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  1. the comments are really bad it seems Christians take it personally if someone stops being christian and it brings out the christian love in them. Can't be good unless you are a christian of course. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/12/29 ... o-go-back/ As we first reported in December, former Seventh Day Adventist pastor Ryan Bell has spent 2014 exploring a life without God. Initially he posed it as a test of his faith, done after a series of personal setbacks made him question everything. Soon, it became clear that atheism was growing on him. Some had criticized Bell’s “intellectual experiment†as little more than a publicity stunt. A few assumed that he wouldn’t give atheism an honest shake. Those opinions seem to have been blown out of the water this week when Bell officially announced that he would be extending his “year without God†indefinitely. He just found no compelling reason to go back. In an interview on NPR nearing the end of the year, Bell said it was tough leaving the comfort of his religious faith behind, but in the end couldn’t force himself to believe any more. “I’ve looked at the majority of the arguments that I’ve been able to find for the existence of God and on the question of God’s existence or not, I have to say I don’t find there to be a convincing case in my view. “I don’t think that God exists. I think that makes the most sense of the evidence that I have and my experience. But I don’t think that’s necessarily the most interesting thing about me.†This mirrors what he began saying weeks earlier, when the first signs that he was still having doubts began creeping up. Speaking with the LA Times, he once remarked that while both atheism and Christianity have their “obnoxious certainty,†for Bell he didn’t want “boundaries, and religion just feels like a very bounded thing.†But if his decision was personal, the response has been very public – and ugly. As Bo Gardiner documents on his blog Under the Greenwood Tree, Christians aren’t taking the news that they lost one of their own very well. Their reaction has been, well, downright intolerant. On the Christian Post’s story, readers weren’t happy: “This is nothing more than rebellion, and at the expense of many of the rest of us. What selfishness and irresponsibility, no matter what the personal struggle.†“You need the Christian religion (and yes, Christianity is a religion, the true religion) to worship God, and God must be worshiped.†“Those who have entered into a genuine relationship with Christ Jesus are the most loving people.†That last quote seems to be an indignant response to a question Bell said he has recently wrestled with, asking “Why do I need religion to love?†The commenter’s answer: Just because. The readers at Free Republic were even nastier: “What a dirtbag. Sorry, without Christ your ‘good deeds’ are worth *****.†â€Drama queen.†“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light….. Isaiah 5:20.†“He means without submitting to God. But only God is good, so it is impossible without Him. “ “Being good without boundaries. The serpent couldn’t have said it any better.†“No God, no concience… No God, no peace… Now come out of the closet faggot.†“Calling evil good and good evil . . . where have we heard that before, I wonder?†“Next he’ll tell us he’s discovered he’s a transvestite.†“I was wondering if he is dating a male or female.†“Seems as though he is sewing the devils fruits to me.â€
  2. nomoxian

    Dawkins Scale

    Where do you fall on the Dawkins Scale? Strong Theist: I do not question the existence of God, I KNOW he exists. De-facto Theist: I cannot know for certain but I strongly believe in God and I live my life on the assumption that he is there. Weak Theist: I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God. Pure Agnostic: God’s existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable. Weak Atheist: I do not know whether God exists but I’m inclined to be skeptical. De-facto Atheist: I cannot know for certain but I think God is very improbable and I live my life under the assumption that he is not there. Strong Atheist: I am 100% sure that there is no God. I am a De-Facto Atheist.
  3. nomoxian

    Are you...?

    Are You Atheist, Agnostic, Pantheist, Deist, Pagan or what? My results: Atheist / Secular Humanist (100%) Scientific Pantheist (70%) Agnostic Pantheist (67%) Idealist Pantheist (58%) Dualist Pantheist (56%) Deist (45%) Literal Pagan / New Age / Animist (36%) Panentheist More Information (36%) Regular Monotheist (36%) Agnostic (7%)
  4. I hope more atheists, agnostics, non-theists join. I’d love to talk about this stuff. One of the biggest surprises about FJ for me was realizing that the majority of members identify as Christian or religious. I just assumed it would be a forum full of atheists. Anyone else find this upon joining?
  5. singsingsing

    Christian Apologists

    So the 'Convince me about Jesus' thread in AYTFJ now has someone recommending Lee Strobel's books. *Facepalm* I mean, I don't even know what to say, because I don't want to start a fight. But Lee Strobel? Seriously? Also, can I just tell you how much I hate the whole 'They're smart and educated and they're Christians!!' argument? WOW, NO WAY! Guess what? All kinds of smart and educated people believe all kinds of weird, ignorant, and/or irrational things! I'm so sick of 'He's smart and he went to law school/has a PhD/is a doctor' argument being used in favour of Christianity. That's not how this works! It's totally irrelevant! And Lee Strobel was an effing journalist. He's not even educated in the subject he's trying to defend. sifjkhdkjlfhskfsgkl
  6. What are your favourite TV shows or movies with an atheist or agnostic theme, or where a faith group is shown in an anti-theist way? Mine has got to be Moral Orel. I like the moments on Young Sheldon that bring up religion too. I watched Impastor for a while, but it started to get not so funny to me, so I stopped. For movies, I find it hard to find good ones that aren't documentaries, but I like Life of Brian and Orgasmo.
  7. OK, new here and really struggling with finding my way around but think I'm in the right place - Atheist Club? If not, oops. Has anyone else watched Captain Fantastic? Got to say, we loved it. Noam Chomsky day, now there is a concept I can get behind! And secular homeschooling.
  8. This is really difficult typing it all out, just writing the title felt weird. But here we go: I consider myself a liberal atheist. Meaning I do not believe in God, but I don't care what everyone else does or rather, I support liberal religions/people who choose to believe. I'm definitely not agnostic because I think believing that God made the world in seven days is - sorry - bullshit. It always baffled me when I saw supposedly religious people cry at funerals. In my understanding you see them again in heaven and I did notice that at some funerals people were not totally unhappy and the wording of the obituary was also different. Like "the body will be buried vs. the casket will be buried". I was told that those people think that the person is already with God so, they only bury a unimportant shell. Again, I try to explain it, but given that English ins't my mother tongue and the topic makes it extra hard. My personal situation is that once my parents die, as of now, I will be alone. Completely alone, no relatives, no friends. I'm Autistic, so I need a bit more support than other adults and it also explains my lack of social contacts. That situation makes me extremely sad every now and then. Now if I would believe in God, the fact that I loose my parents one day wouldn't be that hard because I would see them again in heaven. (And everyone else.) That thinking sounds child like, I know, but it is what I feel. Adding basic (idiotic?) logic leaves me at needing to start to believe in God/heaven to make me feel better about the future. (I get that finding friends would help as well, but like I said, I think believing is easier than that.) How do you start with a religion? How did you start to believe when you were atheist first? Please be kind, I know that I might sound pretty "dumb" or whatever for religious people. I'm just looking for something to help me.
  9. The new Belfast Lord Mayor is a 28 yr old mum of one who is an atheist. At her installation she didn't ask anyone to say Grace and just had the food served. Apparently some people can't eat without a publically verbalised prayer and were horrified Ah Northern Ireland. So not like the rest of the UK. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/09/04/belfasts-new-atheist-mayor-skipped-grace-at-dinner-and-everyones-freaking-out/
  10. CinderJana

    The Amazing Atheist

    Guys like these give atheists a bad name. My rule is that people's religious beliefs should be respected as all they aren't harmful to or others The Amazing Atheist has long crossed that line. I don't know where to begin with this guy is that hypocritical anti-feminist antisocial-justice antisocial service anti-pretty much anything unless it suits his needs. He shares a lot in common with the other extremists here of course here's a pretty good rundown of his issues. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/TheAmazingAtheist http://www.patheos.com/blogs/camelswithhammers/2012/02/the-amazing-rape-promoting-atheist/
  11. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russian-faces-year-prison-denying-existence-god-n530111 So glad I don't live in Russia!!!
  12. http://godlessmama.com/2016/01/05/ten-contradictions-theists-just-cant-stop-making/ So many good points in this article!!
  13. A look into the thought process of a self described sheltered Christian kid, who is just now gaining access to information via the Internet http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comment ... w_so_many/
  14. http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/05/2 ... val-guide/
  15. CNN recently posted a story about the current attitudes towards atheists. Less than half said they would be fine with a close family member marrying an atheist. This is surprising in some ways but in other ways it's not not surprising at all. It is always a surprise, at first, when I hear that people still hold archaic views. But then when I think about the current state of society in the US, I'm not surprised at all. A very good friend of mine has been all but dis-owned by her parents for dating someone who is agnostic. They tell her she is sinning and displeasing God. It's very sad. I have also known people who think that being a good person is a prerequisite for being a good person. This person has stated that before the Christian missionaries brought their religion to the native populations of Africa and the Americas there was no hint of morals in their society. She said this with no hint of sarcasm. She actually believes it. It would be interesting to see how attitudes have changed on this topic from a generation ago and how it will be a generation from now. http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06/2 ... tstorylink not breaking link because it's CNN.
  16. Honestly, it makes me sad to see people are so unaware of real science and then turning around and teaching it to their children. I'm willing to bet they were never properly informed about evolution and just believed the creation "science" their parents taught them. I feel bad for the kids, seeing as the skit they did, and the other videos on their channel, seem like rehashings of their parents' political and religious beliefs.
  17. In his book, "God, No!" (2011) atheist magician Penn Jillette tells how he was challenged by conservative radio host Glenn Beck to come up with an atheist's version of The Ten Commandments. Here's his list: 1. The highest ideals are human intelligence, creativity and love. Respect these above all. 2. Do not put things or even ideas above other human beings. (Let's scream at each other about Kindle versus iPad, solar versus nuclear, Republican versus Libertarian, Garth Brooks versus Sun Ra— but when your house is on fire, I'll be there to help.) 3. Say what you mean, even when talking to yourself. (What used to be an oath to (G)od is now quite simply respecting yourself.) 4. Put aside some time to rest and think. (If you're religious, that might be the Sabbath; if you're a Vegas magician, that'll be the day with the lowest grosses.) 5. Be there for your family. Love your parents, your partner, and your children. (Love is deeper than honor, and parents matter, but so do spouse and children.) 6. Respect and protect all human life. (Many believe that "Thou shalt not kill" only refers to people in the same tribe. I say it's all human life.) 7. Keep your promises. (If you can't be sexually exclusive to your spouse, don't make that deal.) 8. Don't steal. (This includes magic tricks and jokes — you know who you are!) 9. Don't lie. (You know, unless you're doing magic tricks and it's part of your job. Does that make it OK for politicians, too?) 10. Don't waste too much time wishing, hoping, and being envious; it'll make you bugnutty. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-10-28/penn-jillette-ten-commandments/50978982/1
  18. I can't blame the guy and it is so true. tdhDq5mgkx4
  19. On MSN this morning. http://news.msn.com/world/arab-atheists ... he-shadows
  20. pretty good article. fundamentalists drive people away and lets hope it just gets worse. I think this is why we see so much the manic preaching and gay hate and stuff. these fools are terrified of their hold on people. I say let them squirm. http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/3 ... y-atheism/ about why millennials are leaving Christianity often focus on what churches are doing "wrong." They're anti-gay, anti-women, anti-science, anti-sex-education and anti-doubt, 
to name a few of the most common criticisms. I don't disagree with those critiques, but there's another side to the story. While Christians have played sloppy defense, secular Americans have been showing off some impressive offense, giving young Christians plenty of reasons to lose faith in organized religion. For instance, atheists dominate the Internet, rallying to thriving websites and online communities in lieu of physical meeting spaces. Even a writer for the evangelical magazine Relevant admitted that “While Christianity enjoys a robust online presence, the edge still seems to belong to its unbelievers.†Atheists outnumber Christians on popular discussion forums like Reddit, where subscribers to the atheism section number more than 2 million. The Christianity section is not even 5% of that. The Internet-based Foundation Beyond Belief, which encourages atheists to donate to charitable organizations, just celebrated raising $1 million for worthwhile causes. (Disclosure: I serve on its board of directors.) Moreover, blogs and websites espousing non-religious viewpoints and criticizing Christianity draw tons of Internet traffic these days. For every Christian apologist's argument, it seems, there's an equal and opposite rebuttal to be found online. I call that "Hitchens' Third Law.â€
  21. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/0 ... 93122.html (huffpo doesn't care what we link) I'm an atheist. I have never even thought the phrase "worm food". In fact, the only people I've ever heard use that phrase are Christians talking about atheists. Basically, what they're saying is that atheists aren't capable of empathy or kindness. As if we're just wandering around, grabbing children and saying, "When grandma dies- and she will, real soon- she'll decay and you'll be sad." Um, no. Also, you know what's super annoying as an atheist? Being sick and scared in the hospital and some asshat chaplain wanting to discuss Jesus/Heaven with you.
  22. Why would he assume she was religious? 0LP3Zs_V_BQ
  23. Hard to even know where to start with this one. http://www.examiner.com/article/all-aut ... -of-autism That’s the opinion of Fehmi Kaya, head of the Health and Education Associations for Autistic Children in Adana, Turkey. Autistic children are atheists, he said, “due to a lack of a section for faith in their brains.†From TimeTurk (English edition) 4/22/13: “Autistic children do not know believing in God because they do not have a section of faith in their brains,†Kaya said, according to daily Milliyet. Kaya said the underdevelopment of faith sections in the brain caused autistic children to not believe in God. “That is why they don’t know how to pray, how to believe in God. It is needed to create awareness in these children through methods of therapy.†Kaya added that autistic children should undergo treatment to “create areas of faith in their brain.†Apparently, it’s not the children’s fault. According to Kaya whose degree is in sociology, they are born atheists because of the missing faith section. “Research,†he adds, “says atheism and autistic children are linked. Researchers in the USA and Canada say that atheism is a different form of autism.†A backlash from individuals and autism associations throughout Turkey has caused Kaya to complain that his remarks were taken out of context by news reports. *** On a personal note, my own background leads me to wonder if there’s some truth to at least one of Fehmi Kaya’s claims; the one involving problems wth the brain's "faith sections." You see, I was a believer from a very young age and remained one until suffering a tragic injury (involving experience, reading and thinking) to the faith section of my brain. The injury occurred, I suspect, somewhere between the cerebellum, the pons and the I-Like-Fox-News center (another underdeveloped area in many atheist brains).
  24. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/21/p ... y-display/ Some theists want the right to be open with their faith and have no one complain. Fair enough, but some don't want to extend the same rights to nonbelievers.
  25. This article is rather long, but well worth the read. http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/ ... reats.html The skeptic/political Atheist movement is primarily made up of men, and honestly, even though I hang out on Reddit, I am shocked at how much there are some shocking similarities to the fundies. At skeptic conventions women are groped without consent, telling them they deserve to be raped... it makes me sick.
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