Lori Alexander decides that everyone is rich, like her

[Hisey]

This woman lives a lavish lifestyle. Her husband and daughter just traveled to Hawaii. They live in one of the most expensive cities in the country. They are constantly eating out. Top it all off, she deliberately stopped having kids after 4. Yet she has the nerve to tell all of us that we can afford a lot of kids, and we should have lots. Because we just want to spend our extra money on flat screen TVs, you know.

[tropaka]

I am curious why someone would need to have a tubal reversed - seems like BS to me. Any operation can have complications, but I'm not buying the solution in that case.

[Witsec7]

From her blog profile.

I love learning about everything ~ Jesus, eating healthy, living simply, protecting the environment, marriage, raising children, politics, and everything else that is honest, just, pure, lovely, and of good report.

Help me out here, when did politics become honest, just, pure, lovely and of good report?

[Burris]

Yeah, she's a real winner, that one. The post directly before the one you mention concerns how women who demand to "feel loved" are in fact usurping authority over their husbands. (BONUS: She even uses the term "pout," which is becoming a special pet peeve of mine because it keeps coming up time and again in fundie blogs discussing women. Hey adult ladies! Pouting is beneath you, for fuck's sake.)

At any rate, Lori sees no disconnect between bitching that women want to "feel loved" even while arguing that women should not only respect their husbands but bend over backwards to ensure their husbands 'feel respected.'

[Witsec7]

I just realized she is the "Where do all the sperm go" lady

[Wolfie]

Yeah, she's a real winner, that one. The post directly before the one you mention concerns how women who demand to "feel loved" are in fact usurping authority over their husbands. (BONUS: She even uses the term "pout," which is becoming a special pet peeve of mine because it keeps coming up time and again in fundie blogs discussing women. Hey adult ladies! Pouting is beneath you, for fuck's sake.)

At any rate, Lori sees no disconnect between bitching that women want to "feel loved" even while arguing that women should not only respect their husbands but bend over backwards to ensure their husbands 'feel respected.'

Not to mention that pouting IS manipulation. Yep, you're controlling your husband with it.

[Burris]

Not to mention that pouting IS manipulation. Yep, you're controlling your husband with it.

That was actually her point: Women aren't grateful merely to be loved, for example; they're being manipulative - for example, through pouting - if they in any way, shape, or form suggest that love should be accompanied by action.

Respect, on the other hand...well now that we're talking about what women must do, respect needs to be more than a posture; it must be shown through a series of self-abasing acts.

[Elle]

This woman lives a lavish lifestyle. Her husband and daughter just traveled to Hawaii. They live in one of the most expensive cities in the country. They are constantly eating out. Top it all off, she deliberately stopped having kids after 4. Yet she has the nerve to tell all of us that we can afford a lot of kids, and we should have lots. Because we just want to spend our extra money on flat screen TVs, you know.

Reminds me of the "Get Rich Slowly" lady who insists everyone can live off of one income and even take a really nice vacation each year if they really want to, because her family does it. Her husband makes over $100k a year, but she doesn't understand most families will never make that much even with multiple full-time workers.

[JesusFightClub]

From her blog profile.

Help me out here, when did politics become honest, just, pure, lovely and of good report?

:D

Anyone who's ever seen a Trotskyist faction fight. Or AFed/Solfed dustups. Or a union faction fight. Or read Libcom. Or the Weekly Worker. Or Socialist Unity. Or the PFLCPSA. Or Anarchist Black Cat. Or been a mod on a leftwing website (I was and the scars are still with me)...

Would be able to tell her she's talking shite.

[Effie]

From her blog profile.

Help me out here, when did politics become honest, just, pure, lovely and of good report?

Well, when the buffoon Jimmie Åkesson (xenophobic politician who blames all of our societal problems on immigrants) loses a political debate, I find politics to be absolutely loooveeely.

[lilwriter85]

I found that posting annoying. Lori's children are in their early to late 20's. When her children were younger, some things in California weren't as expensive as they are now. There is a large adoptive family that I've read about that lives in Cali. The mother in this family, started taking in foster kids in her early 20's. In the late 80's she bought a house right before real estate prices started to boom.

Maybe Lori and her husband likely bought a home at the right time many years ago. Now in days depending on where you live, it is impossible for some families to find a house at a good price. The cost of living has went up in a lot of places and Lori probably doesn't see how that effects couples with children who haven't reached adulthood. A friend of mine and her family moved to California last year. They did it mostly for the husband's career. They have two boys and at one point they wanted to have four kids. They have decided to stick to 2, mainly because they don't want to end up struggling in the future. Their decision to not have more kids has nothing to do with desiring more material things. I did laugh at Lori mentioning flat screen TVs. You can sometimes find good deals on those if they aren't too big.

I think a lot of couples who aren't having large families, are doing it so their kids can have extras when it comes to education or other important resources. As for the comment about a car for every driver in the family. In some areas, families are better off having multiple cars for different reasons which have nothing to do with materialism.

I also found this dumb ass comment

Alicia · 41 minutes ago

I enjoyed this post. I read that truthfully, larger families are better for the environment. Contrary to popular belief, the world is not headed towards overpopulation but underpopulation because of the easy access to things like abortion and birth control. Also, moms of many use less resources because they reuse and, like you mentioned, they don't give into the materialistic culture.

I fucking hate that people continue to deny overpopulation and I also hate they don't understand that there are some resources in the world that are limited. Reusing stuff doesn't always help the earth.

[CampMtgGirl]

I'm pretty sure the author of "Radical Homemakers" would be horrified that Lori is quoting her.

[Koala]

I am curious why someone would need to have a tubal reversed - seems like BS to me. Any operation can have complications, but I'm not buying the solution in that case.

Thank you. I mean what the fuck is this? I'm no medical expert, but the solution for her complication was to reverse her tubal? :roll:

[chilsa]

Can the woman write sentences with more than 5 words? She writes like a 7th grader piecing together her first research paper. It's just a jumble of random "facts" thrown pell-mell, because, hey, they sound good together. I automatically distrust information written like that.

[Wolfie]

There are websites with lists of symptoms that people attribute to tubal ligation. They are basically common symptoms that could have multiple, even psychological causes.

[alba]

In fact, many Americans are killing their offspring because it isn't the right time for a baby. God's judgment on nations in the past was infertility. I think this may be a cause of the rising rates of infertility in our nation. God punishes disobedience. He is a just God.

I honestly don't know how to respond to this.

Children are the only thing that lasts for eternity.

Huh. I was under the impression that children grew into adults and, eventually, died.

I'd also rather spend £20ish a year on a cell phone whose benefits I enjoy than ditch it and spend much more on children I don't want.

[2xx1xy1JD]

Is this the same Lori that hates the idea of government paying for anything, and wants charities to be able to deny food to those who aren't deserving?

I hate posts like these. If you want to arrange your budget so that the money goes to children and not other items, great. If you want to make a radical lifestyle change so that basic expenses are drastically reduced, great. But please, don't imply that money simply appears out of thin air, if only you believe. It reminds me too much of The Emperor's New Clothes, where no one wants to admit that the clothes don't exist for fear of it reflecting badly on them. The fact is that some people DON'T have a magic money tree, and will genuinely struggle - especially if they have large numbers of children, don't have a real college education and have only the husband working. I'm concerned that all this "you just need FAITH" talk will just make it impossible for those that are struggling to admit it and take practical steps, because they will see it as an admission that they are lacking in faith.

I have this radical idea that at the end of the day, I have a responsibility to my kids. Not to my unfertilized eggs or my husband's free-floating sperm, but to my flesh-and-blood children. If I couldn't pay for their food or housing or other needs, I can't exactly say "but that lady Lori on the internet promised that I didn't need to worry because the Lord would provide". Until she is willing to pay for basic necessities for any family who relies on her post and finds that they can't make it, her views are worthless.

As for wants - what exactly is wrong with them? If spending money on something works for everyone in my family, and we aren't hurting anyone, and we make our money honestly, and if we donate a reasonable percentage of our income, then why shouldn't we spend it? Why would Lori get a vote on what constitutes a reasonable expenditure?

[lilwriter85]

Is this the same Lori that hates the idea of government paying for anything, and wants charities to be able to deny food to those who aren't deserving?

I hate posts like these. If you want to arrange your budget so that the money goes to children and not other items, great. If you want to make a radical lifestyle change so that basic expenses are drastically reduced, great. But please, don't imply that money simply appears out of thin air, if only you believe. It reminds me too much of The Emperor's New Clothes, where no one wants to admit that the clothes don't exist for fear of it reflecting badly on them. The fact is that some people DON'T have a magic money tree, and will genuinely struggle - especially if they have large numbers of children, don't have a real college education and have only the husband working. I'm concerned that all this "you just need FAITH" talk will just make it impossible for those that are struggling to admit it and take practical steps, because they will see it as an admission that they are lacking in faith.

I have this radical idea that at the end of the day, I have a responsibility to my kids. Not to my unfertilized eggs or my husband's free-floating sperm, but to my flesh-and-blood children. If I couldn't pay for their food or housing or other needs, I can't exactly say "but that lady Lori on the internet promised that I didn't need to worry because the Lord would provide". Until she is willing to pay for basic necessities for any family who relies on her post and finds that they can't make it, her views are worthless.

As for wants - what exactly is wrong with them? If spending money on something works for everyone in my family, and we aren't hurting anyone, and we make our money honestly, and if we donate a reasonable percentage of our income, then why shouldn't we spend it? Why would Lori get a vote on what constitutes a reasonable expenditure?

I don't see anything wrong with wanting to spend money on certain things. I have noticed other fundie bloggers and some non fundies have that same view as Lori. They basically think that wanting any material thing is a huge sin. I've seen other fundie bloggers exaggerate the materialism that goes in society. The part in Lori's posting about families that have a car for every driver is something that I rolled my eyes at. Some families wouldn't function well with just one car. In some places, families having two cars or more is a good thing because of weather issues, work schedules, etc. As for stuff like cell phones, Internet service and electronics, if the whole family enjoying them that is ok.

[2xx1xy1JD]

Yeah, she's a real winner, that one. The post directly before the one you mention concerns how women who demand to "feel loved" are in fact usurping authority over their husbands. (BONUS: She even uses the term "pout," which is becoming a special pet peeve of mine because it keeps coming up time and again in fundie blogs discussing women. Hey adult ladies! Pouting is beneath you, for fuck's sake.)

At any rate, Lori sees no disconnect between bitching that women want to "feel loved" even while arguing that women should not only respect their husbands but bend over backwards to ensure their husbands 'feel respected.'

Yes, the last line is about allowing husband's to be leaders so that THEY feel loved and respected. Hmmm.

Does Lori have any clue that she is constantly making her husband look like an asshole? All we hear is about how he NEEDS to be right all the time, needs to be in control, and now she is basically telling us that she was miserable for years because he didn't make her feel loved.

It's not selfish for each person in a relationship to want to feel the security of knowing that the other person loves and respects them. I'd call it a basic human need. Yes, people don't always express love the same way. That's why communication is important, and why it's also important to pay attention to different "love languages". Learning to speak to your partner's heart is a skill that can save marriages. Telling people to suck it up and give up expectations is not.

[julie paradox]

Does Lori have any clue that she is constantly making her husband look like an asshole?

No, because all men are like that, duh.

[YPestis]

It's easy to judge what other families "need" when she has managed to raise her kids under different circumstances. Housing is extremely expensive in some parts these days and education cost is through the roof. Then again, when you can fit five kids into one room and don't believe in college then that's a load off of everyone. I think funnies mistaken the idea of putting faith in god with the idea of Magic Money Tree. Having faith means depending on god to guide you tough times. It also means utilizing the tools and resources placed before you to make good, financial decisions.. Magic Money Tree is where money will magically appear in your doorstep when you need it and you can spend it however you want because God will always grant you more money!

[desertvixen]

It's easy to judge what other families "need" when she has managed to raise her kids under different circumstances. Housing is extremely expensive in some parts these days and education cost is through the roof. Then again, when you can fit five kids into one room and don't believe in college then that's a load off of everyone.

This.