Trump 5: Coming up trumps

[samurai_sarah]

Carry on from here:

 

[AmazonGrace]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/woman-says-trump-reached-under-her-skirt-and-groped-her-in-early-1990s/2016/10/14/67e8ff5e-917d-11e6-a6a3-d50061aa9fae_story.html

[RoseWilder]

I read somewhere this morning that Pence said the allegations will be proven false by the end of the day. I think all that means is the Trump camp is desperately searching for information with which to smear these women (or fabricating lies to smear them with) or they're going to produce more alleged-victims of Bill Clinton (you know, because that approach worked so well for them the last time.) 

Either approach will make their base happy. Neither approach is going to help them with women and independents. 

[AmazonGrace]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/watch-live-lawyer-gloria-allred-9048194

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-rape-sexual-assault-claims-court-republican-party-us-presidential-florida-a7360636.html

 

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/14/497953012/jumped-out-of-my-skin-trump-accuser-jessica-leeds-on-why-she-came-forward

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/14/media/donald-trump-on-lindsay-lohan/

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/14/politics/obama-cleveland-trump-come-on-man/

[AuntK]

The Cheeto-faced, stubby-fingered asshat is in North Carolina right now talking to his minions, telling them about what awful liars these women are on MSNBC and BOOM, BREAKING NEWS, MSNBC switches to Los Angeles and Gloria Alred and a NEW woman coming forward, from The Apprentice. How many is this now?

[Mecca]

18 minutes ago, RoseWilder said:

I read somewhere this morning that Pence said the allegations will be proven false by the end of the day. I think all that means is the Trump camp is desperately searching for information with which to smear these women (or fabricating lies to smear them with) or they're going to produce more alleged-victims of Bill Clinton (you know, because that approach worked so well for them the last time.) 

Either approach will make their base happy. Neither approach is going to help them with women and independents. 

This has been going on for days now. If Orange Jerk face had any legitimate evidence, his camp would have released it by now.

Right now I am watching Trump making fun of the accusers at a rally in Greensboro. He again made reference to how ugly the People reporter is and he would not assault her because of that. Does he not understand he is admitting that he assaults women if he deems them attractive enough? Are his followers that effin' dumb to not read between his disgusting lines?   

Now the baby is crying that the election is rigged. He is trying to lay the ground work for the ass stomping he will get on 11/08. Poor little megalomaniac. 

Trump is a mean and nasty man that lies constantly with impulse control issues. We do not need that anywhere near the Oval Office. 

 

[Scribber]

I have never lost so much respect for so many people as I have during this election cycle.

I try not to judge people. But some of the crap these people (who support Trump) post is just too much!

[AmazonGrace]

 

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/trump-sex-assault-stoynoff-mclaughlin-professor-1.3804809

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-blasts-donald-trump-tough-talker-act/story?id=42801410

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/15/us/politics/trump-voters-reaction.html

https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nydailynews.com%2Famp%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2Fdonald-trump-lied-donating-9-11-charities-article-1.2829908#pt0-307827

 

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/10/14/danny_elfman_creepily_scores_a_video_compiling_footage_of_trump_lurking.html

 

 

[Mecca]

31 minutes ago, Scribber said:

I have never lost so much respect for so many people as I have during this election cycle.

I try not to judge people. But some of the crap these people (who support Trump) post is just too much!

I know how you feel. It makes me physically sick to my stomach seeing and hearing what people say in support of Trump.

I admit I wholeheartedly judge those people that continue to back Trump. I have no interest in associating with people that hold those same views. I don't trust them. 

[sophie10130]

7 minutes ago, Mecca said:

I know how you feel. It makes me physically sick to my stomach seeing and hearing what people say in support of Trump.

I admit I wholeheartedly judge those people that continue to back Trump. I have no interest in associating with people that hold those same views. I don't trust them. 

 Taking detailed notes of those who are defending his remarks against women as people I will NEVER allow alone with my (future) children. I will not let someone tell my little (hypothetical) boy or girl the things they are defending and why they are okay. No way no how. Get out of my life. Shut your horrid traps. Go away.

[nausicaa]

10 minutes ago, Mecca said:

I know how you feel. It makes me physically sick to my stomach seeing and hearing what people say in support of Trump.

I admit I wholeheartedly judge those people that continue to back Trump. I have no interest in associating with people that hold those same views. I don't trust them. 

Yep. I've always prided myself on separating politics from my relationships with people, but not this time. If you support racism, misogyny, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, and totalitarianism, sorry, but we ain't gonna be friends. I just can't forget about what they believe deep down. 

[Mecca]

3 minutes ago, nausicaa said:

Yep. I've always prided myself on separating politics from my relationships with people, but not this time. If you support racism, misogyny, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism, and totalitarianism, sorry, but we ain't gonna be friends. I just can't forget about what they believe deep down. 

Exactly. I am a rarity in these parts. Most people I know are conservative. I may not agree with a lot of what they believe when it comes to politics, but I would not dump them as friends if they backed John McCain or Mitt Romney. This situation is a whole other game. I will say there are some that are saying no way would they back Trump, but there are several that won't quit Trump no matter what he says or does. We have noped right out of those relationships. 

[47of74]

I think I said before that if a person supports Agent Orange it tells me everything I need to know about that person.

That's why I'm all for people putting that fuck muppet j--z trumpet's signs in their front yards.  Helps me identify who the neighborhood assholes are.

[AmazonGrace]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-says-trump-reached-up-her-skirt

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-threats-to-sue-all-talk_us_5800c470e4b06e0475942c7f-at-new-york-nightclub-182442015.html

[Cartmann99]

57 minutes ago, AmazonGrace said:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/15/us/politics/trump-voters-reaction.html

 I thought I was numb to the garbage these people spill, but that Dianne DeWolfe woman got to me. Her bleating about how no man ever attacks a woman unless she looking like she's asking for it is nonsense.

Dianne, I don't normally use this sort of language, but on behalf of all of the women in the world who have had the degrading experience of being groped, I cordially invite you to go fuck yourself.

Exactly how does getting on a crowded elevator mean "Please grab my butt!" or talking to your boss's husband about business mean "Please grab my breasts!"? You've obviously led a very sheltered life to have never had such experiences or known someone who did. Intellectually, I get that this is a defense mechanism so that you can feel safe in this world, but at 73 years of age, you really should know better by now.  It doesn't matter what you wear or where you go, as long as there are creeps like Donald Trump in this world who believe they have the right to put their hands on your body without invitation.

[47of74]

3 minutes ago, AmazonGrace said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-says-trump-reached-up-her-skirt

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-threats-to-sue-all-talk_us_5800c470e4b06e0475942c7f-at-new-york-nightclub-182442015.html

I think Agent Orange would have to establish that he has standing to sue and he suffered actual damages before any lawsuits could go forward.

7 minutes ago, Cartmann99 said:

 I thought I was numb to the garbage these people spill, but that Dianne DeWolfe woman got to me. Her bleating about how no man ever attacks a woman unless she looking like she's asking for it is nonsense.

Dianne, I don't normally use this sort of language, but on behalf of all of the women in the world who have had the degrading experience of being groped, I cordially invite you to go fuck yourself.

Exactly how does getting on a crowded elevator mean "Please grab my butt!" or talking to your boss's husband about business mean "Please grab my breasts!"? You've obviously led a very sheltered life to have never had such experiences or known someone who did. Intellectually, I get that this is a defense mechanism so that you can feel safe in this world, but at 73 years of age, you really should know better by now.  It doesn't matter what you wear or where you go, as long as there are creeps like Donald Trump in this world who believe they have the right to put their hands on your body without invitation.

I second your invitation @Cartmann99.  I have to avoid the verbal diarrhea Agent Orange's and his supporters put out 24x7x365/66 otherwise I'd probably punch a hole in a wall by now.

You would think some of these women would know better but I guess they're so blinded by hatred that its rotted away their souls.

[Howl]

Trump is quite familiar with being sued.  His business model is not paying people.  It's easier to make money if you don't pay contractors.  Or employees.  Or your lawyers.  

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During the Atlantic City casino boom in the 1980s, Philadelphia cabinet-builder Edward Friel Jr. landed a $400,000 contract to build the bases for slot machines, registration desks, bars and other cabinets at Harrah's at Trump Plaza.

The family cabinetry business, founded in the 1940s by Edward’s father, finished its work in 1984 and submitted its final bill to the general contractor for the Trump Organization, the resort’s builder.

Edward’s son, Paul, who was the firm’s accountant, still remembers the amount of that bill more than 30 years later: $83,600. The reason: the money never came. “That began the demise of the Edward J. Friel Company… which has been around since my grandfather,” he said.

Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others.

n addition to the lawsuits, the review found more than 200 mechanic’s liens — filed by contractors and employees against Trump, his companies or his properties claiming they were owed money for their work — since the 1980s. The liens range from a $75,000 claim by a Plainview, N.Y., air conditioning and heating company to a $1 million claim from the president of a New York City real estate banking firm. On just one project, Trump’s Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, records released by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1990 show that at least 253 subcontractors weren’t paid in full or on time, including workers who installed walls, chandeliers and plumbing.

full text of USA TODAY article Trump doesn’t pay his bills here

DH is a CPA.  He says he's seen Trump's type of sleazy, cheating, dishonest business personality more than once and it's easy to recognize.  They cheat and lie with abandon without realizing that the sleaze is apparent to everyone but them. 

I have a little frisson of excitement when I think about how the Trump brand will continue to tank after his defeat.  The Trump brand will be radioactive like Lance Armstrong after his cheating confession. 

[Mecca]

1 hour ago, 47of74 said:

I think I said before that if a person supports Agent Orange it tells me everything I need to know about that person.

That's why I'm all for people putting that fuck muppet j--z trumpet's signs in their front yards.  Helps me identify who the neighborhood assholes are.

We have a neighbor down the road that has a shit load of Trump signs in their front yard. Everytime we drive by, I give their front yard a middle finger salute. I admit that is not the most mature thing to do, but I do it. It makes me feel better. 

[apple1]

8 minutes ago, Mecca said:

We have a neighbor down the road that has a shit load of Trump signs in their front yard. Everyone we drive by, I give their front yard a middle finger salute. I admit that is not the most mature thing to do, but I do it. It makes me feel better. 

My neighborhood had a very few days with a LOT of Trump signs. In fairness to my neighbors, however, about 90% of the signs quickly disappeared. It seems that the signs were placed by some elect-Trump group, and my neighbors were not asked first before the signs were placed. (I do live in a VERY pro-Republican area, but still...) I took some pleasure in how quickly the signs disappeared.

[Mecca]

Trump adviser, Tana Goertz, said that she has a teenage daughter and she is comfortable with allowing her teenage daughter to be around Donald Trump and will continue to all allow her to be around him like she already does. She is saying the woman coming forward are all lying. The hell..... I am also freaking sick and tired of Trump advisers trying to deflect with the line, "Let's talk about policy and things of importance." First off, sexual assault is an issue and needs to be discussed. Second, since when has Trump ever talked about policy? He is too busy acting like he has rabies. 

I just can't deal with women that claim to be educated excusing Trump's bull for some airtime and cash. It is sad. 

[Hera]

25 more days, you guys.  Then this will all be over and we can begin the next phase of Seriously? The GOP Nominated Trump?!!? which will be lawsuits, claims of rigged elections, blah, blah, blah.  Hopefully at that point, the media will just ignore the Orange Anus in his entirety.  It's amazing the level of damage one self-centered human can do to an entire nation's sense of decency, humanity and self.  

 

[apple1]

5 minutes ago, Hera said:

25 more days, you guys.  Then this will all be over and we can begin the next phase of Seriously? The GOP Nominated Trump?!!? which will be lawsuits, claims of rigged elections, blah, blah, blah.  Hopefully at that point, the media will just ignore the Orange Anus in his entirety.  It's amazing the level of damage one self-centered human can do to an entire nation's sense of decency, humanity and self.  

 

He has done an incredible amount of harm to this nation.

[Hera]

3 minutes ago, apple1 said:

He has done an incredible amount of harm to this nation.

And nothing happens in a vacuum. 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37662899

As relieved as I will be to have this election over with, I do fear what the Trumpsters' reaction will be to his loss.

[Ali]

1 hour ago, Mecca said:

We have a neighbor down the road that has a shit load of Trump signs in their front yard. Everytime we drive by, I give their front yard a middle finger salute. I admit that is not the most mature thing to do, but I do it. It makes me feel better. 

A house across the street from my daughter's school has a yard full of Trump signs. I am relieved she rides the bus.

[Miranda]

1 hour ago, apple1 said:

My neighborhood had a very few days with a LOT of Trump signs. In fairness to my neighbors, however, about 90% of the signs quickly disappeared. It seems that the signs were placed by some elect-Trump group, and my neighbors were not asked first before the signs were placed. (I do live in a VERY pro-Republican area, but still...) I took some pleasure in how quickly the signs disappeared.

Consent is for liberals! Just ask Rush Limbaugh.

Highlights for those who don't want to click and see his picture.

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"You know what the magic word, the only thing that matters in American sexual mores today is? One thing," the conservative commentator said, according to audio released by Media Matters for America. "You can do anything — the left will promote and understand and tolerate anything — as long as there is one element. Do you know what it is? Consent.

"If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it's perfectly fine. Whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there's no consent in part of the equation, then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left."

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In 2014, Limbaugh expressed frustration about the definition of consent.

"How many of you guys, in your own experience with women, have learned that ‘no’ means ‘yes’ if you know how to spot it?" he said on his radio show, according to the Huffington Post. In modern times, Limbaugh said, "that is simply, that's not tolerated. People aren't even going to try to understand that one. I mean, it used to be used as a cliche. It used to be part of the advice young boys were given.

"See, that's what we've got to change. We have got to reprogram the way we raise young men. ... Are these not lawsuits just waiting to happen?"

Revolting. I honestly don't know how anyone defends this and don't understand how this man is still on the air.