Kelly Bradrick life flighted to hospital - MERGE

[fundiefan1]

Kelly has a recent Facebook post in which she thanks God for being alive. When I looked in the comments, I saw that she posted that she started hemorrhaging a few days ago and had to be life flighted to a hospital. The MDs found retained pieces of placenta that were causing the hemorrhage. So, a couple things: 1) Could this complication be caused by having four children, basically one right after the other, in fewer than five years? 2) She had this last baby in the hospital and still had this complication. What will she do if they tell her to take a break from child bearing? 3) What if this had happened a week or so ago when she was traveling in Italy?

[Guest Anonymous]

That is really, truly, scary. I hope that she will be okay.

[Lillybee]

This happened to me three weeks after the birth of my first baby which was in a hospital so I think it can happen at anytime. It was truly a scary experience.

[tehgoobster]

OMG! That's scary. I'm glad she's okay, though.

[ChunkyBarbie]

That is scary. I am glad she is okay. I hope Ol' Petie takes a moment and realizes how lucky he is not to have lost her and sticks to home a little more. He is a grown man with a family and responsibilities and shouldn't be playing Fundie Adventurer with Dougie in the Amazon jungle. Also, he can be her "help meet" and actually be a real man. Real men help their wives. Real men take care of their families. Dougie and crew make my blood boil.

[mirele]

Kelly has a recent Facebook post in which she thanks God for being alive. When I looked in the comments, I saw that she posted that she started hemorrhaging a few days ago and had to be life flighted to a hospital. The MDs found retained pieces of placenta that were causing the hemorrhage. So, a couple things: 1) Could this complication be caused by having four children, basically one right after the other, in fewer than five years? 2) She had this last baby in the hospital and still had this complication. What will she do if they tell her to take a break from child bearing? 3) What if this had happened a week or so ago when she was traveling in Italy?

In Italy or France, or anywhere in Western Europe, she would have gotten top-notch medical care. And I know from friends who have gotten sick in France, she would have been charged an absurdly reasonable price for the service, since France has teh ebil socialized medicine AND they aren't weird about treating non-citizens.

[treemom]

We talked about this in the Liberty Phillips Normandy pictures thread. I talked about how cheap my evil socialized Canadian healthcare was compared to the exact same thing in the US.

[slh12280]

Saw this on her facebook:

Kelly Bradrick: Three days ago I began hemorrhaging to the point that I was given a 'life flight' to a hospital where I was given a DNC. Lot's of placenta tissue was found. In the Lords sweet kindness to me I am still alive... even though the Doctors didn't think I should be here, God had an amazing plan to show me His care and remind me how much I need Him.

I am so glad that she is okay.

[cjsmom]

The same thing happened to me 4 days post-partum with my son. It was my first pregnancy, and I had a wonderful (Canadian) hospital birth. It was immensely painful and incredibly scary, but right after the procedure (curetage (sp) and a pretty intense IV full of antibiotics), I felt better about an hour after the anesthetic wore off.

I wish her a speedy recovery. From what my OB/GYN told me (the Dr. who delivered my son, as well as nurses on the maternity ward where I was hospitalized), there was nothing that could have prevented or caused the bleeding and infection.

[hermione1975]

In Italy or France, or anywhere in Western Europe, she would have gotten top-notch medical care. And I know from friends who have gotten sick in France, she would have been charged an absurdly reasonable price for the service, since France has teh ebil socialized medicine AND they aren't weird about treating non-citizens.

Which is one of the reasons I am totally stoked about moving to Europe. The government is requiring documentation of our prior medical coverage in the Sates. :roll:

Basically, If we have medical coverage in the states, we wll automatically be covered in Europe.

side note: My dh holds a euro citizenship. This alone, bypasses a lot of "red tape" for us relocating.

[browngrl]

Kelly has a recent Facebook post in which she thanks God for being alive. When I looked in the comments, I saw that she posted that she started hemorrhaging a few days ago and had to be life flighted to a hospital. The MDs found retained pieces of placenta that were causing the hemorrhage. So, a couple things: 1) Could this complication be caused by having four children, basically one right after the other, in fewer than five years? 2) She had this last baby in the hospital and still had this complication. What will she do if they tell her to take a break from child bearing? 3) What if this had happened a week or so ago when she was traveling in Italy?

Many women have retained products of conception. I do ultrasounds for this all the time. So I don't think it is fair to blame retained placentas on a fundamentalist lifestyle. As for medical care in Europe: good, evidence based medicine is actually practiced all over the world. I am sure she would have had excellent care in Europe. From a medical point, I can't see this as a reason not to have more children.

Must have been pretty scary for her and her family. I hope she feels better now.

[Sola]

In Italy or France, or anywhere in Western Europe, she would have gotten top-notch medical care. And I know from friends who have gotten sick in France, she would have been charged an absurdly reasonable price for the service, since France has teh ebil socialized medicine AND they aren't weird about treating non-citizens.

I think we established it happened in the UK. Not 100% sure of that, but going on when she posted about it and Dougie's blog, it looked like she was taken to hospital over here. Socialised medicine eh?

[fundiefan1]

I wasn't implying that she wouldn't have good access to healthcare in Italy. I was just thinking of how I'd feel if I got sick while traveling in a foreign country. If I had a medical complication, I'd feel better if I were closer to the doctors who usually treated me and I knew where the best hospitals were, etc.

Also, I wasn't "blaming" the fundie lifestyle for her complications. I was asking if these complications were more common in women who have had multiple children in very close succession, as she did. Several posters made it clear that this can happen at any time.

[Sola]

I wasn't implying that she wouldn't have good access to healthcare in Italy. I was just thinking of how I'd feel if I got sick while traveling in a foreign country. If I had a medical complication, I'd feel better if I were closer to the doctors who usually treated me and I knew where the best hospitals were, etc.

Also, I wasn't "blaming" the fundie lifestyle for her complications. I was asking if these complications were more common in women who have had multiple children in very close succession, as she did. Several posters made it clear that this can happen at any time.

I'm blaming her fundie lifestyle. Because of her fundie lifestyle she has popped several kids out in a quick succession. She spent much of this last pregnancy running the home and looking after several pre-schoolers on her own because her husband was off on his jollies with Dougie. And finally, because of her lifestyle she couldn't tell her husband and Dougie to 'fuck off' when they suggested she join them on another jolly around Europe TWO WEEKS AFTER SHE GAVE BIRTH.

All those things; the yearly giving birth, the tiredness, the fact that she must do as her husband (and Dougie) wills and the long haul transatlantic flight while she was still in her early post-partum period contributed to her haemorrhage.

[FaustianSlip]

side note: My dh holds a euro citizenship. This alone, bypasses a lot of "red tape" for us relocating.

I don't suppose he has a cute brother, does he?

I lived in Japan for two years, and while some of the local doctors I encountered were, uh, not the greatest, I had surgery in a major hospital in Kobe and was very well taken care of. It was surgery with a general anesthetic and five days in hospital, all for about a thousand bucks. And a chunk of that was just because I opted for a semi-private room! People back home are flabbergasted when I tell them about it. Meanwhile, British friends who come to visit us in the States are pretty much uniformly terrified of getting hit by a bus or something and not receiving care (or receiving it and then getting a million dollar bill). They're totally paranoid about travel insurance (justifiably so, I would say).

But for a couple of hundred miles, and I could be enjoying that free Canadian health care right now. *wistful sigh*

[apple1]

I don't suppose he has a cute brother, does he?

I lived in Japan for two years, and while some of the local doctors I encountered were, uh, not the greatest, I had surgery in a major hospital in Kobe and was very well taken care of. It was surgery with a general anesthetic and five days in hospital, all for about a thousand bucks. And a chunk of that was just because I opted for a semi-private room! People back home are flabbergasted when I tell them about it. Meanwhile, British friends who come to visit us in the States are pretty much uniformly terrified of getting hit by a bus or something and not receiving care (or receiving it and then getting a million dollar bill). They're totally paranoid about travel insurance (justifiably so, I would say).

But for a couple of hundred miles, and I could be enjoying that free Canadian health care right now. *wistful sigh*

1) I live in the US and I am pro-universal health care.

2) That said, don't idealize what Japan has. I have a Japanese sister-in-law who lives in the US with my brother. While on an extended (2 month) visit to her parents in Japan, she identified a lump and was diagnosed with breast cancer. The Japanese system would not treat, saying too large, and sent her home to die. She came back to the US (at my urging), had chemo, radiation, and surgery, and 3 years later is no evidence of disease. This story is scary, and as I live and breathe, the total truth. I could add more detail but choose not to.

[MamaJunebug]

I'm blaming her fundie lifestyle. Because of her fundie lifestyle she has popped several kids out in a quick succession. She spent much of this last pregnancy running the home and looking after several pre-schoolers on her own because her husband was off on his jollies with Dougie. And finally, because of her lifestyle she couldn't tell her husband and Dougie to 'fuck off' when they suggested she join them on another jolly around Europe TWO WEEKS AFTER SHE GAVE BIRTH.

All those things; the yearly giving birth, the tiredness, the fact that she must do as her husband (and Dougie) wills and the long haul transatlantic flight while she was still in her early post-partum period contributed to her haemorrhage.

Sola, I'm glad you said that. No offense to fundiefan1, but consider the response of the FB friend who said the samething had happened to her and her husband had driven 85 mph to get her to care.

Sounds as if this were going to happen whether Kelly had stayed home or not, had 3 nannies to help with the boys or there alone with maybe one SAHD who suddenly could be spared to attend the Wife Of A Great One.

But how much faster would the problem have been detected and how much sooner would Kelly have arrived at medical care?

I blame Peter Bradrick specifically. In one of the VF videos - I think it's Return Of The Daughters - there's a special feature where he talks about looking for "a sturdy girl" to marry. He remembers how impressed he was with Kelly when out for a walk with her and Scott Brown, her father. When they came to a fence that Scott and Peter climbed over, Kelly - rather than wait to be assisted in her long skirt - dropped to the ground and rolled under the fence, got to her feet and continued apace.

That, Peter remembers with pride, was when he saw that Kelly had the marks of "a sturdy girl."

Sounded to me then like, "Looking for good breeding stock." Now, having seen all evidence for his devotion to Doug and Doug's publicity-swollen tours, the words "a sturdy girl" sound like "someone who will service me, bear my children, and then keep out of my way as she keeps my house, homeschools my kids and appears with me when a spousal unit is required."

Very utilitarian. Very heartless-sounding. I'm not saying that Peter wasn't shaken to the core by what happened. I hope he was, any husband and father should be!

But here is more evidence that for these patriarchialists, men are the gender who count; women are support staff to be recruited based on their ability to serve at the will and whim of the men.

Complementarianism, my foot.

[fundiefan1]

My point, based on the posts above, is that these complications can occur in any woman, even those who are delivering their first children. I was not certain if this was the case, so I asked a question. Other posters showed that the complications could happen to anyone.

As to whether I think it's wise to have four kids one right after the other, or to travel two weeks after you've had a kid--no absolutely not. I don't think it's good for the health of the mother or the children. Perhaps that's one reason why the maternal death rate was so high in the 18th and 19th centuries. And the fact that Kelly has all the childcare and housekeeping responsibilities will only compromise her health further.

[MamaJunebug]

fundiefan1, points well made.

Do we know for a fact that Kelly doesn't have help at home? Whoa! That's a sturdy girl, indeedy-dee! :o