I’m pretty far left when it comes to social supports.  I believe in the value of UBI in creating safer, healthier, better educated communities.  I think the threshold for disability payments should be lower and I think that rich people should pay a ton in taxes. Bring back the death tax. 
 

But these two confound me.  They don’t seem to feel the need to contribute at all.  And that isn’t how it works.  Relationships need both withdrawals and deposits.  They take a lot of financial withdrawals, but I don’t see evidence of any kind of deposits.  Pie making aside….

Regarding the IG post: They are not describing marriage, they are describing a young couple  first vacation, specially exciting because it's their first sex experience. What they are describing is a very usual experience for non married young people, with the difference that others can break if it's not working, while fundies must stay no matter what.

1 hour ago, TrueRebel1 said:

Shoshanna mocks and threatens people who are asking if she trains her kids according to her parent's teachings -- and the next IG story is Lauren and Shoshanna talking more smack about the comments she received.

Saw that and it's pretty disgusting. Either Shoshanna is really fucking stupid or lying through her gaslighting teeth. Guessing the latter which means she knows exactly what that commenter is talking about. Also going to guess that in fact she has used her parentsʻ methods of repetitive & sustained child beating as well as blanket training. Would like to know if any of this got highlighted in her divorce.

59 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Honestly she’s always been a self centered asshole. So none of this is surprising. She’s one of the many fundie princesses of fundieland. I bet her older sisters secretly resent her. 

The Pearl family dynamics are quite something. Wouldn't surprise me if Shoshanna is the golden child who has always been favored & allowed to do what she wants with no repercussions.

16 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I always figured if there was a Bates Duggar pairing, it would be the younger kids. I think the older kids kind of grew up together in their insular IBLP world and I figured they just weren’t attracted to each other. Because they probably spent as much time together like cousins. But the families don’t seem to spend as much time together as they used to. So I don’t know if all the youngest Bates and Duggar kids feel like they are almost like family. 

Yes, now there's no pressure towards that. TLC pushed for a Duggar-Bates inter-marriage and even edited the show accordingly; whenever John-David was near Erin they milked it. But now, the youngest kids COULD connect in that way. Or maybe even one of the Bates sons with Mackynzie.......Judson is only one year younger. But by then we may never know anyway.

16 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I love hats. I adored putting cute little hats on my boys. They looked so good in hats. 

As a boy mom, I concur 100%!  Gymboree had the best selection of hats.  I still have one that my son absolutely loved.  He called it his "golf hat".   It's navy blue with a wide brim, a green and white band around the middle and a patch in the front that says "Golf Club" with an emblem of crossed clubs.