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Pecansforeveryone replied to nomoxian's topic in Non Theists's Media (books, movies, music, etc.)
I recommend Mr. Atheist. He does a lot of advocacy for the LGBT community. I also recommend Shannpn Q who brings a lot of attention to mental health issues. -
It really depends on the definition of "God". If it's the Judeo-Christian God, I'm a de-facto atheist. If it's a more vague concept of God with some personal interest in humanity, I'm a weak atheist. If it's some higher power that could be described as an entity, that has something resembling consciousness, that created, or played a part in creating, the universe, and may or may not have an interest in its inhabitants, I'm probably somewhere between pure agnostic and weak atheist.
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If there’s a scale between De-facto Atheist and Strong Atheist, that’s where I am, and probably closer to Strong. And I say that because the description says “100% sure.” The Christian God, the only one I’m familiar with, doesn’t fit in with what I do know; but at the same time, I’m aware that there’s still a lot that I don’t know.
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Basically , simply put , with the choices given , I would be inclined to say that I am a weak atheist . But , even more accurately , and exactly , I would describe myself as being more of a pure ignostic .
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This is my result . This is really no surprise , as I do currently self identify as being a naturalistic pantheist / religious naturalist { https://www.pantheism.net/natural/ , https://www.pantheism.net/atheism/ , https://www.pantheism.net/agnostic/ , https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_naturalism } P.S. I think that this quiz is even better . http://selectsmart.com/nontheism/ I suppose that the reason why I got deist as my top result , this time , was that I expressed that , although I do not believe in any personal Supreme Being , I do accept the conceptual validity of the " first cause " https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmoved_mover .
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Do you have a Giftmas / Xmas / Generic Winter Holiday Tree (AKA Christmas Tree) ? Post your pics! Here's mine:
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prayawaythefundie replied to prayawaythefundie's topic in Non Theists's General
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Hi there, I‘m new to this club and hope it‘s still alive ? Have any of you non-theists ever been in a relationship with a theist? If yes: Does / did it cause problems sometimes? Do / did you discuss religion in your relationship or is / was it just irrelevant to you? Using the Dawkins scale that was posted in polls and play, how much does / did your own view differ from that of your partner? If no: Would you consider a relationship with a theist or would it be a deal breaker? Or is this completely irrelevant to you when getting to know a potential partner?
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When I clicked there, it sent me here: www.pantheism.net They are selling this book: Elements of Pantheism: A Spirituality of Nature and the Universe by Dr Paul Harrison I can't really find any info on the author, since the name is a common one.
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@nomoxian, I love your avatar! Rufus bless you and keep you as you go to work. Rufus be gracious to you and make his face to shine upon you. I have no interest in celebrating Christmas. My father died suddenly 12 years ago around New Years. I used to be a Christian and worked at a "Christian" eating disorders center. They had a secret Santa that I opted not to participate in. I was given so much shit from these good "Christian" women for not participating. Why?! I didn't stop them from participating or give them crap?! That plus working four years in retail absolutely killed Christmas gift giving and Christmas in general for me. There is also a lot about the idea of Santa watching you when you are sleeping and knows when you are awake that I think is unhealthy and teaches children to be good to get presents rather than for it's own intrinsic value. I still give my nieces Christmas presents because hey they are 4 and 6. I love watching Christmas family vacation though. So quotable. One of my favorite movies, period. Thanks for listening to this rant.
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Easter is coming, which means lots of closed grocery stores (and then lots of chocolate and candy on sale after they reopen) I'm starting a new job, and hopefully I'm going to be able to work next weekend. I don't even care about the extra money from working on a Sunday plus it being a holiday. I just care about my right to work despite it being the only other day than Xmas when all of the "Christians" go to church. The job that it's replacing allows me lots of flexibility. I don't get extra money for working nights or holidays, but I prefer those times... except for today. About to work now!
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I think Hugo and Jake just made that their official YT name because the algorythm doesn't like so-called-controversial things. Kinda like why some other users will write "k1ll" instead of "kill" in titles. Last I saw, their Pateron still said Bible Reloaded.
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Pecansforeveryone replied to nomoxian's topic in Non Theists's Media (books, movies, music, etc.)
I also like the Bible Re-loaded. I think they are now going by Hugo and Jake. I love Seth Anderson of The Thinking Atheist. He has a very religious upbringing and very religious young adult life so I really relate to that. I also like the Emperor Atheist. He's a black atheist who also left behind a religious up-bringing and makes thought provoking videos. I also like Say Goodnite Kevin, a Christian who reviews and snarks on trash Like God's Not Dead. He's funny, thoughtful, and fair-minded. I genuinely enjoy his reviews. -
Interesting club. I decided to join, despite the fact I don't define myself as a atheist. I would consider myself a real agnostic. I tried often to think about the possibility of a divine power and my mind keeps juggling back and forth. To this day I feel so ambivalent, which is why I'm trying to accept the fact I will never truly know. So I live my everyday life trying to accept the fact that my questions won't be answered. Often I feel like I have neither of two opposing positions on faith. I am not a firm advocate of atheism, but I'm not a believer. My own vision of faith and spirituality is hard to explain and I'm not even certain I know what it is yet. Strangely even if I consider myself agnostic, I have a strong respect of other people's faith. I also try to differenciate faith, spirituality and religion as much as I can. I am certainly not a religious person and it holds no place in my everyday life. But faith is something else. It means something different to each individual and is more personal. Anywho... I hope I will be able to talk with other free spirits on here.
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We do celebrate Halloween although my husband didn't want our kids to dress up as anything scary when they were little. My husband will be out of the country on Thanksgiving so we may get to skip "Grace". I do celebrate Christmas, but skip the religious stuff as much as I can. One of my favorite holiday albums is Jimmy Buffett's Christmas album which has not a single religious song on it. Another is Rod Stewart's which has just a couple: Silent Night and We Three Kings. (We Three Kings always reminds me of how we sand it as kids: We three kings of orient are, trying to smoke a loaded cigar.) There are a couple of movies they show on TCM which I do love even if they do have some religious context: 3 Godfathers, about 3 bank robbers who find a newborn babe and his dying mother just before Christmas, and Star in the Night, a short set in a desert motel which is a retelling of the nativity. It was legendary director Don Siegel's directorial debut. Hallmark Movies and Mysteries started showing movies about Christmas "miracles" a few days before Halloween. No thank you! I have my dad's collection of window candles and like to put them up because they remind me of him and my mom, too. And if I can manage it (and there's nothing I'd rather watch on TCM right then), I'll listen to the public radio broadcast of A Festival on Nine Lessons and Carols from King's College, Cambridge on Christmas Eve. Yes, it's religious, but it's also very traditional. My youngest daughter and I like to celebrate Festivus. I don't think that I could get away with putting up a Festivus pole, but she could. Speaking of Festivus, No Evil Foods calls their vegan non-turkey the "Feast of Strength". Sounds like a good way to celebrate for us non-theist vegetarians.
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Winter is coming - and so are a bunch of holidays. Some, like Halloween, are secular (or anti-religious, depending on who you ask) Others, like Christmas, have religious origins (Pagan or Christian, depending on who you ask) but have become secularized for many. What holidays do you celebrate? How do you do it? Or if not, why, and do you do anything else instead?
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So I have been continuing to post on the "Convince Me About Jesus" thread and am trying to recover from severe eyeball rolling strain. Christianity has 3 people to thank for it's spread, and Jesus isn't one of them. The 3 in question would be the Apostle Paul, the Emperor Constantine, and Augustine of Hippo.
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I am leaning towards Strong Atheism as far as the benevolent, intercessory God of Evangelical Christianity. Belief in Spirits, Energy, Force Fields, Invisible Beings with limited powers, Ghosts, etc I would be a Weak Atheist leaning towards De-facto Atheist. 9,000 children starving to death every day kind of kills off a benevolent, omnipotent Deity for me.
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Pecansforeveryone replied to nomoxian's topic in Non Theists's Media (books, movies, music, etc.)
I love the Thinking Atheist with Seth Andrews on You Tube. He was raised fundagelical and had been in Christian radio in his early career. He has a velvet voice. Neil Carter of Godless in Dixie has a great blog. Born and raised fundie Baptist in Mississippi. Became an atheist at close to 40. -
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Where do you fall on the Dawkins Scale? Strong Theist: I do not question the existence of God, I KNOW he exists. De-facto Theist: I cannot know for certain but I strongly believe in God and I live my life on the assumption that he is there. Weak Theist: I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God. Pure Agnostic: God’s existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable. Weak Atheist: I do not know whether God exists but I’m inclined to be skeptical. De-facto Atheist: I cannot know for certain but I think God is very improbable and I live my life under the assumption that he is not there. Strong Atheist: I am 100% sure that there is no God. I am a De-Facto Atheist.
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Lee Strobel's books are so disingenuous and frankly, to me almost cowardly. I know that seems extremely harsh, but I do think it's warranted. He only ever interviews apologists. I am left to conclude that he is simply afraid to face skeptics questions and critical gaze. Either that or he's just to damn lazy to bother interviewing the other side. Neither option says much about his journalistic integrity. Color me unimpressed.
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So the 'Convince me about Jesus' thread in AYTFJ now has someone recommending Lee Strobel's books. *Facepalm* I mean, I don't even know what to say, because I don't want to start a fight. But Lee Strobel? Seriously? Also, can I just tell you how much I hate the whole 'They're smart and educated and they're Christians!!' argument? WOW, NO WAY! Guess what? All kinds of smart and educated people believe all kinds of weird, ignorant, and/or irrational things! I'm so sick of 'He's smart and he went to law school/has a PhD/is a doctor' argument being used in favour of Christianity. That's not how this works! It's totally irrelevant! And Lee Strobel was an effing journalist. He's not even educated in the subject he's trying to defend. sifjkhdkjlfhskfsgkl
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The peppers and onions are not properly caramelized until the smoke alarm goes off. And the yummy fireman show up.· 0 replies
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I started to read Madeline Albright's book "Fascism: A warning". It's haunting to see so many parallels to the US at the start of the movement in Germany that eventually led to WWII.· 3 replies
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