19 minutes ago, patsymae said:

I don't think it's so much the money or the things they will do, but I do think the Bates women have had a taste of moving in different social circles and they wouldn't want a life under the Jboob/Meech thumb. Like Alyssa (?) may home school and all that but her in-law is in the legislature; Josie (? or is that Katie?) has a husband who is a musician with a certain amount of success and there is travel, etc. Can you see any Duggar daughters or in-laws all dolled up in chic, form-fitting dresses walking through Central Park with Michelle? Even the boutique seems to be a real business and at least one (Josie?) has an actual career. However steeped in the Kool Aid, and even having Erin and Michael as older sisters, I think a younger Bates woman would rather be an Alyssa or a josie/katie (can't keep them straight) or even a Whitney than an Anna Duggar. 

The Duggar family is much more famous than the Bates family. I sometimes forget that because they seem so similar to me. Jill wrote a best selling memoir and was all over the news. This is way different than any Bates daughter. She married to an actual attorney who received a real education, different than any Bates daughter. Jinger lives in LA, also wrote a book, does social media influencing and rubs elbows with Christian conservatives like Candace Cameron  Bure and Mel Gibson, different than any Bates daughter. Jessa and Joy are homeschooling mothers with broods similar to Erin, Alyssa and Tori B. Carlin, Katie and Josie B hustle and work because they want a certain lifestyle that the Duggar women don’t have to work as hard for. And Josie and Carlin will probably have smaller families due to their fertility/health issues. I think the Duggar women have capitalized on their fame while the Bates women have capitalized on their looks. I don’t really see one family as more aspirational than the other.

27 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

That’s Karissa. And I think it’s a big reason why she refuses to do holidays and birthday parties for her kids (besides the money and time). She is honestly frantic in her day to day life. She reminds me of a friend I had with untreated ADHD. I’m not diagnosing. Just saying that’s how disorganized she is. I’m betting she’s left kids at random places many times. And there’s absolutely no way she could get her kids to school every day in time. No way. Everything in their life is disorganized chaos. 

My guess is "disorganized chaos" is the default state of most of the families FJ snarks on. The Maxwells are on one extreme and I'd put the Rods* on the other. Any time I've met people who have four children close in age (4 in 4 or even 4 in 4) it's some semblance of organized chaos. But any more than that (13, anyone?) would be hopeless unless someone were on the Maxwell extreme. Various posters over time have reported that a number of families here (Andersons, Rods, Duggars, etc) are out of control when in public. It's rarely from the families themselves but from people reporting on fundies in the wild  they could be lying but from what I've seen of families with "only" four it's entirely believable. (Ftr the families I've known with four back to back children have actually done really well. But they also didn't have a fifth!)

*I'm not familiar enough to know if the Nogs would be better as the Maxwell opposite or not. I figure Jill's posts and family pix at all hours counts for a lot of chaos. 

I don't see why they need to check luggage.  Everywhere I've flown, I take an overnight bag and rarely ever check baggage.  It not like Artemis is flying to another continent. Ship some things ahead of time.

I also agree with whoever said that they should not have pets if they can't afford their basic needs -- vet visits, food, and litter. 

I doubt their move will stop the grifting. I do not think Artemis can show that they are unable to work at any job and I would be truly astonished if they get qualified for disability.  Not wanting to work does not qualify one for disability benefits.  Laziness is not a disability.

Part 5: Only a Christian Doctor can understand her 🙄

On 5/11/2024 at 7:17 PM, JDuggs said:

I don’t think I can agree with this Bates/Duggar comparison. When looking at the five Bates guys age 21 and older, three of them (Zach, Lawson and Trace) seem to have “careers” based on social media. Nathan B and John D seem to have the exact same careers, aviation/Medicorps, so no advantage to either family there. Jackson B seems to have a steady job in Florida, but his previous employer was actually Jason D. I’ll leave Josh out of since he’s in prison. Joe and Josiah have chosen private lives currently, so I don’t want to speculate on them. Jed, Jeremiah, Jason and James all seem to be running their own businesses probably based on financial support from JB. Justin works for his father-in-law in his business. I don’t really see the Bates guys as more successful or prepared for life than the Duggar guys.

On the B/D women comparison, they all seem pretty similar. Most of them are balancing homeschooling with social media influencing and social media based businesses. The D women have much larger social media followings, so maybe they don’t need to hustle as much as the B women. None of them really lead extravagant lifestyles, but they all appear very comfortable.

I don't think it's so much the money or the things they will do, but I do think the Bates women have had a taste of moving in different social circles and they wouldn't want a life under the Jboob/Meech thumb. Like Alyssa (?) may home school and all that but her in-law is in the legislature; Josie (? or is that Katie?) has a husband who is a musician with a certain amount of success and there is travel, etc. Can you see any Duggar daughters or in-laws all dolled up in chic, form-fitting dresses walking through Central Park with Michelle? Even the boutique seems to be a real business and at least one (Josie?) has an actual career. However steeped in the Kool Aid, and even having Erin and Michael as older sisters, I think a younger Bates woman would rather be an Alyssa or a josie/katie (can't keep them straight) or even a Whitney than an Anna Duggar.