Cured of Homosexuality by Matt Moore

[debrand]

Because he did not write under a pseudonym, I am including the writers' real name. His story makes me very sad. It also infuriates me that he is passing this crap on to other young homosexuals desperate to force their desires to line up with their version of Christianity.

He blames early exposure to pornography as the reason for his homosexuality. During his childhood, he engaged in some sex play with his friends. I'm not really certain if his actions would be considered sex play but more like childish curiousity about other kids. He convinced a friend to stand in his underpants. There doesn't appear to have been any physical contact though. He also includes an incident where another person who taught him to undress him while he pretended sleep. The writer doesn't give the age of the person he played this sleeping game with so I am not certain what to think. If the person was an adult that would be disturbing. Between children, I would not have as much of an issue. So, I am annoyed that he leaves out the age.

At the age of 5 years old, I had not only been preyed upon, but also become a predator

He doesn't describe any predatory behavior on his part so I'm not certain why he describes himself as a predator. He seems to have a lot of guilt.

When I was around the age of six, my parents split up. My mom immediately pursued a relationship. Another relationship, with a woman. This woman basically lived with us, as I remember sleeping over all the time. I of course was shielded from the knowledge that she and my mother were romantic in their relationship. But I had an innate feeling that there was something more to it. I wouldn't be told about the fullness of what was actually going on until I was 13 years old, almost seven years later. But I wasn't surprised. Nothing inappropriate ever happened between me and my mom's girlfriend or anything like that, nor was I exposed to any kind of sexual behavior between them. But now looking back, I believe that there was some kind of demonic presence about her and the situation

It doesn't appear that his mother or her girlfriend did anything wrong or abusive yet he describes their relationship as demonic. According to him, his mother agrees with his account. It is sad that a loving relationship would produce so much guilt that the participants have to describe it as demonic isntead of admitting that they are attracted to their own sex.

Because I know you don't want to read the entire article on this forum, so I've included a link. I almost wish the young man would come here so that we could talk to him about his cure from homosexuality.

Another reason to use his real name in this forum...When people searchhis name and find this forum intead, they will not only be exposed to his brand of self guilt and pain but will learn that not everyone believes as he does. Maybe that will help a few young people accept that there is nothing wrong with them.

blogs.christianpost.com/standing-in-truth/god-saves-drunken-promiscuous-homosexuals-he-saved-me-8783/

[debrand]

I still struggle with homosexual temptations and have to fight the sinful urges on a daily basis. But it's SO immensely worth the fight! Because of the working of the Holy Spirit in my heart, I am able to see clearly that the homosexual feelings I have are a perversion of the gift of sex that God gave mankind. I am able to see and believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that me idolizing my sex drive over the God I was created to worship caused so much destruction in my life (I did get tested for HIV by the way, twice. Both times were negative, praise God!). I know that the things that happened in my childhood were outside of my control, but because of my own brokenness and depravity I still chose to make myself and my desires more important than Jesus Christ.

I meant to include one more quote. He doesn't claim that he was cured in the sense that he doesn't have homosexual feelings any more, just that he is able to fight against them now.

This is sad. He blames his past behavior, drinking, promiscuity on his homosexuality when he sounds as if he was filled with self loathing brought on my his culture.

edited to add a little more.

[valsa]

He doesn't claim that he was cured in the sense that he doesn't have homosexual feelings any more, just that he is able to fight against them now.

This is what basically all "ex-gay" success stories boil down to (even in Exodus Int.) You're not straight- you're just not acting on your homosexual desires.

[ElphabaGalinda]

This is what basically all "ex-gay" success stories boil down to (even in Exodus Int.) You're not straight- you're just not acting on your homosexual desires.

Which makes no sense at all, if homosexuality is supposedly "caused" by bad experiences behaviours like pornography and abuse. They're all just admitting a "cure" isn't possible no matter what they do, so wouldn't the next logical step be to realize that this isn't something to be cured, and it's perfectly natural.

That being said, this and other "ex-gay" stories are really really sad.

[valsa]

Which makes no sense at all, if homosexuality is supposedly "caused" by bad experiences behaviours like pornography and abuse. They're all just admitting a "cure" isn't possible no matter what they do, so wouldn't the next logical step be to realize that this isn't something to be cured, and it's perfectly natural.

That being said, this and other "ex-gay" stories are really really sad.

I used to find stories like this sad but I've recently taken the approach of "you can't save idiots from themselves". If a self-hating gay person wants to make themselves miserable fighting off their supposedly evil gay urges, so be it. There are more than enough resources around for a person of any religious persuasion to find a gay-friendly places of worship (including gay-friendly mosques, which is like finding a needle in a haystack) and explanations of why being gay isn't horrible thing. If they refuse to take advantage of that, then I'm not going to bother wasting my sympathy on them.

[OnceModestTwiceShy]

I used to find stories like this sad but I've recently taken the approach of "you can't save idiots from themselves". If a self-hating gay person wants to make themselves miserable fighting off their supposedly evil gay urges, so be it. There are more than enough resources around for a person of any religious persuasion to find a gay-friendly places of worship (including gay-friendly mosques, which is like finding a needle in a haystack) and explanations of why being gay isn't horrible thing. If they refuse to take advantage of that, then I'm not going to bother wasting my sympathy on them.

I'm on the fence. I don't want to judge anyone for doing what they need to do to survive in a bad environment. If your whole community and family are extremely homophobic and you lack the resources to relocate or find a safe haven for whatever reason, I have nothing but sympathy for you if you go to one of these programs and try to live as a heterosexual. I can't imagine how difficult it must be if, for example, you're an Evangelical pastor's wife in the Bible Belt who realizes that she's a lesbian. I can understand someone like that trying to "cure" their homosexuality. But if that same woman starts writing books encouraging others to "become straight" and actively works against gay rights, my sympathy wears thin very quickly.

[debrand]

http://blogs.christianpost.com/standing ... ed-me-8783

I couldn't get my own link to work so I am posted an unbroken one.

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1CeoLlukiQw

This is the man who wrote the article. He says if we could become straight, we wouldn't need Jesus Christ. We are so broken that we don't need our need for a savior.

He compares his homosexuality to a drug addiction or alcoholism

He says that it does get better when you come out but it is only temporary. Even if it is better for the rest of your life, you still have to face god.

His video will probably be used by some Christian bloggers or on facebook to prove that homosexuals can just be celibate and deny themselves a normal relationship.

[DistantStar]

I truly wonder if any of the more vocal antis have actually talked -- and tried to honestly listen -- to an out gay person. Or a couple, like the guys I know who just had their 30th anniversary. They have been a couple almost as long as I have been alive. You would never guess either of them were that age, either, I was (pleasantly) shocked when they announced their anniversary in church -- and, might I add, got a round of applause!

Gay people who know who they are and are comfortable with it don't get involved with ex-gay shit. Period.

[dairyfreelife]

This guy has serious issues and should see a therapist. A real therapist. If he was abused some way as a child, he needs to address that. I saw an epi of Intervention where a guy was a homosexual meth and sex addict. He had a lot of issues, but his orientation was not the problem. His childhood sexual abuse, troubled home life with an abusive, religious step-father who hated his "girly" behavior and other issues were the problem. Addiction isn't the same as being a homosexual. His childhood seeing a friends privates didn't cause him to be homosexual. His lesbian parents didn't cause him to be homosexual, though it could be slightly genetic. Really a sad shame that he has so many issues with this. He needs some serious help. If he was abused inappropriately by an adult as a child, he needs to work through that. If he knows who did it, they deserve prison time for that. If was just a childhood curiousity, then he needs to stop obsessing over something that didn't cause him to "be gay". (Quotes because this dude sees that as something wrong with him and that he's in sin, not because I think something is wrong with being gay. Gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgenders are just like anyone who's heterosexual in my experience).

As for the predator thing. There's a myth that homosexuals and even bisexuals are "predators" because nutty religious people think it's like beastility or pedophilia, forgetting that the latter two can't consent to sex and that's called rape. So, it's not shocking to hear it. He's wrong that being gay makes him a predator, but he's probably been told that.

[ilovetchotchkes]

I hate the whole "celibacy is the answer to everything" crap. It just makes NO SENSE. There's this ridiculous dualism about denying "the flesh" and its like, really? really? if we suppressed all our "carnal" desires we would starve to death.