Amy from ClosedHeartMind is glorifying UK abortion protests

[Guest Anonymous]

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, Amy, but it didn't take long to get pissed off with you, all over again...

http://openmindsandopenhearts.blogspot. ... world.html

If you want to change the world, then get out of your comfort zone and do something concrete and real, instead of sitting behind your computer screen, cheering on the immature twats that are standing outside our Pregnancy Advisory Clinics, making real women's lives even harder.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... anner.html

I've made a donation to the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, in your name, Amy. Happy Christmas, honey.

Now I'm off to bed to wait for Father Christmas, who only turns up once a year, but consistently delivers more than your pathetic idea of a God ever could. :whistle:

[NurseNell]

I really think protesting outside abortion clinics is a waste of time. I don't believe it changes anyone, on either side.

[treemom]

Holy crap. Yeah she blew her second chance with me,,,in even trying to understand other people.

[valsa]

If it weren't for the fact I'd never want to make a woman undergoing an abortion uncomfortable (and that my local PP rarely gets protesters), I've always wished I could be a PP walker while being, like, 8 months pregnant. Frankly, jackasses who protest PP and other abortion providers deserve to have their tiny, empty heads messed with.

I'm not even touching little Ms. I-smiled-at-a-possibly-gay-person-look-how-progressive-I-am. Just confirms she was only here to convert us bitter, stupid women who'd obviously just never heard about how wonderful Jebus is.

[formergothardite]

She is not even clear on her own stand when it comes to abortion. She had to resort to "hmmm" when it came to answering tough questions and even she admitted that perhaps abortion should be legal. Like I told her on that thread, she needs to answer those tough questions and own up to her beliefs, whether it is putting women in jail for murder or admitting a fetus isn't the same as a baby, before she writes anti-abortion crap on her blog.

[Austin]

I just made a donation to PP in your name, Amy. God bless you.

[ilovetchotchkes]

If it weren't for the fact I'd never want to make a woman undergoing an abortion uncomfortable (and that my local PP rarely gets protesters), I've always wished I could be a PP walker while being, like, 8 months pregnant. Frankly, jackasses who protest PP and other abortion providers deserve to have their tiny, empty heads messed with.

I'm not even touching little Ms. I-smiled-at-a-possibly-gay-person-look-how-progressive-I-am. Just confirms she was only here to convert us bitter, stupid women who'd obviously just never heard about how wonderful Jebus is.

I want to do this SO bad come summer, but there are family members I know who protest it and them seeing me..... it would get ugly.

[Witsec7]

:flags-usa: Thanks Amy. I just sent a donation to PP too :dance:

[valsa]

I want to do this SO bad come summer, but there are family members I know who protest it and them seeing me..... it would get ugly.

Maybe they'd fall for the old "love the sinner, hate the sin" line?

[Guest Anonymous]

Amy, please listen to Andy Stephenson and hear the incoherence in his message, before you praise his "world changing" activities.

Seriously, listen and come back to talk it over: http://www.jubilee-church.co.uk/Media/A ... Stephenson

He has some really intelligent things to say :roll: : for example, when challenged by a woman who took issue with him as a man standing outside an abortion clinic, on the basis that he was a man and had no experience of the issues, his response was,

"but what is it about arguments that have genders, genders do not have arguments. I mean, I could have said to her, "Do you have an opinion on rape, because that's a man involved in that, you're a woman, you should....." but, anyway, um...they will attack us personally or just change the subject.

Really Amy, is this how you think the world will be changed? :think:

[ladypuglover]

I want to do this SO bad come summer, but there are family members I know who protest it and them seeing me..... it would get ugly.

Off topic but I was about 7 months pg with son #3 and had my 2 little ones in tow when we came across some protesters outside of the hospital. They were thrilled when I showed up and asked me to help protest as I was proof of pro-life. I thanked them and said no as I was on my way to have an abortion. They freaked out and asked how could I abort my un-born baby. I told them I wasn't aborting my baby but my 2 toddlers as they got on my last nerve that day. They were flabbergasted and the hospital guards were able to safely escort us inside for my prenatal check up.

[NurseNell]

I told them I wasn't aborting my baby but my 2 toddlers as they got on my last nerve that day. They were flabbergasted and the hospital guards were able to safely escort us inside for my prenatal check up.

:o :clap:

[ilovetchotchkes]

Maybe they'd fall for the old "love the sinner, hate the sin" line?

Nope. My aunt's BIG trigger is abortion, like, if you aren't pro-life, you're a murderer or something. Which is funny because she's an amazing, wonderful, caring person otherwise. Maybe I could pull it off at an out of state clinic.

[Arielkay]

On her blog it notes that she is "daughter of the King." Huh, does that make her Princess "Speshul Snowflake" Amy? Yeah, I know what she meant, but that just nauseates me. And that article that she is glorifying - those people are freaks. They are taking a dead baby's body and using it to promote their own agenda. It's sick. Let the poor thing rest in peace - if indeed that's an actual aborted fetus to begin with. You never can tell with those freaks.

[Kaylee]

If it weren't for the fact I'd never want to make a woman undergoing an abortion uncomfortable (and that my local PP rarely gets protesters), I've always wished I could be a PP walker while being, like, 8 months pregnant. Frankly, jackasses who protest PP and other abortion providers deserve to have their tiny, empty heads messed with..

I came really close to this. Not an official escort, but I drove a friend to a clinic and walked in with her to help shield her from protester when I was about 7 1/2 months along. It was one of the things that really started changing my views on abortion. (I blogged about it here: http://www.mamarants.com/2010/01/today-was-rough-all-around.html) I was so pissed off at the protestors. I probably did confuse one or two, because I was wearing a headcovering, frumper and long-sleeved shirt, and Keds with socks (aka the fundie uniform) at the time.

[sassyNoz47]

Its tramatic for a kid to watch the protesters you don't understand whats going on and the posters they carry are disturbing. They used to walk up and down the very busy street in front of a clinic in a town near me. The clinic was most known for being one of few that would do late term abortions, those people had thier toddlers and babies out there to.. it was unsave and we always had to slow down we couldn't avoid seeing it. Worst memories...

On a side note the dr still practiced until just last yr when he was murdered at CHURCH!

[NurseNell]

On a side note the dr still practiced until just last yr when he was murdered at CHURCH!

That was Dr. Tiller, and he was murdered in May 2009, 2 1/2 years ago.

[valsa]

I probably did confuse one or two, because I was wearing a headcovering, frumper and long-sleeved shirt, and Keds with socks (aka the fundie uniform) at the time.

I like to imagine their faces as being something akin to a dog whose owner has called the house and is speaking to them via an answering machine. Puzzled head-tilting galore.

[sassyNoz47]

That was Dr. Tiller, and he was murdered in May 2009, 2 1/2 years ago.

your right i went to check my dates because i realized it had been longer then i thought.. u beat me back though ;)

[Rachel333]

My mom has a friend who stands outside our city's Planned Parenthood. They do silent protests; I guess they just stand around and pray silently. That's better than yelling at the women entering, but still seems like it could be really creepy and upsetting. The stupid thing is our PP doesn't even do abortions.

[valsa]

Our local PP doesn't do abortions either, so they don't get many protesters. However, our local Right To Life organization likes to do a "Chain of Life" a couple times a year. For about a mile or so, starting at the local PP, people line the sidewalk carrying anti-abortion signs. Pisses me off because every time I see them I think "Oh! Are we having a parade?!", then I'm disappointed that it's just the anti-choice idiots.

[browngrl]

Luckily she will only be sharing her "pearls" of wisdom two days a week. Apparently she needs more boundaries.

" I need boundries in my life and writing only on Tuesday and Thursday nights when my hubby is not home is one change I am willing to make for at least the start of 2012!"

[OnceModestTwiceShy]

When I worked at a pro-choice org that was housed within a PP building in my early twenties (it was the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, actually), there was a very old woman who would kneel at the side of the clinic every day and pray her rosary. For some reason that got under my skin even worse than the screaming protestors because there seemed to be something so condescending about it. At the same time, she was very elderly, and seemed genuinely heartbroken that there were "babies" being "murdered", so I wound up just feeling bad for her. At the same time, there was also a core group of protestors (about 3 or 4, on a good day) who were always outside with the hideous signs. They saw me three times a week, and three times a week they tried to stop me from going in and "going through with it". Did they really think I was getting three abortions a week??? Lol.

[Sola]

The 'problem' (and I say problem, to me it isn't a problem) with the UK for abortion protesters is twofold.

First off we don't have freedom of speech. I know! That sounds terrible! In reality it isn't. We can say what the fuck we like, I can even say, 'I hate the royal family and I think they should go the Romanov way!' in front of Buckingham palace and nobody will give a shit.

What we cannot do is harass people. Nor can we incite violence, traumatise people, or call for the bombing of abortion clinics. Sometimes we are just too damn nice :D

The second problem is that most abortions are carried out on the NHS, and more importantly, IN a NHS hospital day surgery unit. Now you try and stand outside one of those, displaying your gruesome and inaccurate posters and you will get short shrift by security.

Some areas of the UK do have private abortion services which are contracted by the NHS. These are mostly BPAS and Marie Stopes clinics. Most of them are in the south of the UK too, which traditionally is a conservative stronghold. Which coincidentally is where most of what little protesting is going on. In the north if you need an abortion, the chances are you will be referred to the NHS Early Pregnancy service.

Honestly, I cannot see abortion protesting take off here. Abortion rights are entrenched in the UK psyche.

[treemom]

That was Dr. Tiller, and he was murdered in May 2009, 2 1/2 years ago.

I have said this before, but dr tiller was my doctor...and my greatest fear, my biggest anxiety is that these protesters who march there every day would commit violence while I was there and expose the fact I had terminated to everyone in the world. Or the violence would prevent me from terminating.

That is why I think I need to be completely out about it.