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Iowa School Hires Hate Group To Preach Against Abortion And Gay Marriage

Students said the assembly started well with music, as well as a message focusing on how some music can have a bad influence on kids. The event then switched to a discussion on gays and abortion, students said. Comments about homosexuality were offensive to some students, including seventh-grader Adam Manahl...The girls, meanwhile, were told to save themselves for their husbands and assume a submissive role in the household. According to witnesses, the leader in that effort also forced the young ladies to chant a manta of sorts about remaining pure. Those who walked out or attempted to confront the speakers were shouted down or ridiculed as disrespectful, according to students.

This happened at a public school.

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And paid them $1,500! The principal has apologized, but whoever inked that contract should be forced to reimburse the school district.

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I'm writing the superintendent just to be a bitch. I don't care if he apologized. I mean, did I really read that the damn thing lasted 3 hours? Someone should have ushered those ass-clowns off the stage within 5 minutes.

jstanton (at) dunkerton.k12.ia.us

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No surprise, unfortunately. Different groups are always trying to sneak Jesus into the public schools.

I hope someone has alerted Americans United or the FFRF.

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Just a few months ago, we had Team Impact, the muscle bound baseball bat breakers for Jesus at my daughter's school. No advance notice to the parents, they even sent home an invitation that looked like a superhero trading card for the kids to get their parents to bring them to Second Baptist. The Freedom From Religion Foundation sent the district a letter, and I sent them a donation, but it will not surprise me one bit if they try to pull this shit next year.

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Junkyard Prophet is part of an Annandale, Minn., nonprofit group called You Can Run But You Cannot Hide, which promotes itself as a Christian ministry.

I wouldn't have cared if this group got up and preached love, tolerance, rainbows and unicorns, they are a Christian (i.e. religious) ministry and have no place in a public school in the U.S. Seems like the separation between church and state just keeps getting chipped away little by little and it scares the shit out of me.

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I wouldn't have cared if this group got up and preached love, tolerance, rainbows and unicorns, they are a Christian (i.e. religious) ministry and have no place in a public school in the U.S. Seems like the separation between church and state just keeps getting chipped away little by little and it scares the shit out of me.

I am so sick of people trying to put this stuff over. If it's not one angle, it's another. Same shit, different day. Take a fucking hint, people.

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This is nothing new. Christian groups have been speaking "generic" non-religious messages at a public school assemblies for decades. What usually happens is during the school assembly, they invite the students to a Church or off-campus location after school in the evening where they present a "gospel" message or concert. Like it or not, its not some new tactic that just crept up.

As for the group in the news story link, it seems they went way beyond a "generic" message.

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I might also add that there is no clear definition as to what is a "Christian" group is. Some might define it as the members claim to be Christians. Others might define it as having a clear association with an organization that is overtly Christian. There is no national "Christian" affiliation group that I know of ranking speaking groups as "Christian", so really its open for opinion.

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If I had to sign off on a speech by the President of the United States, I want to be consulted any time some organization with a "message" has access to my daughter.

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What I find even more worrisome than the fact that the school officials invited this group and allowed them to continue talking after they clearly crossed the line into illegality, is that fact that apparently few if any of the students who objected to the message had the sense to get up and walk out. Makes me wonder what else is being taught/omitted at that school.

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This is nothing new. Christian groups have been speaking "generic" non-religious messages at a public school assemblies for decades. What usually happens is during the school assembly, they invite the students to a Church or off-campus location after school in the evening where they present a "gospel" message or concert. Like it or not, its not some new tactic that just crept up.

As for the group in the news story link, it seems they went way beyond a "generic" message.

Very true. In New Mexico, several schools use to hire Christian ministry groups to deliever anti-drug messages. In the late 90's, I was in middle school and there was a Christian ministry music group that performed messages about not doing drugs. This particular ministry group spent a weekend at the local Baptist church which they invited students from the school to attend. A few of my friends got their parents to take them and they said the event at the church covered anti-abortion speeches and celibacy speeches too.

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If my high school had pulled this, I would have walked out. If anyone had tried to shame me for it, I probably would have told them to "fuck off" or "kiss my ass" and gladly have taken the detention or suspension for it.

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What I find even more worrisome than the fact that the school officials invited this group and allowed them to continue talking after they clearly crossed the line into illegality, is that fact that apparently few if any of the students who objected to the message had the sense to get up and walk out. Makes me wonder what else is being taught/omitted at that school.

Many schools have police officers present all of the time. Even when I was in high school ten years ago if someone refused to do as they were told and continued to openly defy a teacher they risked arrest. Those students are kids, I think it's ridiculous to blame them for not staging an impromptu coup d'etat.

Especially considering that:

Those who walked out or attempted to confront the speakers were shouted down or ridiculed as disrespectful, according to students.
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I wouldn't have cared if this group got up and preached love, tolerance, rainbows and unicorns, they are a Christian (i.e. religious) ministry and have no place in a public school in the U.S. Seems like the separation between church and state just keeps getting chipped away little by little and it scares the shit out of me.

That's the long and the short of it. Don't need religious I instruction in public school. We can handle that at home, thanks.

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I have never understood why schools bring in Junkyard Prophet. They are way to the right, patriarchal side. I listened to their radio show when they had the Pearls on. Ack

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What I find even more worrisome than the fact that the school officials invited this group and allowed them to continue talking after they clearly crossed the line into illegality, is that fact that apparently few if any of the students who objected to the message had the sense to get up and walk out. Makes me wonder what else is being taught/omitted at that school.

Yeah...except it's not always as easy as just walking out. When you live in an area where the high schools keep police on staff (the main officer as my school was a gigantic prick), then it's easier to stay put and listen to what's said so you can speak out against all of it later. At my high school, you only got out of an assembly if you ditched from the start instead of going at all.

It's asking a lot of teenagers, who really are still just kids, to expect one or two to stand up in front of the entire school and order a coup. I was a very outspoken, pain-in-the-ass teenager (a teacher who was very much in the wrong found herself screamed at by me in front of the entire class because her demands and expectations were unreasonable, and she had just failed an entire group because a modification to a recipe she required us to make was exactly what ruined it - using chopped nuts in place of flour in a cookie recipe is, well, recipe for failure - and I was tired of it after a full semester of her shit), but expecting even me to stand up in front of a whole school would be asking for the moon. I can't imagine expecting any teenager to do it. Teenagers are still afraid of looking stupid in front of their crushes. What if no one else stands up and that student looks stupid or gets in trouble at home?

One of the TEACHERS should have stood up and called an end to the assembly. That no ADULT stood up is what concerns me about that school.

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The teachers may have been just as intimidated as the kids - budgets are being cut and nobody can afford to lose their job. Last year we had a new superintendent who wanted to put magnet and GT schools on the chopping block. My teacher friend had just transferred into our district, had a son in GT at my daughter's school, and would not attend the community meetings. In spite of 17 years experience, she was afraid of losing her job while she was the new girl in town. The blame lies with the dimwit who approved this idiocy.

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My e-mail to Mr. Stanton:

It seems I was not thorough enough in my initial reading of the news article.  You invited this group to come and mistreat your students and used public funds to do it.  If I had to sign off on a televised speech by President Obama, then I expect to be informed ahead of time of any group with a "message" seeking to gain access to my child.  You failed to do your due diligence, you failed to seek consent from the parents, you used district money to violate the constitution and allowed those students under your care to be verbally abused and intimidated.  We had a similar group visit my child's school last semester and I am still angry at the usurping of my right to oversee her religious education.

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Begin forwarded message:

From: Monica

Date: March 12, 2012 5:55:20 PM CDT

To: "jstanton@dunkerton.k12.ia.us"

Subject: Junkyard Prophet

An apology is nowhere near enough to compensate for allowing a known hate group onto a school campus to bully students - a captive audience - for three hours.  Five minutes of research on the Internet would have revealed this is a hate group.  Whoever invited this group and inked the contract should not only apologize, that person should reimburse the district the $1,500 this group was paid for its abuse and resign their post immediately.

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As soon as I find the e-mail for the school board, I'll be sending them a copy.

Edited to remove my e-mail address.

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This is nothing new. Christian groups have been speaking "generic" non-religious messages at a public school assemblies for decades. What usually happens is during the school assembly, they invite the students to a Church or off-campus location after school in the evening where they present a "gospel" message or concert.

Right, can I do that on behalf of the Socialist Workers' Party then. I am sure you would be fine with that. It would only be a generic message, innit. Of course, I would be trying to recruit afterwards, but that's OK, right?

The purity and abstinence things are NOT generic and non religious. That is clearly agenda driven. "Doing drugs is illegal and can have bad consequences" is a statement of fact. "Keep yourself pure sexually till marriage" is a religious belief.

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