brain people imaginable. Everything seems to come down to sex with these folks. Ladies, can't show your knees because it'll make every guy who sees them think about sex. Guys, don't hug your fiance or give your sweetheart a peck on the cheek because you might think about having sex with her. And be sure to marry as soon as it's legal to because God knows it's impossible to live a meaningful, content, productive, interesting, godly life as a young celibate person. It's as if fundies stopped developing psycho-sexually when they were 12 or 13; they're perpetual young adolescents with it comes to sex. It's bizarre. And when you're parenting from an all-sex, all-the-time world view, you're doing your kids a massive disservice in so many ways, including encouraging them to marry before they're ready or able to be a decent spouse.

And one more thing: it drives me bonkers when fundies rhapsodize the past, as in "Golly gee, Grandma and Grandpa married when they were 17 and raised eleventy dozen kids on Grandpa's check from the railroad. And neither of them finished the 10th grade! If they did it in 1930, there's no reason why my kids can't do it in 2013." Well, you know what? It ain't 1930 no more. The world and its expectations of us have moved on. Get over it. Basing your life in 2013 on a 1930 model is delusional. You're setting yourself and your current and future children up for failure, so stop it. Just stop it. Evolve, like those evangelical churches, or die out.

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The post titled On The Uglification of Modern Women is simply phenomenal. I don't know how to "break" the link to post it here but I've never read anything like it. She says she plays a game when driving called...

Actually, exercise improves brain function. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/1 ... the-brain/

(I like this article, because it made me imagine lab rats lifting weights.)

I've had a few mothers (of six or more) say to me that they want their daughters to marry young, and that they wish they had married younger because they could have had more babies. I don't get it at all.

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Is Sunshine Mary the blogger who is married to a man who is a big cheater? Being cheated on sucks, and if this is true, Sunshine Mary's husband is a massive pig, but she doesn't exactly sound like the most pleasant person to come home to.

I used to feel sorry for her; now I think that she and her husband deserve each other.

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Just thinking about celebrity politics, seems to me like the pretty stick hits the left wing more often. Robert Redford v. Clint Eastwood? Ashley Judd v. Victoria Jackson? The only really gorgeous right-wing celeb I can think of is Stacey Dash.

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Just thinking about celebrity politics, seems to me like the pretty stick hits the left wing more often. Robert Redford v. Clint Eastwood? Ashley Judd v. Victoria Jackson? The only really gorgeous right-wing celeb I can think of is Stacey Dash.

The ugliness in their souls shows on their faces.

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Is Sunshine Mary the blogger who is married to a man who is a big cheater? Being cheated on sucks, and if this is true, Sunshine Mary's husband is a massive pig, but she doesn't exactly sound like the most pleasant person to come home to.

It is she. In her blog from yesterday on Traditional vs. Christian marriage she defended him (his handle is Holy Hand Grenade and he posts sometimes, too) saying that he had a dark personality and had to struggle to control his natural urges. In another post she wrote that he stopped loving her and actually started to hate her when she stopped having sex with him (because she was angry that he had cheated). She's also warned her readers that they'll lead their men to cheat or watch porn if they don't perform their wifely duty in the bedroom.

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Is there a biblical reason for this hatred of porn? Why don't the women just watch it with their husbands to get started or something if there are problems. I don't get it. What is so scary about porn?

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I used to feel sorry for her; now I think that she and her husband deserve each other.

When has she said that?

All I know is that she's always talking about her husband being so hot and smart and amazing and perfect and I guess she has to buy into the MRA narrative that men cheating makes women aroused or something (women who cheat are horrible bitches who are dicknotized or something)

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I don't smile when I drive because I am too busy concentrating on a) not hitting anyone and/or b) not getting hit.

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my husband and i married when we were 17 and 18...i have tried to impress upon my children that its best to get your education and THEN worry about marriage and kids. yeah, its been over 20 years and we are still married, but i feel that i missed out on a lot, because i spent the latter part of my childhood and all of my adulthood raising kids and struggling. i love my husband, but i definitely wish we would've waited a few years.

not only that, her ideals are stupid..why in hell would you want your son to marry before 20, when he has no means of supporting a family in the first place?

:shifty:

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I read through the article and some of the comments and here are my initial thoughts:

1) Why do they criticize women for going after men who give them "tingles"? How is that different from a man being aroused by an attractive woman? It suggests that women's sexuality is inherently worse in some way, which is just stupid.

2) SSM has a chart about how the average age of marriage has increased significantly since 1980. She points to this as an "oh noes, more girls are slutting it up and not able to have as many babies!!!" However, this ignores phenomena like the European Marriage Pattern, where women in western Europe married much later than in other parts of the world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hajnal_line

3)What if her daughters marry someone as sleazy as her husband? Will she refuse to support their divorces if their husbands abuse/cheat on them? She claims that she and her husband are essentially going to arrange marriages for her daughters; I can't see how this will turn out well since she seems to be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and he's controlling. I'm just not sure how either of them could pick husbands for their daughters rationally.

4) What makes her commentators think that they are attractive potential marriage partners? From their ravings on the internet, they seem to be whiny, entitled, self-righteous assholes. There is not a single commentator that seems like they would be a pleasant person. Yet, they write shit like: "There are more good men than good women," insinuating that they themselves are one of the "good" ones.

5)Where do they get the idea that "all modern women" have a high "n" numbers? Citation please? I have friends who have a lot of partners, but I also have friends who are mostly celibate, or faithful to their significant others.

6) So you marry young to have sex. What happens when the novelty of sex wears off and you realize that you now have a child with someone that you can't get along with? Oh, wait, she addressed that. Since you've presumably only had sex with one guy, he's the only one you've "pair bonded" to, so you'll always get along with him, even if he's a total asshole who cheats on you. Kind of like SSM's dear husband Holy Hand Grenade.

7) Babysitting for a couple hours on a Friday night is not the same as parenting, SSM.

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I've added myself to her email list. Receiving these daily tidbits of Biblical Womanhood knowledge will provide me with my daily fill of snark.

Today her topic is vaginas. sunshinemaryandthedragon.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/hump-day-lite-reading-my-vagina-is-beautiful-and-other-classy-feminist-memes/

Warning! Don't get a vagina tattoo. She's also found a woman who posted a fake rape accusation on Facebook. This backs up her frequent assertion that most rape reports are falsely filed by sluts looking for attention. Sunshine Mary:

Folks, rape culture does not exist anywhere in this country. It is a fantasy.

She suggested that such a woman could be turned around if violently humped by an alpha Republican. SunshineMary:

And let's fix the faux threat for her, to make it square with reality:

“I want a dominant man to want to hatefuck me so hard. I run my liberal mouth all the time and don’t care who knows it. I wish some hot alpha would think I'm so hot. One night with him and I'd be a good Republican bitch.â€

There we go.]

And she's posted a couple of sexually-charged comments --- including a brag about how her cheating husband has never lost interest in her --- underneath comments by her loyal followers. Why are fundies so obsessed with sex?

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Her post today is about sexual bonding: sunshinemaryandthedragon.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/sexual-bonding-microbiomes-and-the-physical-nature-of-the-one-flesh-union.

No, she's not talking about how people who love each other want to have sex. She's talking about how promiscuous people who have sex will alter their biological makeup forever by exchanging bodily fluids called microbiomes.

Sunshinemary: When a woman comes together with her husband, she’s receiving more than just semen. She’s also being “seeded†by receiving a big dose of his microbiome inside her, a microbiome which literally affects who she is and how she thinks and feels. In a very real sense, we become part of the men we have sexual relations with.

I am only wondering aloud here, but does it not seem that it would be stressful to a woman’s body and mind to receive the microbiomes of numerous men? Wouldn’t her body be able to adapt and function better if she only received that from one man? And doesn’t it make sense that she would bond deeply with that one man, given that part of him is now physically a part of her, affecting the very way she perceives the world?

This seems like another excellent reason for early, life-long marriage for women.

One of her commentators Songtwoeleven provides a link to recipes using semen. :disgust: I kid you not. Of course, you should only use your husband's semen or bad things could happen.

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And then there's her previous post:

sunshinemaryandthedragon.wordpress.com/2013/05/01/hump-day-lite-reading-my-vagina-is-beautiful-and-other-classy-feminist-memes.

Why would she lump the woman with this (IMO) tasteless tattoo in with all feminists, i.e. those who simply believe that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities? Not more rights and opportunities, just equal, and that women's only role in life (unless that's her choice) is not solely to be a broodmare and "helpmeet" to a man. Oh, wait. That would require critical thinking skills. :think:

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