Susanna Keller single?

[formergothardite]

would it have been better if on the night this happened i logged in on here and shared the info than? I was simply verifying what someone else said when people were doubting what she was saying is true. Its a fact, it happened, lets move on and stop being rude to eachother. I guess we should have a list of who not to touch or speak about on here, because If i had known this was going to cause such a stir than I wouldnt have mentioned anything!

No, sharing private info that is available to only friends has always been frowned upon. KISA got bashed for it and so did that one poster who posted screen shots of Lina and Meredith's private FB page.

[Deleted03]

No, sharing private info that is available to only friends has always been frowned upon. KISA got bashed for it and so did that one poster who posted screen shots of Lina and Meredith's private FB page.

well thank goddess no one screen shot that picture.. :S

[turquoise]

would it have been better if on the night this happened i logged in on here and shared the info than? I was simply verifying what someone else said when people were doubting what she was saying is true. Its a fact, it happened, lets move on and stop being rude to eachother. I guess we should have a list of who not to touch or speak about on here, because If i had known this was going to cause such a stir than I wouldnt have mentioned anything!

No, that would not have been better. It would have been better not to have shared that information at all.

If I am really concerned about someone who's had a difficult time, and want to act in their best interest, I don't post private information about them on a public message board. That's why I question the motives of the posters who claim to have seen these Facebook pictures. It looks like a mean-spirited attempt to embarrass her, wrapped up in "But I'm just telling the truth!"

There's no proof the pictures ever existed, and even if they did there's no proof that her FB account wasn't hacked.

[geniebelle6901]

would it have been better if on the night this happened i logged in on here and shared the info than? I was simply verifying what someone else said when people were doubting what she was saying is true. Its a fact, it happened, lets move on and stop being rude to each other. I guess we should have a list of who not to touch or speak about on here, because If i had known this was going to cause such a stir than I wouldn't have mentioned anything!

You know what? that's kind of hard to do when someone resurrects a thread just to post hearsay. You should have just kept your mouth shut rather than stir the pot. To be honest, I don't care if anything you said is true or not. But shame on you for doing this. Suze is trying to make a new life for his herself. What you did show shows how little you care for her or Nick, and it shows how childish you are.

[luv2laugh]

You know what? that's kind of hard to do when someone resurrects a thread just to post hearsay. You should have just kept your mouth shut rather than stir the pot. To be honest, I don't care if anything you said is true or not. But shame on you for doing this. Suze is trying to make a new life for his herself. What you did show shows how little you care for her or Nick, and it shows how childish you are.

I agree. If this was true, the average college student does worst things at parties than her. Leave her alone and no one here should be participating in harassment. Susanna is a beautiful young lady and I am excited about the opportunities that she has at her hands now that she has left the cult.

[eye_browz]

I wish I had photos to prove what I'm about to tell you.

I was friends on FB with her and one night, imagine my surprise, there's a pic of some guy completely naked and her (separate pic) in her underwear. She said that he knew she was engaged when he sent her the pic and that her pic was what she sent back. That's the night her account went dark for about three days.

Additionally, Nick posted on Daniel's page that he (Daniel) needed to stop encouraging Susanna to dump him (Nick) for random guys in FL. Candice was the only one to respond & Nick soon deleted his account too.

If I'd been smart I would have saved all these pages when it happened because "pics or it never happened" is so true.

I can confirm this. I saw it that night. I was on Facebook, minding my own business, and I scroll down and see Suzi, posing in a bra and panties (which didn't match by the way). Her hair was up in a bun or pony. She was taking a pic of herself with a bathroom mirror, like most teens these days. I was in shock. I rushed over to Free Jinger to see if anyone had posted about it. I lurk here, I rarely post. I didn't see anything about it. I want back to Facebook and saw a butt naked guy. He was kind of doughy in my opinion. I was shocked again. Apparently, he was a waiter if something and her fiance found out and posted it for the world to see. I went back to free jinger to check again to see kit anyone else saw this. Nope. Ent back to facebook and the pics were gone. I knew that I'm not a known poster here so I wasn't sure I would be trusted here, I thought I would be called a troll. Plus i wasn't sure if I should post it because we support ex fundies here, we don't expose them when they make mistakes. So I figured that I should wait a while ti see if someone else would post about it. A couple days later I posted on a thread about Suze, and I asked if anyone knew why thier Facebook's were deleted. I thought I was the only one who saw it, so I decided not to expose her. But now that its already posted about, I can confirm. Call me a hipocrite.

[treemom]

You know, s Keller is not in a lifestyle that is undermining to women's freedoms and would support a theocracy. She is pretty much off limits to me, because she isn't blogging or really trying to be a subject of the media like some other non fundies we discuss.

And not only is it none of my business, but even if it were I am inclined to give her a pass where I might not others because she has been sheltered and is figuring out the real world.

[formergothardite]

I can confirm this. I saw it that night. I was on Facebook, minding my own business, and I scroll down and see Suzi, posing in a bra and panties (which didn't match by the way). Her hair was up in a bun or pony. She was taking a pic of herself with a bathroom mirror, like most teens these days. I was in shock. I rushed over to Free Jinger to see if anyone had posted about it. I lurk here, I rarely post. I didn't see anything about it. I want back to Facebook and saw a butt naked guy. He was kind of doughy in my opinion. I was shocked again. Apparently, he was a waiter if something and her fiance found out and posted it for the world to see. I went back to free jinger to check again to see kit anyone else saw this. Nope. Ent back to facebook and the pics were gone. I knew that I'm not a known poster here so I wasn't sure I would be trusted here, I thought I would be called a troll. Plus i wasn't sure if I should post it because we support ex fundies here, we don't expose them when they make mistakes. So I figured that I should wait a while ti see if someone else would post about it. A couple days later I posted on a thread about Suze, and I asked if anyone knew why thier Facebook's were deleted. I thought I was the only one who saw it, so I decided not to expose her. But now that its already posted about, I can confirm. Call me a hipocrite.

No, I'll call you a hypocrite. If it is a private FB page and she friended you thinking that you were a real friend not someone who would share private info with a snark board, that is low.

[Boogalou]

With friends like this who needs enemies a snark board? If these supposed pictures were only viewable to people on her friends list it's really inappropriate to be posting about it here. If they were publicly viewable I still don't think they should be discussed here, especially if she didn't post them herself.

[luckylibrarian]

Plus i wasn't sure if I should post it because we support ex fundies here, we don't expose them when they make mistakes. So I figured that I should wait a while ti see if someone else would post about it. A couple days later I posted on a thread about Suze, and I asked if anyone knew why thier Facebook's were deleted. I thought I was the only one who saw it, so I decided not to expose her. But now that its already posted about, I can confirm. Call me a hipocrite.

What is there to expose? There's no proof that the photos existed. If the photos did exist, you seem to indicate that they were posted by her fiance - which is a shitty, shitty thing to do. It's a violation of her privacy. There's nothing to "expose" here, except that her ex-fiance is a douche.

I find it interesting that the only people who can confirm this are posters with just a few dozen posts or in one case, just one post.

[geniebelle6901]

Oh, but you did expose her, maybe not in pictures, but you exposed her nonetheless. You 3 who claim to have seen these pictures on her private Facebook page and then posted about should be ashamed of yourselves. Grow the hell up!

[3 is enough]

Susanna had the courage to leave the cult and live in the real world. Then she got engaged to the first guy she dated after she left the bubble. IIRC, he is almost 10 years older than her. It's not entirely surprising that it didn't work out for them. Breaking off an engagement is painful, but a divorce would be worse. I just hope that the breakup doesn't push her back to her parents. Somehow I don't think that would end well.

[Mamajane]

I thought it was odd how he was so much older than her. She is only 19 and to be engaged so fast to someone doesnt seem like a logical thing to do. Its obvious how much he truly cared about her by posting those awful things. Im sure ma and pa keller are sitting back and saying I told you so and that has to be far more painful than nick posting some stupid pics on facebook....

[Georgiana]

I come from a Conservative Christian family, though not NEARLY Keller-level, and I did something like this when I left. It's SCARY to leave the world you are used to, and A LOT of us rush into something for the support/familiarity. You try to re-create the support of the family unit you left with a relationship. It's not right, but it's a natural human urge. The thing is, you get into this relationship and then you don't know how to get out, because no one has taught you how to break off a relationship properly before and you've never seen it done. Consciously, you try your hardest to make it work, but subconsciously all you are looking for is a way to sabotage the relationship so you can get out. Because YOU don't know how to leave, so you need HIM to leave you.

I've seen this happen with almost every one of my friends who has also left the Conservative lifestyle. And you know what? WE all still had family support, we just didn't have the knowledge of how to get out of a relationship gone too far or how to admit that our relationship wasn't perfect (to others or to ourselves).

This doesn't make Suze a bad person. It makes her a normal person who has to learn as an adult what most people learned in their teens. It happens. It happens to awesome people, and it happens to bad people too. Most people get these mistakes out of their systems when they are young and the stakes aren't as high. Not everyone has that luxury.

I'm sure Suze has learned plenty from this. And I'm sure that she will make more mistakes because that is part of learning. And I'm sure that even though she has a lot to make up for because of the failures of her parents to be parents, she will make up for all of it and become an awesome adult living the lifestyle that SHE chooses. And I hope she understands that this doesn't make her a horrible person/woman. And that someday, this will make her a BETTER person!

[Georgiana]

Also, break-ups and/or the last straw are often very public, while the intimate details are not. Don't judge someone for how they end a relationship until you know all the details of how they were treated in the relationship. And if you don't know all the details of the relationship, don't judge. Some of the biggest d-bags I have ever seen my friends date were MASTERS at making themselves look like the perfect bf's/innocent victims of the break up. In the end, I didn't care HOW dirty the break up looked to the outside world, I knew the deets, and I knew the important thing was that they got away from those a-holes.

I am not saying that Nick is, but I am saying that I will not judge this break up unless I have enough information to also judge the relationship.

ETA: I didn't realize Nick was 10 years her senior! My ex was also quite a bit my senior, and lo and behold, the reason he was SO SUPPORTIVE of my leaving was because he wanted to step right in and fill that void in a very controlling way. Someone who has just left a cultish background and hasn't had time to mature on their own is something controlling/emotionally abusive partners look for because they can easily be manipulated into becoming co-dependent and they don't know enough to spot small relationship red flags. Normal guys, especially normal older guys, will want you to come into the relationship mature and healthy. If an older guy is looking for a younger AND immature/vulnerable girl, that is creepy for a reason!

[Anise]

FYI, huethergirl-mamajane-eyebrows

The correct response is break out mops and buckets, not what appears to be sock puppets (personally my credulity doesn't cover three lurkers of a snark forum who somehow all befriended Susanna on facebook but aren't her friends and who somehow all saw pictures which were supposedly up for only seconds late at night).

[eye_browz]

What is there to expose? There's no proof that the photos existed. If the photos did exist, you seem to indicate that they were posted by her fiance - which is a shitty, shitty thing to do. It's a violation of her privacy. There's nothing to "expose" here, except that her ex-fiance is a douche.

I find it interesting that the only people who can confirm this are posters with just a few dozen posts or in one case, just one post.

The pictures were online for only a few minutes. Like several people here, I befriended her on facebook. If I recall correctly, she had 500 to 1000 friends. She added me when I requested to be her friend. I added her because I learned from this board that she was engaged. I wanted to see pictures of her prepping for the wedding, or any details that she might post. I don't know her at all, but have always wished her well. I can't speak for everyone, but I love weddings. I became an avid Duggar watcher after I curiously tuned into Josh's wedding. To be frank, I'm patiently waiting for Zach Bates to get married.

Everyone has their opinion on the matter and at the end of the day, I don't have any proof. Like I said, I'm a lurker here. I lurk at TWOP, DWOP, and here. For years. There's no real proof of that either. I understand why you all maybe upset with me. I just saw people attacking the other posters and I saw it with my own eyes. If it makes people feel better, I won't post here again.

[Georgiana]

The pictures were online for only a few minutes. Like several people here, I befriended her on facebook. If I recall correctly, she had 500 to 1000 friends. She added me when I requested to be her friend. I added her because I learned from this board that she was engaged. I wanted to see pictures of her prepping for the wedding, or any details that she might post. I don't know her at all, but have always wished her well. I can't speak for everyone, but I love weddings. I became an avid Duggar watcher after I curiously tuned into Josh's wedding. To be frank, I'm patiently waiting for Zach Bates to get married.

Everyone has their opinion on the matter and at the end of the day, I don't have any proof. Like I said, I'm a lurker here. I lurk at TWOP, DWOP, and here. For years. There's no real proof of that either. I understand why you all maybe upset with me. I just saw people attacking the other posters and I saw it with my own eyes. If it makes people feel better, I won't post here again.

Whether or not you post here again is up to you, we've all made posts we came to regret. It is sort of an unwritten rule (or maybe I need to re-read the terms and it is in there) that we only discuss public information. For me, it is important that I respect other people's privacy, even people I do not agree with. If they did not make something public, I do not have the right to decide that for them and put it out there, you know? ESPECIALLY on the internet, which has a long memory.

If you think about this situation from Susanna's perspective, now this will come up with a simple Google search of her name. And a lot of people will Google potential mates/in laws. To make this public should have been HER decision; it isn't fair that someone else made that decision for her. I don't want to sound like a hand-slapper, because honestly, you have to do what you want. But I do want you to know why I think this was a low thing to do. At the end of the day though, that's my own personal code of conduct talking.

Now, if she had made this public herself, then it would be open season.

A good rule of thumb is proof (which is why a lot of people are getting on you about that). Could you link someone to it to back up the claim? If yes, then it is public. If no, then it might be private.

[eye_browz]

A good rule of thumb is proof (which is why a lot of people are getting on you about that). Could you link someone to it to back up the claim? If yes, then it is public. If no, then it might be private.

No. I saw it one minute, and just like that, it was gone. I'm not tech savy, so I don't know how to make screen shots on the computers. I understand everything you're saying. You're right. I should not have confirmed what I saw.I can't speak for the other posters, but I don't think they meant any harm. Can I suggest that we delete this whole thread? I know this sounds crazy coming from me, but I don't want her family to find out about this.

[Witsec5]

Is there a way to erase her name from the

Google search listings? She is entitled to her privacy.

[fundyfunland]

Ugh! DFTT!

Anyone for some cake porn?

[fundyfunland]

FTR the above cake.....BEST. CAKE. EVER!!!!

[ElphabaGalinda]

Ugh! DFTT!

Anyone for some cake porn?

I want this cake soooo much!!!

[Deleted03]

Strangely I tend to dislike chocolate cake, particularly the creamy stuff. I usually prefer cakes with fruits.

[geniebelle6901]

Ugh! DFTT!

Anyone for some cake porn?

Now that's torture to someone who can't have chocolate. But I bet a coconut one with strawberries would be divine!