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I can't believe the attitude toward money on here. You all act as if money is no object and we should just spend into obviation. Well, when this generation dies, the future generations are going be left with your pathetic pile of debt. Oh, I guess we could just print some more money to pay it off though.

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Wow. Money is no object to me when it comes to saving someone's life and getting them the health care they need. I'll gladly pay for taxes to see that no one goes without the care they need. Aren't you supposed to be a Christian?

jericho worships GOP Fight Club Jesus.

And does this have anything to do with fundies? Other than the fact that jericho is one?

**ETA: I heart Hyperbole and a Half. That macro is perfect, Boogalou.

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I can't believe the attitude toward money on here. You all act as if money is no object and we should just spend into obviation. Well, when this generation dies, the future generations are going be left with your pathetic pile of debt. Oh, I guess we could just print some more money to pay it off though.

I can't believe your attitude of putting money before people. So you have to pay higher taxes, have less material objects, but other people can get health care.

Do you think we should just close all public schools and not make educationing children the law to save money too?

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So you're opposed to public schools and education for all children? Is that what you are saying? I know people who homeschool who have nothing against public schools and have used them too. I know of a family personally who has 10 children, they homeschooled until high school and sent each child to the local public school knowing they couldn't teach at that level and they needed more highly skilled teachers. They also felt a diploma was better than a GED. Homeschoolers don't have to be anti-public schools.

I'm not against choosing public school, but I am for lots of options. And the reason we choose to home school is because of the dysfunction and inefficiencies. It's just not an environment we feel comfortable putting our child into.

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And you're acting like having lots of money is the only thing worth having here.

Not lots of money. Just being out of debt.

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jericho worships GOP Fight Club Jesus.

And does this have anything to do with fundies? Other than the fact that jericho is one?

**ETA: I heart Hyperbole and a Half. That macro is perfect, Boogalou.

I was about to say something about how this forum has become more of a liberal/progressive talk board than a fundie board. I like to snark on Fundies which is why I originally came here, but apparently you can't snark on fundies and be a republican/conservative here.

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Saying you should only get decent healthcare if you have the money for it is like saying the richer you are, the better you are. There is something seriously wrong with your country if you have to pawn your house and possessions for treatment. It discriminates against the poor.

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I was about to say something about how this forum has become more of a liberal/progressive talk board than a fundie board. I like to snark on Fundies which is why I originally came here, but apparently you can't snark on fundies and be a republican/conservative here.

Still doesn't explain your original post. That had no snark and no fundies. So if anyone is to blame by the shift in focus, it would be you.

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Saying you should only get decent healthcare if you have the money for it is like saying the richer you are, the better you are. There is something seriously wrong with your country if you have to pawn your house and possessions for treatment. It discriminates against the poor.

No, no, no, freejoytoo. Don't you understand? It's the fault of the poor that they're poor, so it's okay to ignore their needs. :roll:

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And it's their fault for needing major surgery which bankrupts them too, I assume :roll:

Socialised healthcare is fair healthcare!

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Still doesn't explain your original post. That had no snark and no fundies. So if anyone is to blame by the shift in focus, it would be you.

Oh, this is rich. Not to mention hilarious. :laughing-rofl:

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Oh, this is rich. Not to mention hilarious. :laughing-rofl:

Looks like today was not a mandatory SDORT day at jericho's house. Oh yea it must be an independent study day :roll:

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Saying you should only get decent healthcare if you have the money for it is like saying the richer you are, the better you are. There is something seriously wrong with your country if you have to pawn your house and possessions for treatment. It discriminates against the poor.

Who was saying that? I am all for helping the needy, just not as a government agency.

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Oh, this is rich. Not to mention hilarious. :laughing-rofl:

With all the political talk going on here I thought it was relevant. Mods can delete this thread if they want.

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I was about to say something about how this forum has become more of a liberal/progressive talk board than a fundie board. I like to snark on Fundies which is why I originally came here, but apparently you can't snark on fundies and be a republican/conservative here.

*sigh* here we go again. Listen, you can and you are. No one is stopping you. Stop being so damn dramatic. You are posting your idiotic bullshit and no one is deleting it or deleting you. You're still here, still posting. What you really mean is you can't post whatever you want and get patted on the head. :roll: Get over it.

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Why? Fox news is a mainstream news source. If you want to start nitpicking sources you could find fault with practically any source.

Mainstream in your head, maybe. Study after study shows that people who watch that channel are misinformed about basic, basic things.

I can't believe the attitude toward money on here. You all act as if money is no object and we should just spend into obviation. Well, when this generation dies, the future generations are going be left with your pathetic pile of debt. Oh, I guess we could just print some more money to pay it off though.

If you're so concerned about the budget, I can think of a few things we can cut. For example, we could shrink our military significantly and start spending somewhat LESS than 50% of our national budget on them.

I am all for helping the needy, just not as a government agency.

Well, then, put your money where your mouth is and do that. Because right now? The system we've got where "charity" covers it? It's not working.

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If you have more money you're going to get better healthcare, if you don't have enough money for treatment you're not going to get as good a level and you will probably lose everything you have in the process paying for it.

What's wrong with government-run healthcare? Countries like Norway have it and they have the best standard of living in the world. You trust the government to run schools so why not healthcare?

Seriously, the USA is supposedly the most developed country but from what I'm seeing you can potentially die from a toothache if you don't have the cash to treat it. That's not something you should be proud of.

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No, no, no, freejoytoo. Don't you understand? It's the fault of the poor that they're poor, so it's okay to ignore their needs. :roll:

Why do people keep putting words in my mouth? I would never say that.

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With all the political talk going on here I thought it was relevant. Mods can delete this thread if they want.

Its a free speech zone honey. Time for you to read the TOS/Rules.

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And the point is...what exactly? Of course health care will be expensive to get to everyone, but I will gladly pay more taxes to insure that everyone gets the health care they need. This shouldn't be a political issue like it is with party divides. This should be about the people of this country getting the doctors and care and treatment they need. We are basically the only first world country that sees no issue with letting its citizens go without care and treatment they need because insurance is seen as a commodity.

:clap: This is exactly how I feel.

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Why do people keep putting words in my mouth? I would never say that.

Naw, you just said that single mothers and their children should be sent back in time to the 1900's, because that would be better for them than living in the modern day United States. Child labor, starvation, ninety hour work weeks, and insufficient, strings attached, church provided charity for all!

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I can't believe the attitude toward money on here. You all act as if money is no object and we should just spend into obviation. Well, when this generation dies, the future generations are going be left with your pathetic pile of debt. Oh, I guess we could just print some more money to pay it off though.

Please stop using the phrase "print more money". The method by which more money is in the economy has nothing to do with the cash that is printed. More money is generated through the money multiplier principle. Essentially, when people put money in banks, the money doesn't just sit there. The bank lends in out. As a result the money is doing multiple things: you own it, but a company/individual is also using it- thus more money in use. The Federal Reserve regulates this effect by controlling several factors such as the minimum amount of money that banks must keep and not lend out and also the interest rates on intra-bank loans and the interest rate on loans from the Fed (which also serves as the banker's bank).

Backing paper money with precious minerals cannot solve issues of inflation or control the amount of money in circulation.

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I'm not against choosing public school, but I am for lots of options. And the reason we choose to home school is because of the dysfunction and inefficiencies. It's just not an environment we feel comfortable putting our child into.

But if we cut out the public option for education and didn't make it illegal to not educate your kids, the country would save so much money.

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Show me some stats. And not just stats relating to Fox News but all news organizations. Don't show me a one sided report about how dumb fox news viewers are when viewers of other news channels are probably just as misinformed.

Well, then, put your money where your mouth is and do that. Because right now? The system we've got where "charity" covers it? It's not working.

And it won't until the government steps out and stops squashing all the little independent organizations who help the poor privately. People won't learn to help until there is a reason to help.

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