I always felt sorry for Kelly.  Raised as a Fundie Princess, and then marrying a Fundie Prince who seemed more into what she represented than who she was.  Having kid after kid, getting hauled to Europe when 11 days postpartum after a C-section, and then needing to be flown to the hospital with life-threatening complications because she started walking around in Europe less than two weeks after a c-section.  And then divorce and being quickly married off to someone and dropping off the radar.

I get that she grew up fundie, but at this point I hope she's looked around her life and wondered what, if anything, this bullshit is doing for her life.

2 hours ago, MariaariaM said:

It's a numbing agent, right? Treats a symptom but not the actual issue. Exactly what the crunchy crowd claims real doctors do.

This is what's wild to me! Some are into it because of healthcare costs - which are truly outrageous. But then they'll go and spend $50,000* to feed their egos in their last days. It's infuriating! But yeah, you really showed Them how incompetent they are. 🙄
 

*A Pearl son-in-law is most likely dying of cancer and instead of spending his final days around his children (and grandchildren?) he and his wife have spent $50,000 on non treatments in Mexico. The 50,000 is only to the "clinic" it doesn't include their living expenses during the time. Because they're in a low cost of living area their living expenses are quite low but holy shit! You have issues with medicine but you'll throw down $50,000+ for placebos?!!! (To be fair it does sound like his cancer was probably terminal when he was diagnosed so it's not like there much Big Medicine could've done for him anyway but he could at least be comfortable at home!

So Braggie totally fixed her tooth with coconut oil pulling and some stupid red light therapy box ($629 on Lume). She’s cured! The woo is strong with this idiot. 

Wtf? Michael & Debi* did quite a number on all their daughters! Not that I expected otherwise because of how anusive Michael is but to see Shoshanna's bizarre posts and then to hear about another daughter living off grid in a decidedly not enjoyable way? Their daughters don't seem capable of living in the mainstream. I know that's the point, but damn, even at 40something (?) they're still drenched in this bizarre "other" that's odd even for fundies. 
 

* I'm including Debi here because while Michael groomed her and began sexually abusing her at least by their wedding night, just like Zsu she can be both abused and abuser and I don't want to leave her out. 

8 hours ago, klein_roeschen said:

Are Shalom and her husband the ones who lived years ago in the middle of the desert in a trailer without running water and electricity while having a lot of little kids and fighting the local tribe over water rights? I read her story years ago and nearly got whiplash from all the head shaking.

I got diagnosed with adhd when I was around 25. Mainly because I was struggling with BED. I did not have issues in school because I was lucky that I am smart enough to get through university without studying in the typical way. Learning by doing was enough for me to get through school and get my degree. Only when I was thrown into the adult world and having to manage a fulltime job with personal finances etc. it became too much and I was eating my stress away.

I tried meds but for me it was not the answer. It did help me focus more on what I needed to do but at the end of every day I was so exhausted that it was not worth it. Plus, it also took away the characteristics that actually helped me be so succesfull in my job (creativity, fast thinking, constantly connecting the dots).

I am lucky to now have a job where I can work on my own pace and use my 'flaw' as an advantage. Plus it helps that my husband is supportive. I still stuggle with eating during stressfull times but my therapist then helps me with managing it as much as possible.

I am really grateful that I can manage it this way without meds, for me the acknoledgement that I am not stupid was the biggest win from the diagnosis. But I do feel for people that have more severe issues resulting from the adhd.