It's The End Of The World As We Know It!

[browngrl]

Is the TEOTWAWKI going to be populated by people like this? I am going to have to eat canned cheese and chicken with these folks at Thanksgiving dinner? Will they want to share my hoard of quality chocolate and wine (I have not canned anything and have made no efforts to prepare for disaster except to lay aside a goodly quantity of fine wine and fine chocolate NOTE my definition of disaster = hang nail)? Because if this is true then when the end of the world comes Mr Browngrl and I will indulge in all our fine foods/beverages and partake of fun frolicking times and then walk towards the tsunnami.

[jenny_islander]

I live in Kodiak, Alaska, a town which was removed by a tsunami almost 50 years go. We mark all the major tsunami escape routes. We test the warning sirens every week. We test the emergency broadcast system on TV and radio at frequent random intervals. We hold full-scale distaster simulations at the high school. The city and borough governments pass out pamphlets advising new residents how to prepare for another Big One, or an ashfall, or an ammonia leak from the fish processing plants that line the shore at the heart of town. Water stores, food stores, bug-out bags, the works. Further out from town there are homesteaders who live in places where you cannot get there from here AT ALL without a boat or plane. They live with huge bears. They grow, pick, fish for, smoke, dry, and can their own food and crap in holes in the ground.

And the average Kodiakan would still think this woman is waaaaaayyyy over the top.

[Evawithoutaclue]

Crikey. If this is the type of person that I'll be rubbing shoulders with when TEOTWASKI comes, then I'm hoping that I'm one of the first to meet an unpleasant end.

Canned cream cheese= the end of the world as I know it. Mind you, I live on several acres of land and have no gun. I will definitely be one of the first to go.....

[ladypuglover]

But if you folks want to read some really crazy prepper shit, you should check out this site:

homesteadingtoday.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11

It used to be a really cool homesteaders forum that has slowly been taken over by fundies, preppers and other crazy folks. You especially should watch for posts by a guy named Ernie and one named Forunner. They both have messiah complexes and know everything there is to know about anything. Some really crazy people.

OMG! The craziness, it burns!!!! :shock:

Know of any non crazy homesteading sites? I would love to live vicariously through them :D

And stupid question but what is this person blabbering on about?

Ten Things You Need Done Before August 2nd

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I do not know if the debt crisis is going to materialize into an actual shutdown of the Federal government, but it may very well do so. As Rick Santelli said, "If not now, then when?" Sooner or later the showdown between the producers and the socialists is going to come to a head. Is this the time?

The looming showdown is set for August 2nd. Here are ten things you need to do to get ready for that date:

1. Have at least a month of food set aside, even if it's just beans and rice. For a host of reasons, the highway systems may be shut down or experience problems that prevent trucks from delivering food to the grocery stores.

2. Pull some cash out of the bank and keep it on hand, just in case. You don't need enough to pay your mortgage, but you certainly need enough to buy two tanks of gas and a week's worth of groceries. The Federal government's tendrils wind deep into the banking industry and I'm not sure what financial services you'll have access to if the government shuts down or goes into limited functionality.

3. As we draw closer to the deadline, keep your vehicles topped off with gasoline. Particularly do so if you're in an urban area. You may need to relocate in a hurry and items #1 or #2 would also impact the ability of gas stations to keep filled.

4. Go over your bugout plans and gear with your family. Discuss options in a calm and rational manner without excessive fear. Decide on something and make it known to each member of the family.

5. Make arrangements ahead of time with friends or family in other locations to relocate if need be. We don't know what regions might erupt into problems or violence so two-way arrangements for a safe haven are a good thing to have handy.

6. Time for a weapons check. Make sure all firearms are ready for use and it may also be a great time to refamiliarize yourself and family members with firearms that aren't frequently practiced with. Got ammo? Get some!

7. Ready vehicles. Oil changes, any minor repairs that have been stacking up and might be an issue, and don't forget the spare tire and changing equipment.

8. If you have livestock, make sure you haven't forgotten to stock their food as well. Look around and consider how you may need to secure their protection as well. Bringing them down closer to your house, or isolating them from pastures near the road in the event of civil disturbances may be needed.

9. If you are reliant on electric, gas, or water from outside sources then prepare for potential disruptions. The government monitors all these systems for safety and in the event of a shutdown they may require producers to turn off supplies for "safety reasons" or to inflict pain and suffering on the voters in order to get them to pressure their representatives.

10. If possible, arrange to be home with your loved ones during the first week of August. It's just a good week to be home.

[teddybear]

That is Ernie, who considers himself the know it all of the forum. He is always predicting the end of the world as we know it. He really considers himself a prophet. He is totally nuts.

[ladypuglover]

But what is going down on August 2nd? Aliens? Zombies? Taxes are due? Jesus is coming for tea? I don't get it.

[demgirl]

August 2nd is the day that the government stops having money to pay its bills. See: Debt Ceiling showdown.

[ladypuglover]

August 2nd is the day that the government stops having money to pay its bills. See: Debt Ceiling showdown.

Ah, thanks for the heads up.

[jenny_islander]

So . . . what? A lot of government offices shut down, including the ones that SUCK OUT MAH TAX DOLLAHS for those lazy welfare cheats (you know, the ones aged three and a half) and people who were stupid enough to get old and sick. Shouldn't Ernie and his readers plan to throw a big barbecue and paint big "ITS SOCIALISM, MORAN" signs to pose with by the highway?

[demgirl]

Check out NoCal Girl's comment on the blog post about us at Paratus Familia:

Anonymous said...

WOW! I'm gone for a couple days and all kinds of things happen.

First, I will not read their hateful stuff because I will not lower myself to their level, not even temporarily. All my life I have been dealing with hate-mongering liberals and atheists (I live in California, so I've grown accustomed to their antics) and have learned that the best way to deal with them is to IGNORE THEM. They can't stand being ignored. They are the most immature people imaginable, yet their ilk runs this country now. That is why things are so screwed up.

Second, when they start attacking you then you know you have made some good points because they can't stand it when logic prevails.

Third, liberal and atheist hate-mongers run on emotion, either theirs or somebody else's. they can't see the truth even when it's presented to them in the most basic of ways. They are emotional animals and as such, they can be quite dangerous. They act without thinking because they lack cognitive ability.

Fourth, God has a long memory - they will get their just reward someday.

Last, but certainly not least, Maid Elizabeth is saving lives and actually helping people - strangers. The yahoos who ridicule her spelling are taking up valuable space and using up valuable resources while contributing absolutely nothing to the betterment of the planet. I wonder how much hypocrisy they can spew before they drown in it?!! Speaking of useless hypocrites, Al Gore is probably their cheer leader.

There are so many things wrong with this that I cannot even think where to begin. I'm literally dumbfounded by the logic fail so prevalent within. We're the hate mongerers? For real? Self-awareness fail too, then.

Oh, and mirele, some Anon poster in the comments linked to Religious Freedom Watch and said the organization called you an anti-religion extremist. I submitted a comment asking if the blog and its posters really wanted to be associated with a front organization for a space alien cult, but I doubt it will make the light of day. Btw, whatever you did to piss off the Scientologists, you apparently succeeded -- good job! No seriously -- that's incredibly brave. Those people are scary with a capital S.

[Oddeverything]

So . . . what? A lot of government offices shut down, including the ones that SUCK OUT MAH TAX DOLLAHS for those lazy welfare cheats (you know, the ones aged three and a half) and people who were stupid enough to get old and sick. Shouldn't Ernie and his readers plan to throw a big barbecue and paint big "ITS SOCIALISM, MORAN" signs to pose with by the highway?

It's disturbing how much these people long for something terrible to happen that would justify their paranoia and hatred. They long for strife the way a thirsty person longs for water or a dying man longs for heaven. When the deficit ceiling issue is settled, they will find another thing to prepare for and they will never get to see the end of the world they so fervently desire.

That is what irks me the most about these people. They want the worst to happen. They are not simply preparing for it - they need it and crave it in order to continue on with their sense of being right while the rest of us lesbian heathen whatever they call us suffer. They are not preparing in order to survive. They are preparing so they can gloat. Nothing would please them more than if the global economy really does crash.

[keeks21]

I love, love, love preppers! When I get bored I go on youtube and search the prepping videos. A warning though, like fundie blogs, once you start watching you can never stop!

[Moose]

I live in Kodiak, Alaska, a town which was removed by a tsunami almost 50 years go. We mark all the major tsunami escape routes. We test the warning sirens every week. We test the emergency broadcast system on TV and radio at frequent random intervals. We hold full-scale distaster simulations at the high school. The city and borough governments pass out pamphlets advising new residents how to prepare for another Big One, or an ashfall, or an ammonia leak from the fish processing plants that line the shore at the heart of town. Water stores, food stores, bug-out bags, the works. Further out from town there are homesteaders who live in places where you cannot get there from here AT ALL without a boat or plane. They live with huge bears. They grow, pick, fish for, smoke, dry, and can their own food and crap in holes in the ground.

And the average Kodiakan would still think this woman is waaaaaayyyy over the top.

And here I thought my world had turned upside down when I moved to Anchorage after growing up in Virginia. Thanks for the perspective. :)

OT, but I just wanted to pop in an say "hey, neighbor!"

On topic- the lady has mad skills, I'll give her that. But there's being prepared to take care of yourself and then there's living a life crushed by fear (which is hardly living at all). I'd say she falls firmly in the latter.

[FaustianSlip]

You know, I've gotta say, she may be loopy, but her recipes look absolutely amazing. I'm totally trying her recipes for French bread and hushpuppies.

That said, questioning whether someone with really borderline spelling has the education necessary to be a midwife or commenting on some of the crazy that a person is putting out their all by herself isn't "hating" anyone or even especially hateful. It's looking at a publicly available blog and commenting on what's there. That's the nature of the internet; you're never going to have a blog like that, that's apparently pretty widely-read, and not have people disagreeing with you or commenting on your lifestyle. Seems to me that when you make the decision to go that route, it's time to put on your big girl panties and get ready to deal with some flak.

[Burris]

Check out NoCal Girl's comment on the blog post about us at Paratus Familia:

There are so many things wrong with this that I cannot even think where to begin. I'm literally dumbfounded by the logic fail so prevalent within. We're the hate mongerers? For real? Self-awareness fail too, then.

Oh, and mirele, some Anon poster in the comments linked to Religious Freedom Watch and said the organization called you an anti-religion extremist. I submitted a comment asking if the blog and its posters really wanted to be associated with a front organization for a space alien cult, but I doubt it will make the light of day. Btw, whatever you did to piss off the Scientologists, you apparently succeeded -- good job! No seriously -- that's incredibly brave. Those people are scary with a capital S.

Holy mackerel! Some of those folks are dumb as a sack of hammers. The center-right party Americans call "Democrat" is now represented in the White House, so of course lesbians and atheists are running the country - and yet Obama is a sekret Muslim, too!

And then they look at that dumb CoS page about Mirele, read the disjointed crap on there, and conclude she's an anti-religious bigot.

It never ceases to amaze me just how down-right brain dead some of these folks are. I'm not even kidding. It's getting harder and harder for me to put together real rebuttals when I know most of the time those will be met with a chorus of, "Lalalalala - I'm not listening!" (Because ignorance is next to Godliness.)

/rant

[formergothardite]

Wait, these people are so scared of the ebil government that they drive around prepared for the worst, yet they blog and use the internet? The first thing I would toss if I was trying fly under the radar of the government is the internet. No way I would be blogging.

[Guest Anonymous]

It's disturbing how much these people long for something terrible to happen that would justify their paranoia and hatred. They long for strife the way a thirsty person longs for water or a dying man longs for heaven. When the deficit ceiling issue is settled, they will find another thing to prepare for and they will never get to see the end of the world they so fervently desire.

That is what irks me the most about these people. They want the worst to happen. They are not simply preparing for it - they need it and crave it in order to continue on with their sense of being right while the rest of us lesbian heathen whatever they call us suffer. They are not preparing in order to survive. They are preparing so they can gloat. Nothing would please them more than if the global economy really does crash.

THey consider it vital to their mental health (term used VERY loosely) to think that they will be the only ones left when Armageddon or its equivalent comes. That's why they are rooting for it.

[Wolfie]

THey consider it vital to their mental health (term used VERY loosely) to think that they will be the only ones left when Armageddon or its equivalent comes. That's why they are rooting for it.

Which makes no sense, because wouldn't that mean that they aren't truly Christians if they are left behind?

And the person from CA must be in one of the "blue" regions of the state, because a good portion of non-coastal CA is very conservative. After reading some letters to the editor that are in the paper, and seeing just how fenced in their house is, I suspect my creepy neighbor is a prepper.

[Crackedeggs]

Wait, these people are so scared of the ebil government that they drive around prepared for the worst, yet they blog and use the internet? The first thing I would toss if I was trying fly under the radar of the government is the internet. No way I would be blogging.

I have an interest in Prepping - not because I think Armageddon is around the corner, but because I like to grow things and know how to do things the old fashioned way. I like camping, stuff like that. I don't own guns.

One of the things that struck me immediately about these people was their willingness.. no.. braggadocio - regarding the firepower they own. It's like a penis size contest. And yes, by spelling it out like they do, they are inviting the very forces they are terrified of to come and get them and their arsenals.

Secondly, I was on a board once, a prepper board, where the first conversation I got involved in was about how to pick "zombies" off as they come down the highway from the cities and suburbs . I'm serious - the conversation included how to identify and classify them, how rich folks from the burbs would be even more useless and should be slaughtered on site, as opposed to poor folks from the cities who might be " tough" and possibly useful, although they may also be a treat because they are criminals... I mean it was a nasty, nasty conversation. I lit into them, and subsequently got kicked off the board.

I think we all have a responsibility to know how to feed, shelter and clothe ourselves in times of trouble. However, you can take that over the top and become really, really insane like the people you are reading. Not everybody who is into preparedness is as insane as the ones you are reading here, but they also don't blog what they do, because they aren't into it for self-aggrandizement.

[Guest Anonymous]

Which makes no sense, because wouldn't that mean that they aren't truly Christians if they are left behind?

And the person from CA must be in one of the "blue" regions of the state, because a good portion of non-coastal CA is very conservative. After reading some letters to the editor that are in the paper, and seeing just how fenced in their house is, I suspect my creepy neighbor is a prepper.

If these people were using logic, we would neither hear about them nor have cause to snark on them. I still think they get off on the prospect of watching the rest of us burn to death in fires/get washed away in tidal waves/get buried under avalanches.

[fundiefan]

You know, I've gotta say, she may be loopy, but her recipes look absolutely amazing. I'm totally trying her recipes for French bread and hushpuppies.

That said, questioning whether someone with really borderline spelling has the education necessary to be a midwife or commenting on some of the crazy that a person is putting out their all by herself isn't "hating" anyone or even especially hateful. It's looking at a publicly available blog and commenting on what's there. That's the nature of the internet; you're never going to have a blog like that, that's apparently pretty widely-read, and not have people disagreeing with you or commenting on your lifestyle. Seems to me that when you make the decision to go that route, it's time to put on your big girl panties and get ready to deal with some flak.

I think it's also an indication of education. Not in whether one was given/received, but how one took it and used it. If you don't care enough to learn to properly spell words or construct a sentence, how can anyone really trust you to care about what you were taught otherwise? If English and grammar were of little enough concern to not bother with, who is to say that, in this girl's case, some course or practice critical to being a competent midwife wasn't also treated with such carelessness? All because she didn't care enough to put in the effort or truly learn and absorb?

I wouldn't go to a doctor, dentist, lawyer or even sign on a Realtor whose profile was full of mis-spelled words or obvious grammatical errors. If they don't care enough to write coherently, they don't care enough to pay attention to the details that could be critical in service to me.

[jenny_islander]

I absolutely agree. If someone says up front, "I'm dyslexic, so please pardon my errors," or increasingly these days, "I'm posting from my phone, please excuse the mess," I am willing to overlook bad spelling and punctuation. (I'm married to a dyslexic myself.) But somebody who just couldn't be bothered to use their own language in a mature, literate way isn't worth my time.

[Kaylee]

OK, I've been avoiding this thread because I'm a survivalist (slightly different connotations than "prepper", I guess, but I'll admit I envy Bert from Tremors). That said, the people who brag about their guns and seem to look forward to killing their neighbors are the reason some of these groups are more closed and selective. I was part of a semi-private survivalist group for a long time and, even with screening, it attracted some world-class nutjobs.

I don't see anything wrong with preparing, storing food & medical gear-, and even guns, ammo, and reloading supplies, but posting all about it on your blog with pictures of your family and property is nothing but a big invitation for the even crazier crowd who believe TEOTWAWKI is coming, but plan to loot and steal their way through it, to target you. It also points you out as someone for the government or local authorities to confiscate supplies from in case of declared state of emergency.

I tend to like people like this, and have followed this blog for a while for ideas and such. That said, I agree that people shouldn't expect to be free from criticism when they share so much online. I can't criticize her for her views on preparedness, because we're on the same page there. That said, I do find the arrogance in some of here posts, and that of the commenters, really off-putting. She's all butt-hurt about criticism here, but has no problem painting the rest of the world as naive, stupid, bad mothers, etc, for not doing things her way.

I don't see how a person who has basically called everyone here a bunch of godless, liberal, stupid, unprepared people, and bragged about how we will die and she would be glad to shoot us rather than offer any sort of help, can think she has some right to call persecution because she got called out on it.

[ladypuglover]

OK, I've been avoiding this thread because I'm a survivalist (slightly different connotations than "prepper", I guess, but I'll admit I envy Bert from Tremors). That said, the people who brag about their guns and seem to look forward to killing their neighbors are the reason some of these groups are more closed and selective. I was part of a semi-private survivalist group for a long time and, even with screening, it attracted some world-class nutjobs.

I don't see anything wrong with preparing, storing food & medical gear-, and even guns, ammo, and reloading supplies, but posting all about it on your blog with pictures of your family and property is nothing but a big invitation for the even crazier crowd who believe TEOTWAWKI is coming, but plan to loot and steal their way through it, to target you. It also points you out as someone for the government or local authorities to confiscate supplies from in case of declared state of emergency.

I tend to like people like this, and have followed this blog for a while for ideas and such. That said, I agree that people shouldn't expect to be free from criticism when they share so much online. I can't criticize her for her views on preparedness, because we're on the same page there. That said, I do find the arrogance in some of here posts, and that of the commenters, really off-putting. She's all butt-hurt about criticism here, but has no problem painting the rest of the world as naive, stupid, bad mothers, etc, for not doing things her way.

I don't see how a person who has basically called everyone here a bunch of godless, liberal, stupid, unprepared people, and bragged about how we will die and she would be glad to shoot us rather than offer any sort of help, can think she has some right to call persecution because she got called out on it.

I have nothing against anyone that chooses to be prepared, I think it is a great idea and smart to do so. Like you I find the whole attitude she presents as off putting. It's the whole holier than thou and I will gleefully kill all those when the times come that is sickening. I know that it very well could mean having to shoot someone to save your own life but to be so joyfull about it? Also this woman and others like her seem to have a mental illness that they can't make one move with out a plan of home from the store and avoid the zombie hordes. That is what is strange, not the being prepared but the life controlling fear of what might never happen. But for the record, I have great respect for people who choose to prepare and take the time to learn survivalist skills. Those are the people we can learn from, not people who are mentally ill and let fear control them.

[jenny_islander]

Another tip from our local gummint that I bet you won't see on prepper blogs: If services go down in winter and you have some source of heat, one of the first things you should do is collect as many neighbors as possible. More people make more body heat to supplement your backup wood stove or what have you. Have them bring the contents of their fridges and have a potluck. Share. Interact. Take care of each other. Pool your resources.