Easter fundie style

[Koala]

plaintorahkeeper.blogspot.com/2012/04/we-had-got-our-passover-seder-done-last.html

Highlights:

As I was walking through the store to get the items we needed for Passover, the store was full of the fertility goddess Easter, with her eggs and rabbits, but the sad thing was Christians getting those items and being so deceived that that would have anything to do with the Messiah being crucified and rose again. I wonder why can't they "see" this.

HalleluYAH

[jesslynn10]

It's "Resurrection Sunday" don't cha know!

[kpmom]

Hmmm, how about a Christian being a fake Jew? Sounds awfully deceptive to me.

And what's with Christians complaining about the fertility goddess? I thought they prized fertility above all else?

ETA: Interesting blog. Her middle daughter looks like she's wearing jeans, but yet mom's all covered up.

ETA again: Her oldest daughter is wearing a strapless, very modern wedding gown.

So, I'll give her a some credit for appearing not to force her clothing styles, at least, on her kids.

[bbfreethinker]

Check out this post:

plaintorahkeeper.blogspot.com/2012/03/major-errors-of-historical-christianity.html

Apparently Christians and Jews are both doing it wrong.

[fluttershies]

Many churches have a Passover seder as part of their Holy Week programme - my old church had one every Maundy Thursday. And it's true that eggs and rabbits have nothing to do with the religious context of Easter. However, surely you can do Easter without the eggs and bunnies (although it might be less fun) in the same way you can do Christmas without commercialism? I just don't see why you can't just do away with the unnecessary parts of festivals, and not co-opt another faith's ones. It's not like there's a seder in the Bible either?

IMO, having been around a lot of FakeJews, a lot of it seems to come from a lack of community in their old churches, and Judaism has a very attractive sense of community and it being a way of life and not just a once a week thing - and sadly so many of these women (and it IS by and large the women who get into the lifestyle) don't see that it's being fundie and holier than thou that results in a lack of community, and that goes for FakeJews AND Christians. It's fixing the symptoms, not addressing the problems. These women really have a problem finding meaning in their lives, and it's sad - though that doesn't excuse being a FakeJew.

I get the impression that a more ritualistic branch of Christianity would suit them better, but the anti-Catholic mentality means they wouldn't ever consider it. I wonder how many of them were raised Catholic before going Protestant then fundie - I know Jacque Dixon was.

[Conuly]

It's not like there's a seder in the Bible either?

The Last Supper, maybe?

[gardenvarietycitizen]

It's "Resurrection Sunday" don't cha know!

Came in here to post this, good to see it's covered! :D

[fluttershies]

The Last Supper, maybe?

Oh sure, I think it probably was a seder - but I meant that there's no commandment to have a seder, just to remember Jesus with bread and wine. No mention of lamb bones or any other part of a seder.

[browngrl]

Check out this post:

plaintorahkeeper.blogspot.com/2012/03/major-errors-of-historical-christianity.html

Apparently Christians and Jews are both doing it wrong.

Her meal was : triscuits + bitter herbs + grape juice. Turns out I had a religious meal too. I had a snack of triscuits, brie and arugula and grapes yesterday. I am blessed!

[notsocommon]

Oh sure, I think it probably was a seder - but I meant that there's no commandment to have a seder, just to remember Jesus with bread and wine. No mention of lamb bones or any other part of a seder.

The passover feast if a foretelling of Jesus. Some Christians celebrate because of the symbolism and meaning.

As far as the seder plate, everything is symbolic http://www.chabad.org/holidays/passover ... uction.htm

[Koala]

Her meal was : triscuits + bitter herbs + grape juice. Turns out I had a religious meal too. I had a snack of triscuits, brie and arugula and grapes yesterday. I am blessed!

I always feel a bit more holy after eating Triscuits. Now that I know it's a YAH approved snack I understand why.

[snarkbillie]

When I was fundie light I would try to celebrate Easter without Easter thingies up to and including calling it "Resurrection Sunday" rather than Easter. My kids got baskets but they didn't have eggs or bunnies or any Easter themed candy. I can't even explain how fucking hard it was finding non-spring themed candy at this time of year. I kinda got over myself a bit and did Easter baskets properly for the first year 3-4 years ago and that was the first year of a "real Halloween" rather than Fall Festival. It was all downhill from there. Not fundie light anymore.

[fundifugee]

plaintorahkeeper.blogspot.com/2012/04/we-had-got-our-passover-seder-done-last.html

Highlights:

Because we all like the fertility goddess Easter way better than the story of a nice fella being tortured to death on a rack, or the story of Mean God going around massacring children for fun. I'll take the goddess any day.

[MamaJunebug]

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IMO, having been around a lot of FakeJews, a lot of it seems to come from a lack of community in their old churches, and Judaism has a very attractive sense of community and it being a way of life and not just a once a week thing - and sadly so many of these women (and it IS by and large the women who get into the lifestyle) don't see that it's being fundie and holier than thou that results in a lack of community, and that goes for FakeJews AND Christians. It's fixing the symptoms, not addressing the problems. ....

This. Said another way, in my observation: for all too many members of churches, being a Methodist or Lutheran, etc., is PART of your identity, while being a Jew IS your identity.

Part of the solution is to emphasize Christ's work before insisting on our own works. But that's not the point of this topic. ;)

I smile benignly at the Resurrection Day terminology, having been taught that EVERY Sunday is a celebration of the Resurrection.

Apologies for the all-caps in lieu of formatting - it's just easier for me on the Smart (?) Phone

:)

[fundiefan]

Yeah, Candy put up her traditional Easter is pagan, there is no such thing as good Friday, post. The fundies who need to be more special than other fundies go on the same tirades every year.

Too bad for them that their god will send them to hell for celebrating and enjoying and acknowledging. It's got to make life suck to extremes to not be able to do anything for fear of eternal hell. It's also got to suck to condemn everyone around you. That's got to suck all your energy.

[Swamptribe]

Went to the farmers market downtown this am. There were hundreds of families lining up in the town square with their Easter baskets for the town egg hunt. They were all so cute. Especially when they played the Hokey Pokey and then the Macarena over the loud speakers. Watching a toddler and their grandpa do that is a hoot.

Go celebrate the fertility of the spring adorable tiny children. Enjoy it with the multigenerations of your family.

[Cran]

More than her self-righteousness, this "fertility goddess" stuff ticks me off.

Beda Venerabilis claims that the name for Easter derives from a Germanic goddess named Eostrae, and one of the brothers Grimm ;) made this to "Ostara" - in the 19th century!

Beda was born around 672, in a strictly Christian environment, so he had no first-hand knowledge (or any real knowledge at all) about the old gods, and for the lack of other sources, it is really ridiculous how this Easter/Ostara thing has taken hold. Further proof that fundies are not interested in real knowledge only in picking and choosing so they can feel better than anyone else and so special.

[ilovetchotchkes]

And furthermore who CARES? you know? who cares ? Like, the flood story in Jewish tradition is very similar to the Gilgamesh epic. But we don't run around screaming "oh Jews can't read the Noah's ark story because it MIGHT BE BASED ON SOMETHING ELSE" :roll: :roll:

Essentially these people won't be happy until we're back to 1st century Christianity, stoning people for working on the sabbath. And even THEN they'll bitch that its not "biblical" or "authentic"

[kpmom]

I always loved the idea that the Christian holidays had some pagan roots and traditions. I like the feeling that we're all connected even if our beliefs (or non-beliefs) seem very different.

I also like the idea that Passover and Easter are often celebrated near each other. There's nothing frightening about the fact that we're more alike than we are different. Why is it such an issue with fundies?

[fundiefan]

I always loved the idea that the Christian holidays had some pagan roots and traditions. I like the feeling that we're all connected even if our beliefs (or non-beliefs) seem very different.

I also like the idea that Passover and Easter are often celebrated near each other. There's nothing frightening about the fact that we're more alike than we are different. Why is it such an issue with fundies?

I've always believed it's an issue with fundies because they are living in fear. Fear that they are not right and don't know the one big truth and have doubts. If others are not like them, they don't have any validation for their beliefs or actions. They aren't comfortable in their choices or beliefs so in order to convince themselves, they have to become 'special'. Better than anyone else; more holy; more pious.

If they acknowledge for even one second that other people can be just as 'saved' as they are; that other's can be content and holy and godly and spiritual, even if they are not like the fundies, then they would have to acknowledge that they don't have all the answers and don't know the secrets of their god and aren't special. And, most of all, it would mean that they aren't special.

[Lady]

ETA: Interesting blog. Her middle daughter looks like she's wearing jeans, but yet mom's all covered up.

ETA again: Her oldest daughter is wearing a strapless, very modern wedding gown.

So, I'll give her a some credit for appearing not to force her clothing styles, at least, on her kids.

I give her props for that. Yes, she's crazy but she keeps it to herself.

[fluttershies]

The passover feast if a foretelling of Jesus. Some Christians celebrate because of the symbolism and meaning.

As far as the seder plate, everything is symbolic http://www.chabad.org/holidays/passover ... uction.htm

I am aware of both of those things - I said upthread that many churches have a seder. However, it's a tradition and not a commandment.

[fluttershies]

One person had commented here that we were getting rid of one tradition to just do another, and that is not so. Another ignorant person from Free Jinger who does not know anything about the Word of GOD because the Bible is spiritually discerned.

That was me. I never mentioned Free Jinger, although I did mention that I am Episcopalian/Anglican. I really don't know why she feels entitled to be so RUDE.

[gardenvarietycitizen]

Steve-O reminds us today that his family doesn't do any of that egg stuff, either.

Just wanted to wish you and your family a Happy Easter! Any special plans for the weekend? Do you celebrate with both sides of your familiies? How about Melanie’s and Anna’s(Chris’)? Do the little girls have an Easter Egg hunt after Church?

Thank you. We have a family dinner late afternoon with Nathan’s and Christopher’s family. Gigi and Grandad will join us as well. We don’t do “eggs†“bunnies†or the like. We focus on the Lord Jesus.

Blessings.

...which has me wondering, does anyone make chocolate Jesuses for this market?

Two years ago I was in Italy for Easter, all the stores sold large (about a foot tall or so) hollow chocolate eggs with a toy or trinket (or lottery ticket, etc - you name it) inside and wrapped in fancy paper. They come in a little stand so you can stand them up on the table. There were eggs aimed at kids, eggs aimed at adults, you can even custom order an egg to put your own special personalized gift in (ring for proposal, for instance). Best part was that lots of good high quality dark chocolate makers were making these. Quite tasty.

The malls had giant replicas of these in common areas, sort of how malls put up Xmas trees in the US. It was pretty cool.

Here in the US the colored foil wrapped eggs by Dove are pretty good. Here's hoping they go on crazy sale come Monday.

[Conuly]

...which has me wondering, does anyone make chocolate Jesuses for this market?

I don't care if it rains or freezes, so long as I can eat that chocolate Jesus, survival rations stored in my car....