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Wonder what happened to the judge...off to search the google....

Oh, that was such an awful story. :-(

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So apparently this piece of shit was given a standing ovation this morning at "church.". He claims that he should never have been arrested and that this is just the devil trying to discredit the messenger. Apparently 3 of his 5 children reported the incident to police... But now it's all just a misunderstanding and the children are, of course, recanting.

Oh, and the marks are eczema....

This is just like the Eddie long Torah incident, these fucking sheeple will believe anything and, of course, give him more money.

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Asshat.

Am I reading correctly that his wife's name is Taffy Dollar? How unfortunate.

You beat me to it.

I never knew much about this guy -- other than his unfortunate name -- but I don't think I wanna know any more. Sigh. I hope that 19 year old runs like hell and gets help. I hope she doesn't get bullied back into that family.

And I'm probably naive for hoping that the wife will support the child...

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Christ I wish I hadn't read those comments.

The amount of people who've commented saying she should be beaten again for involving the police in a "private family manner" is horrible.

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Hell is not hot enough for these people who think that beating their kids is appropriate.

Not that I believe in Hell, it's just that this would be a crime if he'd done it to his wife or any other adult. Key word being Adult. We apparently have no problem with beating a child in our society. We're sick.

(For the record, I was beaten with a metal flyswatter as a kid. All it did was make me a better liar.)

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Yeah, you gotta love the commenters who say that a child should be beaten for saying s/he was beaten. Apparently the truth should be suppressed if it's going to bother your headship.

In a way the comments are useful even though they're horrid. They show how reporting abuse is such a catch-22 situation. If you don't call the police, people blame you for your own abuse. "If it really happened, why didn't she call the police?" And then if you do call the police, people call you a liar and say you should be ashamed for putting family stuff out in public. Then when something really bad happens and someone dies, all those same people are going "Well, why didn't they tell somebody?" It's all about shutting up the victims.

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He's now trying to say that the scratches on her neck were caused by "eczema". Uh-huh.

His daughter is in a horrible, almost no-win situation right now. I wish I could take her in and protect her.

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The amount of people who've commented saying she should be beaten again for involving the police in a "private family manner" is horrible.

Those comments were scary, especially since these people have no problem posting under their real names. It always bothers me that articles about child abuse always bring out people who bitch and cry about not being able to hit kids anymore. It makes me wonder what their households are like. If you disagree with them, they say that you are/will be a terrible parent.

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These extremists have no clue when it comes to a parent picking their battles with there kids and just walking away. Instead they choose to escalate as a means of exerting power and control over their kids. When verbal escalation and intimidation doesn't work the move to physical violence.

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.â€

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Hell is not hot enough for these people who think that beating their kids is appropriate.

Not that I believe in Hell, it's just that this would be a crime if he'd done it to his wife or any other adult. Key word being Adult. We apparently have no problem with beating a child in our society. We're sick.

(For the record, I was beaten with a metal flyswatter as a kid. All it did was make me a better liar.)

Amen. I agree with everything you just said and pretty much posted as much to my facebook when this story first broke. Something to the effect of the world being a better place once people stopped feeling as if they had a right to hit their children. Yeah, radio silence on that post. Bastards.

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These extremists have no clue when it comes to a parent picking their battles with there kids and just walking away. Instead they choose to escalate as a means of exerting power and control over their kids. When verbal escalation and intimidation doesn't work the move to physical violence.

This, a thousand times! That really sums it up. It's all about dominating.

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I lived in a heavily African American neighborhood when I owned my house in St. Paul. I wouldn't say abuse is common but corporal punishment is. Several neighbors said it was better back in the days when anyone in the neighborhood could discipline a misbehaving child. Not that the neighbor would touch the child but they would yell at the child, call the other parent, then the parent would administer the punishment, which was often corporal. As a school nurse I didn't report African American children at a higher rate than white children. The one group where I saw very little abuse was the Asian community, whether Hmong or VietNamese. When they first started coming here as refugees there was misunderstanding about the use of coining, which leaves bruises and families were getting reported. There were major education programs to teach about coining and other Hmong traditions, after which reporting on bruises from coining went away.

Corporal punishment is very common in the black community. My parents are pretty lenient and handled me with kid gloves most of the time, but I was still spanked occasionally. Even being spanked every now and then still affects me to this day and I'm a great storyteller because of it. I also found this gem of a comment:

Amanda our race of people have taught our children to stay in a childs place and to obey their elders. If he went that far I am sure she over stepped her bounds. I am a mother of five 3 boys and 2 girls and we have had our share of boxing, and you can not get any of my children to disrespect me and they are all grown. Spare the rod you will spoil the child and that is not God's intent. Must remember Pastor Dollar is a man of God and he did just what the Word of God said. Beat him and drive hell far from him. The devils job is to discredit any man of God is really living for the Lord. All this shows me is that Pastor Dollar is truly a man of God or the devil would not be trying to attack his integrity.
"Our race of people?" This is the type of thinking that makes other blacks distance themselves from you when you do something that doesn't fit their status quo. (Did you know that breastfeeding was for white people?) I know that for the most part the fundies that are talked about here are white, but the "black" church is just as insidious. For as long as I can remember I was disgusted by the mob mentality and blind devotion they have, jumping up and down in the pews and falling on the ground and pretending to be healed to drive the pastor's money grubbing scheme. Even if someone is accused of sexual assault (Eddie Long) the church members stand by him and accuse everyone else of being wrong or hating on him. It's disheartening to think that after what progress has been made, a lot of blacks still can't pull themselves out of social and spiritual slavery.
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Here's something I was wondering: if people think that choking, slapping, whipping, beating, and butt-kicking is "discipline", than what do they consider abuse?

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The only consolation I can see from the comments is that if the authorities ever get involved in these peoples families for how their treat their children, the internet won't forget the time they said "she totally deserved get her ass beaten for disrespecting her father."

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Those comments are so disturbing.

Also, love the prosperity gospel types quoting Proverbs 23 about discipline, but ignoring a few verses up where it talks about not chasing wealth. Read the whole chapter, kids.

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http://www.ajc.com/news/fayette/creflo- ... 56075.html

Yeah, eczema - more like he's done it before... many times. I always hated this piece of shit. Creflo Dollar is not a man of god, he's a snake oil salesman that has duped tens of thousands into thinking he is godly. If anyone is satan walking earth trying to keep people from god, its creflo dollar and his bullshit ministry.

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I don't understand how parents who hit (spank) will expect their kids to not hit others when their own parents tell them not to; even when parents hit their kids themselves. Aren't parents supposed to be the example for kids to learn from? Why don't parents do what they tell their children they should be doing when it comes to disciplining; such as not hitting people? And no, hitting does not count as disciplining. Sorry if this was confusing. * :oops: *

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Awesome article posted by a friend on FB this morning. I love this part:

"Consider this my remix. Jesus already died, and I refuse to let the Black Church turn me into a martyr for its causes. I refuse to stand by while Black men (and women) use bad theology about headship and Black women and men use bad theology about “sparing the rod†to heap indignities on women and children in the name of God. Our blind investment in patriarchy, and the kind of hierarchy it promotes in churches and families is not healthy for a people who continue to find themselves on the bottom of every social hierarchy that exists. In my faith communities, being a feminist makes me suspect. But to them I say, Jesus was a feminist. In my feminist communities, being a Christian often makes me suspect. And to them I say the same thing, Jesus was a feminist. So I am going to unapologetically let my faith and my feminism inform one another."

crunkfeministcollective.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/when-the-church-fails-its-women-7-truths-we-need-to-tell-about-creflo-dollar-black-daughters-and-violence/

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My take on the "prosperity" gospel bullshit ends here: When the minister has a house big enough to house the homeless or struggling parishioners yet refuses to help in any way... because they didnt "tithe" appropriately or because they just dont feel like it...

When a minister gets in a fight with his child... at 1 AM... that results in the police being called and he blames the child for calling...

Creflo Dollar/Eddie Long and all the other bullshit "ministers" are nothing short of a lottery - buy into the system for the hope of one day gaining riches....

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From the comments:

I’ve witnessed a grow 26 year old man get his behind spanked by his Mom.

:shock: I mean what.the.fuck?!?!

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That was porn, I'm quite sure...

you would think, but she goes on to say she broke up with him shortly after. I have to believe she's lying. My brain won't wrap around it any other way :?

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Another comment:

My Dad was what by today’s standards abusive but I Thank God for it because it Kept Me From a Burning HELL !!!
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