Jump to content

In a fairytale world

  • entries
    47
  • comments
    165
  • views
    6,011

You go back to school, it's a bad situation


OnceUponATime

986 views

I'm currently unemployed and finding it hard to get any sort of job (overeducated/language "problems"/not cool enough/born in wrong country/too motivated). I decided that instead of having a massive hole in my CV I would try and find some sort of course to do that would be either fun or useful.

I managed to find a course that is business related and the bonus of being 100% distance learning (which will save me at least 3 hours a day). They marketed it as being designed and adapted specially for distance learning whilst learning exactly the same things taught on campus. Based on that marketing I expected a few things:

  • short videos/audio/graphics of key information
  • a different handbook to regular students (or at least some areas expanded)
  • more than just a textbook that you can buy in the store
  • access to the PowerPoints used in regular classes
  • an active discussion forum

After all the bloody bureaucratic bullshit that seems to come along with signing up for tertiary education I finally got enrolled (although I'm still not 100% sure that is finalized), signed up for a few classes and ordered my textbooks/course material. And wow - talk about lacking. Lets call them course A1, A2, B1, C1 and D1. A2 is a continuation of A1.

For A1 I await a textbook. I have access to some PowerPoints which don't make sense to me. They really need audio - the slides aren't even summaries they are more cases with not explanation. Like if they were doing a lecture on Shakespeare the equivalent would be a slide with a passage out of Romeo and Juliet. Useful for if the lecturer is in front of you talking about it: useless if you were sick that day and couldn't make it to class. I at least get the answers to the questions - I am guessing the questions are in the textbook.

For A2 there is no textbook. I do have a 200+ page document which looks like a badly done summary. It is very concise. I am not a student who likes things too concise. Actually a brief skim makes it look like a document of bullet points.

For B1 there is a textbook that I refuse to buy and a heap of exercises. I actually know most of it (it's computer skills) I just have to learn to navigate the latest system in a different language. But no links to useful websites or any videos on how the exercises are to be done.

For C1 I had to buy a handout which then appears for free on the discussion board (always wait until you can log in online before you buy books apparently). It too reads like someone's course summary. There is very little info - it is mostly diagrams that I struggle to understand and abbreviations that are not explained.. No powerpoints, videos, audio, textbook, further referencing.

For D1 I await a textbook. I also have access to a few slides which are primarily pictures and what is 30 slides should have been about 10. Bonus points here for a FAQ.

 

Pretty much I'm pissed. Don't market your course as being specially designed for distance learning when the only thing I get as a distance learner is a 5 page course overview (first page is how to contact your teacher) which is just a chapter outline (usually teachers give that stuff to everyone here). Discussion forums are ghost towns, some of them have never had a ghost in them (it is the second semester -there should have been some sort of commenting in the first semester). If you like reading you're fucked, if you're an audio learner you're fucked, if you are a visual learner you're also pretty fucked. If you love memorizing lists - well you might do ok. I'm not (and never have been) a list learner. I need context. I learn from patterns, not rote memory.

My initial excitement for finding something to do that would be useful has eroded away. I hope I find it again because I need some way of motivating myself so I can get through my 600ish supposed hours of coursework.

I think SOTDRT would have been better :P

 

I forgot my fairytale.

Once upon a time in a land far away there lived a young maiden who searched for work. Finding herself virtually unemployable she decided to fill her time with useful stuff like learning. Her school was bright and colorful and she learnt a lot. There were powerpoints, gifs, cat pictures, coloring pages, videos and much much more to help her understand her lessons. She was very pleased with this and then found her dream job. She lived happily ever after. The END

 

  • Upvote 3

4 Comments


Recommended Comments

WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo?

Posted

I'm afraid I don't have any constructive advice to offer, only sympathy. I'm sorry, and it sounds incredibly annoying and frustrating. :smiley-signs131:  I hope something improves for you!

  • Upvote 3
Link to comment
Ofglen

Posted (edited)

So sorry! Is there an add/drop period? Can you drop these courses and enroll in other courses? Or is it early enough in the semester that you can drop them all? I would really suggest making an appointment and driving over to the campus to see a dean- find out who your dean would be. There are just some things you have to do in person! Also email the professors with all of your questions!

Also, I believe all the forums are deleted between sections, but I am not sure, as I only ever took one online course.

Edited by Ofglen
  • Upvote 1
Link to comment

I took distance learning courses from a few different schools and didn't encounter problems like this.  Is it possible this school is relatively new to distance learning, and doesn't have the kinks worked out yet?  As for the discussions, are students required to contribute multiple times a week to the discussion forums?  That really helps to get people comfortable and to get into the habit of contributing.  If it's not required, it's likely to stay a ghost town.  Is it possible for you to get a refund and go to a different school, either now or when the next term starts?

Link to comment
OnceUponATime

Posted

@AbandonAllHope

I'm glad my expectations weren't too high then! I was wondering if maybe I just expected way too much and how it is just differed too much.

This is a region where technology in education has not really happened yet. I mean half the lecturers might use powerpoint, but none of them have been educated/trained in using it effectively. They all say that Prezi the most amazing thing in the world but don't dare to use it (I am thankful).

It's also not just lecturer resistance (which surprised me). In class(when I was studying at a physical college) we were discussing the possibility of some lectures being recorded. I was the only student who thought it was a good idea and could be helpful (like if you're sick, can't get to class for some reason outside your control, are studying and confused about your notes). All the rest said 'but then no one would turn up to lectures'. To which I said lots of people don't now anyhow so whats the difference? I guess some of them could only motivate themselves to get to class because otherwise they might miss something.

So yes, it could be just because they have no clue what to do (and no time to implement it well). My bf who is from here thinks it is probably this - I said they shouldn't advertise it as something different then. I also said if lecturers don't have the time they could actually utilize the students to do the work for them. Get a class of animation students together with a theory class. Their graded project is to create short movies that explain important concepts in visual form. Animation class does the animation based on concepts worked out with the theory class who provide the contents. Let the distance learning students give feedback - use them the next year. Problem of time somewhat solved!

I'm actually not sure how many people are enrolled via distance learning. It could be ghost town due to the fact only 5 people do it (and you enroll for the whole year and choose when you do your exams). It's not compulsory to contribute but I did find some questions from october that not even the lecturer had answered.

@Ofglen
 - there is an add/drop period but I'm not completely sure how that works. The biggest problem is this is the only school I found around here that lets me study online/by myself. Any others require at least one or two days a week going to campus (and are just as crappy) which I'm not really prepared to do at this stage. I was hoping due to this school's advertising that they might have their heads in the game but did know going in there was the possibility of it being crap.

@WhatWouldJohnCrichtonDo?

thank you for your sympathy. Maybe it will improve once I get really stuck in. And get past having to 'learn' how to add background color in excel. I find that a highschool skill but anyway.

 

I'm going to stick it out,  I'll just have to find a way to get stuck in and motivated. maybe the textbooks I'm waiting on are top quality (one can dream) and will negate all the rest. I should really find out what journal access I have because I love reading academic journals. I'll probably cry over that selection too though

 

 

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Posts

    • thoughtful

      Posted

      4 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

      I hate completely open concept living. Like a totally open kitchen, living room, and dining room. And then a huge two story living room that’s open to upstairs. Where all the bedrooms are. I always think you must be quiet in a house like that. Because the noise would travel everywhere so easily.

      Having been to people's homes for both piano lessons and dog training, I hate open floor plans. It's such a pleasure to just close a door to contain sound, or to keep puppies from danger with a door or baby gate.

    • JermajestyDuggar

      Posted

      3 minutes ago, Ozlsn said:

      I think this is a spin off of open plan living - you can't just shut a door and hide the mess. The trend here that I find absolutely mindblowing is a bathroom per bedroom - who's cleaning them all??

      I hate completely open concept living. Like a totally open kitchen, living room, and dining room. And then a huge two story living room that’s open to upstairs. Where all the bedrooms are. I always think you must be quiet in a house like that. Because the noise would travel everywhere so easily. Plus like you said, everyone can see your messy kitchen. We only have 2 bathrooms in our house. I can’t imagine having a ton of toilets to clean. I really hate scrubbing toilets. 

      • I Agree 1
    • Ozlsn

      Posted

      3 hours ago, klein_roeschen said:

      I read last year or so that the new trend for kitchens is to have a messy kitchen next door. For the things that make a kitchen messy, like cooking food

      I think this is a spin off of open plan living - you can't just shut a door and hide the mess. The trend here that I find absolutely mindblowing is a bathroom per bedroom - who's cleaning them all??

      • Upvote 1
      • I Agree 1
    • Columbia

      Posted

      John MacArthur is being John MacArthur. The most concerning part of this is that there's a huge nouthetic counseling school run at Masters University.

      The guy sitting next to him staring grimly is Costi Hinn who folded like a wet paper towel when he questioned Doug Wilson about all his sex abuse scandals. One wonders if he might still have a little PTSD from Doug doxxing him.

    • FishOuttaWater

      Posted

      7 hours ago, HeartsAFundie said:

      I admit to being a complete sucker for Tupperware.  We have multiple Tupperware pieces from the 70s to today.    My mom hosted a couple of Tupperware parties when I was little, and I hosted one myself when I was engaged.  I still have all the pieces I bought and earned, and my dad just gave me some tiny versions of the 70s cereal bowls that we had for years.  They are still good and holding up 50 years later.   

      You can buy Tupperware on Amazon now.  No need to host or attend a party to get it.   

       

      And I used to have quite the load of Princess House pieces.  While I gave a lot of it away to family who needed the bazillion plates and glasses that I had, I kept and still often use the Fantasia pattern bakeware items.  Brownies just aren't right if not made in that pan!  

      • Upvote 1


×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.