3 hours ago, viii said:

When sexually active, it's always a possibility. 

As for c-sections, I don't have very many friends who big families (those who do have lots of kids have had vaginal births), but I know when my mom's friend was having babies in the late 80's/early 90's, her doctor was unimpressed when she got pregnant for the fifth time because he said anything past three sections was dangerous. Whether or not that's true or just his opinion, I'm unsure, but it makes sense to me. You're cutting through a lot of tissue and layers, and things weaken with each delivery. 

my best friend has 5 kids and the last were twins and she delivered them all naturally. 

Paul and Helena Morton are expecting. Due date is 7/29, no gender.

7 hours ago, clueliss said:

James River Church claims Driscoll was trying to destroy their church, wants him to repent

 

https://www.columbiatribune.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2024/04/17/heres-why-james-river-church-is-threatening-to-cut-ties-with-a-pastor-mark-driscoll-john-lindell/73364982007/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0WDPMvwXyXcftrokb6r3FYF4gMy4sk_w9GwbC0Vq7nVnohe6-x7bXDgjU_aem_AdPpR45oWsvJXYP2jGBTRR1REvn9WHz7wM4LNMoIjI4BRMezN9v_8-A3KGCaXbDI_TEYwH3YCieHuld1B5xuw7ZQ

So Lindell is saying it was a publicity stunt by Driscoll without his permission. That tracks. 🍿🍿🍿

48 minutes ago, hoipolloi said:

And of course the unspoken part is: "If you can't do it all like me, YouRʻe dOiNg iT wRonG."

It reminds me of Ballerina Farm. Her life is supposed to be aspirational on instagram but her husband comes from a billionaire family. 

8 hours ago, HereticHick said:

Looks like the nearest hospital to Mountain Grove MO is Texas County Hospital in Houston, MO,  about 30 min. away.

Meanwhile, I wonder how Liz Bontrager feels about 20-year Christian Bowers. He is a bit of a snacc, as they say.  https://www.instagram.com/christianjetbowers/

So now we have track Brad Pitt in Nick Symmonds and fundie Brad Pitt in Christian Bowers.

All three succeed in both being attractive AND really off-putting.

Liz had a thing with Carver a few years ago (to the point that Carver was pictured sitting next to Marlin at several meals, Liz and Carver always had to have a sibling between them in photos, and Carver openly posted creeper pics of Liz on instagram), and IIRC it lasted months. No idea how that would add to the dynamic of her and Christian. It probably wouldn't matter.

The other factor is it appears Marlin and Becky want their daughters to get married on the later side, which is why Carver and Liz likely didn't go anywhere... Liz is still only 21, while Chelsy and Allison were both on the later side of 26, which is another factor.