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Apocolypse? Okay. Works for me.


clueliss

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So one of 'those things' rolling around in my often warped, twisted brain lately has been the pondering of Trump as a sign of the apocalypse.  I'm coming at this as someone who used to be rather into eschatology (the study of the end times) (blame Jerry Jenkins/Tim Lahaye and the Left Behind series - which I now consider to be drek for the writing alone).  And over the last 17 years or so I've seen A LOT of finger pointing at various political or religious figures (usually Catholic) being the anti-christ.  George W Bush, Barak Obama, & Pope Benedict all made various lists at one point or another for various reasons.  

And then Trump hit.  And he was elected.  I no longer have my finger on that sort of pulse and have no desire to go looking for that sort of nut job logic.  (I have my own nut job brain for that).  And the thought occurred to me in the last few weeks, hmmm what if Trump is the anti-christ and the religious right (or Pharisees as I think of them these days) may have just given us Satan's minion right into the White House.  

Humor me here.  Because among some people he is a popular figure.  Not here at FJ of course.  He's very divisive.  And he's in bed with Russia - which among the eschatology folks is always a big bonus check mark for any potential Antichrist figure due to scriptural interpretation of the book fo Revelation (and other scripture throughout the Bible).  

So I just pulled up Huffington Post on the interwebs (yes, I should be working, I'm not).  and I find THIS:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/steve-bannon-apocalypse_us_5898f02ee4b040613138a951?

I may have snort laughed.  It might be a good thing that food or liquid was not in my mouth when I saw the article.  There's a video that I'm going to have to go back and watch later when I am not at work.  I'm giving the link only because the article is long.  Bottom line, Bannon thinks that the end is near and is out to save us from the evil Muslims.  I of course and looking at the whole thing thinking that he's in bed with the devils own and handing the keys to the country over to Satan.  But that's me.  

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I have had the same thought about Trump or Bannon fitting the description of the antichrist. I made it to book 8 or 9 of the Left Behind series. How far did you get?

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clueliss

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Until the rapture.  Then they started the prequel thing and I say nope.  

 

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I just pulled "Left Behind" off the shelf. I am going to reread it and look for parallels to current events. I blame you for this.

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clueliss

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Another dandy in that vein is the fiction of Joel Rosenberg.  I stopped reading him after I found too many errors in a novel he wrote.  Spelling/grammar he has enough sales that he should be able to afford a line editor for that.  Sloppy stuff.  

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purple_summer

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4 hours ago, clueliss said:

Until the rapture.  Then they started the prequel thing and I say nope.  

You mean the Glorious Appearing/start of the millennial kingdom? I read all of the adult books and roughly half of the kids books. I stopped somewhere around number 36.... 

I've thought about this a bit (but not too much because panic attacks) and I may or may not have given everyone in the current administration a left behind character equivalent. Truthfully, there are other Christian "end times" series that were much more terrifying so when I see/think  of parallels to them I'm SUPER freaked out.

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clueliss

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Yes, the Glorious Appearing stuff.  I will confess to reading the kids books as an adult.  

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purple_summer

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@clueliss I was a kid when I read everything, I got tired of waiting for the kid's series to finish so I read all of the adults ones instead.

I'm still bitter about Judd and Vicki getting married at the end.

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