1 hour ago, quiversR4hunting said:

I looked up 2b lymphoma (from her post) https://lymphoma-action.org.uk/about-lymphoma-tests-diagnosis-and-staging/stages-lymphoma

Another article says stage 4 is the death sentence. 2b is treatable with good odds of still being here in 5 years. But they choose woo. 

And I am not shocked the "doctor" upsold them to more treatments. 

I'm just sitting here shaking my head. Like others have said I use some alternative medicine (massage, chiro, melatonin, etc.) But I also use pharmaceuticals for my asthma and BP, surgery (knee and gall bladder). Maybe I should have used light and sound for my gall stones. 🙄

Anna Maxwell did a combo of traditional medicine and woo to treat her breast cancer. Which is fine in my opinion as long as the woo doesn’t interfere. Too bad they didn’t take that route. 

Agree 100% with everyone’s remarks on Gothard’s stance regarding meds for ADHD, PTSD, etc. In mid-life I was hit with severe anxiety due to a health crisis. No amount of journaling, meditating, exercising or praying (at the time I still held Christian beliefs) offered one tiny, single bit of relief. My doctor worked with me to find the right meds to help, and when I started taking it, I literally went from sitting on my sofa shaking to getting up and walking back into my life. I’ve continued on the meds and am pretty sure I probably had untreated anxiety since I was a teenager. My family, including siblings, were of the “tough it out” mentality. They viewed this kind of medicine as a crutch, a sign of weakness, and they ridiculed and criticized it. Nice people, right? 

So, yeah, fuck Gothard. 

I looked up 2b lymphoma (from her post) https://lymphoma-action.org.uk/about-lymphoma-tests-diagnosis-and-staging/stages-lymphoma

Another article says stage 4 is the death sentence. 2b is treatable with good odds of still being here in 5 years. But they choose woo. 

And I am not shocked the "doctor" upsold them to more treatments. 

I'm just sitting here shaking my head. Like others have said I use some alternative medicine (massage, chiro, melatonin, etc.) But I also use pharmaceuticals for my asthma and BP, surgery (knee and gall bladder). Maybe I should have used light and sound for my gall stones. 🙄

The clinic costs $35,000 for their initial stay and another $15,000 for the additional time. And it's allopathic medicine they think is a scam?!

8 hours ago, Howl said:

BUT, if this gives these folks peace of mind and their loved one isn't ravaged by aggressive treatment...it may be the best option for them.

My issue (and anger) here remains directed at the clinic - to me it is unethical to claim that your treatment protocol will reduce or cure the disease without any evidence whatsoever. Yes there is an element of caveat emptor, and hope is a powerful drug to be selling, but pulling out wisdom teeth, taking out fillings - this will do literally nothing for the cancer except allow it to continue to grow while time they could have spent with family, or sorting out affairs or (why not) praying full time for a divine intervention passes. I don't think this will bring peace of mind either in the long term to be honest, particularly if they return to the US and end up needing palliative care (although given the tumour location it sounds like it may cause a catastrophic event, which will at least likely be quick.) I hope the kids are at least there while they're at this clinic.