Eden Foods: The Hobby Lobby of Organic Food

[GeoBQn]

Eden Foods is suing for exemption from the mandate to cover birth control for its employees on the grounds that hormonal contraception is a "lifestyle drug" which "almost always involve immoral and unnatural practices" and EC "can cause the death of the embryo, which is a person."

Fuck. I live off of their beans.

jezebel.com/organic-eden-foods-isnt-progressive-enough-to-pay-for-472436365

[sparkles]

Good to know. They're off my list. Lots of alternatives out there. I just texted my daughter too, since she prefers to buy organic.

[Conuly]

Well, darnit.

[alchemy]

dang it. Do you know how hard it is to find a nice low-sodium organic canned bean? Eden beans are a staple of my diet.

I suppose I better get off my lazy ass and start making my own beans from scratch.

[Burpies]

Damnit, I love their stuff! They are one of the only companies that doesn't line their cans with BPA :cry:

[Cannelle]

dang it. Do you know how hard it is to find a nice low-sodium organic canned bean? Eden beans are a staple of my diet.

I suppose I better get off my lazy ass and start making my own beans from scratch.

You can cook dried beans in the crockpot. I could never ever master the whole, "Soak it overnight, then boil the beans for exactly 93 minutes, 12 seconds for perfection, and if they're cooked a second over, they become mushy and gross" bit. Dump your legumes in the crockpot, fill it with water so that it covers the beans by at least two inches, cover it, and cook on high. (Or you could cook on low overnight, although I'd probably add more water if I did that, just in case.) I don't buy canned beans anymore. :) (You'll have a boatload of beans, but they freeze well.)

[infooverload]

These damn cheap ass CEO's are really starting to piss me off. Seriously they bitch and moan about paying for birth control, but not a stickin peep for paying for Viagra. News flash Viagra is a lifestyle drug as well.

[Salamander]

Not to mention that paying for birth control is far cheaper than paying for prenatal care, labor and delivery, and postpartum care.

[GeoBQn]

There isn't a single positive comment on their FB page. I wonder if this will lead to a quick turnaround.

[sparkles]

These damn cheap ass CEO's are really starting to piss me off. Seriously they bitch and moan about paying for birth control, but not a stickin peep for paying for Viagra. News flash Viagra is a lifestyle drug as well.

Yes, but if you can't get it up how can you make more BAYBEEZ?!? So Viagra is ordained by god.

[SamuraiKatz]

Hobby Lobby is a little more upfront about who and what they are...Eden hides behind the hippie organic pseudoliberal front...

I've found low sodium canned beans at my local grocery store. Can't remember the name off hand, will look when I get home...not organic or anything.. just beans. :-)

[MyName]

:angry-banghead: Why do companies not understand that they do not get to decide how I live and my reproductive health??

Actually they know that. They are just cheap, selfish dingleberries trying to worm their way out of paying for some insurance...and playing the religion card to do so.

Warning on crock pot beans. I read that crockpots do not reach a high enough temp to kill stuff when you are cooking raw beans and it can make you sick. Never done it personally, but you might want to look it up.

[sparkles]

I use the pressure cooker when I cook dry beans. Definitely slashes the time.

[Wolfie]

Warning on crock pot beans. I read that crockpots do not reach a high enough temp to kill stuff when you are cooking raw beans and it can make you sick. Never done it personally, but you might want to look it up.

Can you find a source? Crock pots can cook meat from raw, there are a lot more things in raw meat that can make you sick than in dried and soaked beans. Besides, all of my crockpots reach a simmer, that us warm enough to kill botulism if held at that temp for 10 minutes.

[Wolfie]

I use the pressure cooker when I cook dry beans. Definitely slashes the time.

I pressure can mine. Saves on time and freezer space.

[MyName]

Can you find a source? Crock pots can cook meat from raw, there are a lot more things in raw meat that can make you sick than in dried and soaked beans. Besides, all of my crockpots reach a simmer, that us warm enough to kill botulism if held at that temp for 10 minutes.

Penn State

http://extension.psu.edu/food/safety/fo ... dney-beans

ANSWER - Red Kidney Bean Poisoning is an illness caused by a toxic agent, Phytohaemagglutnin (Kidney Bean Lectin). Different types of lectins are found in many species of beans, but are highest in concentration in red kidney beans. The unit of toxin measure is the hemagglutinating unit (hau). Raw kidney beans contain from 20,000 to 70,000 hau, while fully cooked beans contain from 200 to 400 hau. White kidney beans, another variety of Phaseolus vulgaris, contain about one-third the amount of toxin as the red variety; broad beans (Vicia faba) contain 5 to 10% the amount that red kidney beans contain.

As few as 4 or 5 kidney beans can bring on symptoms within 1 to 3 hours. Symptoms include extreme nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. Some persons have been hospitalized, but recovery usually occurs about 3 - 4 hours after symptoms appear.

Lectins are inactivated with cooking so fully cooked or canned kidney beans are safe to eat. Undercooking may actually increase lectin activity and increase the hazard. This could be a problem when using slow cookers (crock-pots) if time/temperature conditions are not adequate to fully cook the beans. Therefore, when kidney beans are called for in slow cooker recipes, make sure you use only fully pre-cooked or canned beans rather than raw beans.

Probably just depends on your crockpot. Like I said, I've never done it that way, but am crazy paranoid about food poisoning issues. :cray-cray:

[GeoBQn]

The slow cooker books I've read had that warning not to cook raw kidney beans, but it's not a problem for other types of beans.

[Arete]

There is an organic brand called "Ezekiel (verse something)" that slaps bible verses on it's pasta boxes. Sad, but hippies and some fundies really do intersect in the whole "organic, natural food/living" movement, so you can't assume that just because you get it at a co-op or Whole Foods that you are not lining dominionist pockets. :angry-banghead:

[feministing]

Meh. They're ridiculously overpriced anyway.

[yewchapel]

Cook soaked red kidney beans at a fast boil for 10 minutes, then use them in the crockpot as normal. Boiling them will kill off the toxin. You can use the crockpot as normal for all other kinds of beans.

Obviously, you can also use a pressure cooker - it's a popular method in India so Indian grocery stores will often sell pressure cookers for very good prices.

[Wolfie]

Penn State

http://extension.psu.edu/food/safety/fo ... dney-beans

Probably just depends on your crockpot. Like I said, I've never done it that way, but am crazy paranoid about food poisoning issues. :cray-cray:

Thanks. I am careful, but not at all paranoid about food safety, though I am very careful while canning, and I rarely use kidney beans, so it really doesn't apply to most of the crock pot cooking I do. It appears to only apply to one kind of bean, not all.

[cjsmom]

I rarely use their products unless they're on sale due to their insane price, but I'm really glad that I cook dried beans and freeze in batches when I can. No more convenience for me! Bah. Thank you for posting this. I decide what I do with my uterus, not big business.

[DrPusey]

Thankfully for me, I don't buy Eden products on a regular basis. The grocery disconnect for me was mentioned in a previous comment - it's Whole Foods, sadly. The company isn't raging fundie, but the CEO is a whackjob far-libertarian who has argued that the Affordable Care Act is equivalent to fascism. (here's one link to the story: http://www.nbcnews.com/business/whole-f ... -1B8022914).

I try to shop at the local coop as an alternative, but there are a lot of things that Whole Foods carries that the coop does not. And the WF has the best selection of fruit in town (until the farmers' market gets going).

[Cannelle]

I've never cooked kidney beans in the crockpot. They're my least favorite legume of all, lol. Good to know, though!

[Freyacat]

I really don't think the trying to get out of paying for birth control is some nefarious money saving scheme hiding behind religion. It saves such a tiny amount of money and surely the CFOs of these companies are smart enough to realize that paying for unplanned pregnancies, not to mention fighting lawsuits, doesn't come free. So I think it really and truly is about religious or spiritual beliefs. That doesn't make it right, of course, for the companies' leaders to try to force their beliefs on the employees, but I do think it's likely a reflection of their actual beliefs.

I would boycott Eden if I actually bought any of their stuff to start with, but I don't. I don't do much canned stuff; I live in an area with several good farmers markets, so I buy there and preserve stuff. I do buy soy milk but I think anything but Silk tastes like rancid goat piss, so I don't buy it. So I'll technically "boycott" Eden, but it doesn't make much difference when I didn't buy their stuff to begin with. :|