NieNie's not so charming husband

[lilwriter85]

I missed this drama earlier. NieNie posted the following pic on Instagram and some shit went down and Christian jumped into defend Nie.

Here's Christian's comment which has now been deleted, but a GOMI poster copied it.

christiannielson For all those "traditionalist-haters" out there…be careful how you talk about my wife and our children. @nieniedialogues is an extraordinary woman, wife and mother. I know. It's only natural (and right) for her to foster those same wholesome patterns in our home. And she does an amazing/unselfish job at it…and she's right.

Other comments seemed to have been deleted and Nie's fangirls have said they have been reporting the haters to Instagram.

http://web.stagram.com/p/365277331340542579_7940911

I wish I had checked Nie's IG sooner. Her IG is full of snark material.

[lilwriter85]

NieNie just had gallbladder surgery and is in the hospital. Her "speshul snowflake" husband Christian posted this on iG

[ @ ] christiannielson I'm going to punch the next nurse who thinks they are a phlebotomist prodigy. My lady is a difficult draw. 2d

web.stagram.com/n/christiannielson/

Christian, I'm sure the nurses are doing the best they can. You are an asshole to threaten violence, no wonder your son Nicholas tackled a classmate who said that NieNie looked funny.

Also a Nie leghumper posted this in response

[ @ ] leslie_ruth Don't mess with the Nielsons! You guys have some power (and a whole lotta backup). Sending prayers! 2d

Wow, I didn't know the Nielsons had so much power. I guess surviving a plane crash gives the Nielsons to be assholes.

[cjsmom]

That attitude is just uncalled for.

I have low blood pressure and really crappy veins - at the best of times, it's hard for nurses to get blood drawn, or an IV in. Add lying there on morphine when I was waiting for emergency gallbladder surgery, with no caffeine, and my veins were so not cooperating. It took about half an hour and three nurses to get bloodwork done, but I did my part and was making fists as best I could and apologizing for being such a pain for them. The idea that they are responsible? Healthcare professionals are worth their weight in gold.

I could never imagine threatening violence upon any one of them. I hope Nienie recovers quickly, so the staff can be rid of her and Christian.

[lilwriter85]

That attitude is just uncalled for.

I have low blood pressure and really crappy veins - at the best of times, it's hard for nurses to get blood drawn, or an IV in. Add lying there on morphine when I was waiting for emergency gallbladder surgery, with no caffeine, and my veins were so not cooperating. It took about half an hour and three nurses to get bloodwork done, but I did my part and was making fists as best I could and apologizing for being such a pain for them. The idea that they are responsible? Healthcare professionals are worth their weight in gold.

I could never imagine threatening violence upon any one of them. I hope Nienie recovers quickly, so the staff can be rid of her and Christian.

I'm sure the staff is hoping for the same thing. I have to wonder if people in Prove are sick of the Nielsons and their whole "we are celebs" attitude.

[FreeJosie]

Wow, isn't he charming? :roll:

[YPestis]

Is it a good idea to publicly deride the people caring for his wife? If he has an issue with the nursing staff, then tell someone at the hospital. Otherwise, he just looks like a douche.

[already hungover]

I think "Mr. Nielson" would get along well with Nathan Lawrenson. Too bad he's an ebil Joseph Smith worshipper and Nate would never go for it.

[mockingbird]

I can understand his (and probably NieNie's) frustration as I also have bad veins. I went through 5 IVs the last time I was in the hospital (4 days) because I kept failing them. If you do not listen to me about which vein works (there is ONE), if you "dig around" for more than a few seconds instead of pulling the needle out and trying again, if in response to my "warning" you flat out tell me "I'm bad at IVs" but try to stick me anyway instead of going to find someone who is more experienced, I am going to be pissed off because you are causing me more pain than is necessary and refusing to listen to me, who knows her body better than a random ER nurse/medic/phlebotomist. (At my hospital, I have my own phlebotomist who won't let anyone else draw my blood. LOL Also FTR this is not a slight against *all* ER nurses/medics/phlebotomists. I have had many positive experiences too! But I am just saying it is a source of frustration I can relate to.)

HOWEVER!! I agree with YPestis, it's not appropriate for twitter, and it is not appropriate to threaten violence. If he has a legitimate complaint he should talk to the nurse manager or the hospital ombudsman. If your complaint is not addressed by the hospital, THEN I would go public, but in a more diplomatic matter instead of saying you want to punch a nurse.

[Claddagh]

I've got deep veins so it can really be a pain to draw blood from me. I can understand the fustration but that's not an excuse to threaten violence. That could also cause a nasty backlash against NieNie's husband if someone at the hospital sees it. Security guards don't take too kindly to threats of violence in a hospital.

[OkToBeTakei]

I would probably have a lot of sympathy. But. She already mentioned it would be a problem on her blog. So she is a self fulfilling prophecy seeking sympathy. She is well aware as a burn victim it is going to be an issue. Is the pain of her gall bladder worse? Is it worth being stuck a few times. Or is it just a way to make an already shitty situation worse?

She will love Mr Nie being so manly on twitter.

My chap would just want me to feel better and so would I. I would try to minimise the pain to see the better end result. He would support me and the staff in a difficult situation. I would think he was a twat posting it on twitter rather than just you know..dealing with it the best way you and your other can.

[lilwriter85]

I think "Mr. Nielson" would get along well with Nathan Lawrenson. Too bad he's an ebil Joseph Smith worshipper and Nate would never go for it.

They are a lot alike, though I don't think Nielson whines as much as Nate does. Nielson does have a very entitled attitude about things. Nielson got into a fight with people on NieNie's IG a couple of months back. He called some of the NieNie haters, "non-traditionalists or something. Comments were deleted and I didn't some the deleted stuff. There are some things about Mr. Nielson that really bug me. Every once in awhile, he will try to act like NieNie is better condition than she is. I'm pretty sure the Nielsons read GOMI because last summer one person wondered about Nie handling guns because on the blog she mentioned having trouble bathing the baby. Later on, Christian posted IG pics of NieNie at a shooting range and he said something like "She knows how to handle guns". With Nate Lawrenson, he is pretty honest about Tricia's condition. I'm not a huge Nate fan, but he doesn't act like everything is shiny happy rainbows.

[lilwriter85]

I've got deep veins so it can really be a pain to draw blood from me. I can understand the fustration but that's not an excuse to threaten violence. That could also cause a nasty backlash against NieNie's husband if someone at the hospital sees it. Security guards don't take too kindly to threats of violence in a hospital.

I wouldn't be surprised if somebody at the hospital already knows. The are too well known in Provo and the blog and IG accounts are way too easy to find. But it seems Christian and NieNie get away with shit like this all the time. NieNie did a blog posting where she proudly talked about how her son tackled a classmate after the classmate said NieNie looked funny. She even mentioned that her son did that when a teacher wasn't looking. I did wonder if school employees read NieNie's blog or even parents of the other children. It seems that no one called out NieNie on her glee over her son's behavior. I get that her son wanted to defend his mom, but the other boy might have meant malice when he said that NieNie looked funny. Even if the other boy was being mean, Nicholas shouldn't have done that. The Nielsons will eventually get some kind of comeuppance for their attitudes. I sometimes laugh at their leghumpers, those people don't realize how the Nielsons have milked them.

[HeckBound]

I can't abide these two. I wish her the best of health, but every single thing about her life is going be complicated by her vast fields of scar tissue and missing flesh. The nurses can't help that and running them down about it isn't going to help.

Her followers are the sheepiest of sheeple. The Nielsons are grifters.

[chaotic life]

I am an infusion nurse. Needles are our forte. In fact, that is the number ONE criteria for my job. We are considered some of the best of the best and we rank up there with hemodyalsis nurses and oncology nurses for getting those needles in and if possible getting them the first time.

Sometimes you cannot get an IV, no matter how skilled you are. Some people and some circumstances make it hard to get an IV. We do the best we can, but even our nurse who did eight years as a plebotomist before becoming a nurse can run into veins that WILL NOT cooperate.

We feel HORRIBLE when we can't get an IV started. We will try EVERY trick in the book. We will call in other nurses we know are terrific sticks. We will warm body parts. We will use our vein light to find a vein. We will most definitely apologize when it doesn't work. However, you threaten physical violence over something that at the end of the day you cannot always control and I would call security and have you escorted OUT.

Of course, if Mr. Nielson wants to be so violent in his threats, I supposed someone could offer his darling wife the FAIL SAFE option. I'm sure an eager resident just dying to use the drill and insert an IO line can be found if promising to NEVER miss the veins is more important than common curtesy to Mr. Nielson.

[mockingbird]

Of course, if Mr. Nielson wants to be so violent in his threats, I supposed someone could offer his darling wife the FAIL SAFE option. I'm sure an eager resident just dying to use the drill and insert an IO line can be found if promising to NEVER miss the veins is more important than common curtesy to Mr. Nielson.

LOL :twisted:

I also wanted to add that I understand that I might not have an IV placed in me, or even the needle for drawing blood, the first time around. I would never want to stick myself, if I were the nurse. I only get annoyed with the person trying to do so, if they don't listen to me/try to work with me.

The children's hospital I shadow at has an "infusion team" that travels around to anyone who is a hard stick, or even just afraid of IVs. I wish my children's hospital had had that!

[lilwriter85]

I can't abide these two. I wish her the best of health, but every single thing about her life is going be complicated by her vast fields of scar tissue and missing flesh. The nurses can't help that and running them down about it isn't going to help.

Her followers are the sheepiest of sheeple. The Nielsons are grifters.

I agree with you on her followers. They will white knight her any chance they get and they will never realize that the Nielsons are grifters.

[Beammeup]

I'm a horrible draw as well. I don't threaten violence, but I get mighty cranky and you get 2 tries then someone else needs a turn.

Getting the IV in (and then starting a new one later when it got knocked out) was the absolute worst part of little Beammeup #2's birth via CS. I absolutely bitched on twitter and Facebook, but I didn't threaten violence. I even posted a pic of my horribly bruised arms.

Some people think violence is funny. I don't.

[fundiefun]

What a damn whiner I was stuck over 10 times in Italy one summer for them to try and find a vein in my arm when in for pain which later was endometriosis. I was in so much pain that the needle sticking wasn't so bad, but after the 10th time I called it quits these two are in for some serious karma down the road something tells me.

[GodsKnickers]

I'm a hard stick as well, more so for IVs. Please do listen to me when I tell you that the only place you're going to get an IV in me, is on the side of my wrist. I have only ever once got really pissy with a nurse and I think he deserved it. He blew 4 veins on my hands and it hurt like hell. Why did he keep blowing them? Because he kept turning to watch the TV that was on. I hate IVs so I wasn't looking at him when he was trying - I had my eyes scrunched closed and my head turned. By the fourth time, I happened to look over and he was trying to stick me and watch TV at the same time. I might have told him to get out of my room and find me someone that wasn't a dumbass, or I'd take all his sharp pointy things in his basket and turn him into a porcupine and see how he liked it. I've never had a nurse like that since - hadn't had one before that either, thank hell. He's the only one I've ever had, that I think deserved a threat. Between my daughter and I, we've met many nurses over the years, and generally, they're pretty good. A few stinkers here and there. But this guy took the cake and then some. He got in shit from the charge nurse after I sent him out and they saw my hands.

My daughter is worse than I am, for IVs and blood draws. She has a lot of valves and her veins are tiny and rolly and she dehydrates pretty quick when she's not feeling well, which doesn't help either. She will straight up tell them which part of her arm to try for and if they listen to her, it's rare that they have to try a second time.

This guy sounds pleasant.

[mockingbird]

I'm a hard stick as well, more so for IVs. Please do listen to me when I tell you that the only place you're going to get an IV in me, is on the side of my wrist. I have only ever once got really pissy with a nurse and I think he deserved it. He blew 4 veins on my hands and it hurt like hell. Why did he keep blowing them? Because he kept turning to watch the TV that was on. I hate IVs so I wasn't looking at him when he was trying - I had my eyes scrunched closed and my head turned. By the fourth time, I happened to look over and he was trying to stick me and watch TV at the same time. I might have told him to get out of my room and find me someone that wasn't a dumbass, or I'd take all his sharp pointy things in his basket and turn him into a porcupine and see how he liked it. I've never had a nurse like that since - hadn't had one before that either, thank hell. He's the only one I've ever had, that I think deserved a threat. Between my daughter and I, we've met many nurses over the years, and generally, they're pretty good. A few stinkers here and there. But this guy took the cake and then some. He got in shit from the charge nurse after I sent him out and they saw my hands.

I am really sympathetic, but this post also made me laugh because of how ridiculous the nurse was... how are you supposed to find a vein if you don't look at it? LOL :lol:

I just have a lot of problems with me pointing to the one good site (which is crappy at best) and people being like, no, it doesn't look good. Usually a quick check at the non-existent other sites will confirm what I said but I have had to get pretty assertive about "try here first". Although I did have some nurse once, who was "bad at IVs", ask me if I knew I had bad veins why didn't I just get a port? Um, because I can know I have bad veins without being stuck frequently enough to warrant one... It was just kind-of a weird question.

I also bruise easily from needles which means you can't draw from that site again for a few days-month depending on how bad it was. Luckily, I do not need frequent blood tests. It goes for shots too - after the chicken pox vaccine I had a bruise that covered my entire thigh, which I thought was pretty cool. haha

Speaking of, did you all know there is an indie band named Bad Veins? My sister went to their concert a few weeks ago. haha

[hywelis]

If you do not listen to me about which vein works (there is ONE), if you "dig around" for more than a few seconds instead of pulling the needle out and trying again, if in response to my "warning" you flat out tell me "I'm bad at IVs" but try to stick me anyway instead of going to find someone who is more experienced, I am going to be pissed off because you are causing me more pain than is necessary and refusing to listen to me, who knows her body better than a random ER nurse/medic/phlebotomist.

This. While it's not appropriate to threaten violence, there are tons and tons of nurses (we don't have phlebotomists where I live, nurses do blood draws) who need to learn proper technique *and* manners and who should not be allowed near patients.

Also, if someone "is bad at IVs", then they should reconsider their career choices. It's not ok to cause a person more pain than necessary, and too many health professionals, in my experience, have a casual attitude about pain, as long as it's other people feeling it.

Hywelis

[nokidsmom]

The last time I had a blood draw, I insisted that they take it from veins in my wrists. Have tons of them and they don't disappear as opposed to the ones on my arm. The only thing is that they have to use a different needle that has a butterfly flap (not sure the official name) and tubing instead of a syringe. They don't like to do it but tough. I have had far to many bad draws from my arms and actually will get sick to my stomach when they keep on sticking me to no avail.

[chopstix]

Wow. He is quite the example of what grace should look like.

/sarcasm

[chaotic life]

Well I had the joy of being a patient at my own hospital a week ago spedifically for pain issues, waiting for the surgeon to come in on a weekend and remove the kidney stone. The ER was very poor at pain management, which is why I opted to move to a transitional unit before surgery. Other than the ER nurse (and the ARNP and MD were completely different once you got through the nurse), everyone was terrific at honoring my pain.

I am also a tough stick and always tell people to go with the butterfly. I'm the butterfly queen BUT we won't use it for anything we're going to infuse for longer than an hour. I get it. I really do. However, almost ALL of my patients are "tough sticks." It's just the nature of my work. We use the smallest needles possible, do the best we can do, and sometimes you just CANNOT get it.

I actually have a patient coming tomorrow that we had to cancel her medication 1.5 weeks ago because four nurses and 12 sticks did NOT gain IV access on the poor woman. The doctor promised to not send her back until he got a PICC into her....and sent her back anyway. We are NOT happy about this. The good news is that most of our truly hard stick patients are frequent fliers and understand the issues involved. A few of them have choosen to forego a port with the full understanding that 8 sticks to start an IV really is standard for them. We've begged one to get a port. We hate causing that kind of pain, but she refuses. She sees it at giving into her disease and doesn't care that we stick her 8 times every week.

So yeah, I understand the discomfort. I understand tough sticks. I understand rolling veins and pain management and all kinds of other stuff. However, it is still NOT okay to threaten to punch someone in the face for not getting IV access. Telling them to get out when you catch them watching TV instead AND reporting them to their manager--totally fine. Threatening to punch--NOT OKAY.

[Rachel333]

Another difficult draw here. Two weeks ago it took three nurses over an hour to get one tiny vial of blood for testing. I was stuck over 15 times and they ended up getting it through a vein in my foot.

I never get mad at someone having a hard time getting my blood. They always seem more upset about it than I am.