Any guesses on current denomination for this Quiverful mom?

[holierthanyou]

I sometimes watch a few Canadian quiverful blogs (they are few and far between, and never nearly so entertaining as the American counterparts though!), but this one I can't figure out what church/denomination the family currently is a part of.

 

http://quiverfullfamily.com/2008/05/03/my-testimony/

 

Do any smarter/better researcher FJers have an idea?

[meda]

http://www.alphausa.org/Groups/10000653 ... epage.aspx

Here is the link for the bible study she mentions

[fundiefan]

No clue, really, but of course in her testimony she tells of having been involved with the occoult.

You aren't a truly born again, bible believing Christian if you haven't come to it from the occult or drugs or promiscuity. No testimony is complete without at least one of those being included in your evil past before your found Jesus and he washed away all your sins - even the worst of the worst sins.

I'd guess, only by her testimony and being baptized in a pool that she is IFB, or at least a "True Bible Believing Christian" who claims on denomination because all you need is the KJV.

ETA: I shouldn't have commented until I read further because, of course, she was also a drinker and fornicator and into drugs. I wonder who writes the scripts for these testimonies; they all sound the same.

[holierthanyou]

Yes, the Alpha Bible study is used by numerous denominations, I think it is supposed to be seen as inter-denominational. I thought it was used more often by mainstream (e.g. Episcopalian, Presbyterian, etc) denominations, but since she is Quiverful, SAHM, homeschooler, modest dress, head covering, refering to God/Jesus as "Yehoshua" and having a headship, I am pretty sure she is not mainstream.

[fundiefun]

"We also believe in biblical roles for men and women, modest dress, headcoverings, courtship for our children, self-employment as the norm, psalm singing – we’re just full of conviction here".

They sound like plain Christians or some form of that

[Jessica]

You aren't a truly born again, bible believing Christian if you haven't come to it from the occult or drugs or promiscuity. No testimony is complete without at least one of those being included in your evil past before your found Jesus and he washed away all your sins - even the worst of the worst sins.

:lol: It's true! It can never be that they were just saved from a fairly boring or average lifestyle. When I got saved the worst thing I'd ever done was steal a candy as a kid, swear a few times, and listen to "Sympathy for the Devil" by the Rolling tones a few too many times. Not dramatic enough!

[BogoPogo1]

My guess is IFB.

[holierthanyou]

Do IFB use "Yeshua" often in reference to God? Maybe some of them do and it's just not common at the ones I've visited?

[WanderingStar]

Do IFB use "Yeshua" often in reference to God? Maybe some of them do and it's just not common at the ones I've visited?

Well first, just to gently point out, Yeshua is the Hebrew name for Jesus, not God. I found out that the name Jesus is actually another variant on the name Joshua, and apparently, so is Yeshua. Secondly, I'm not sure if the use of Yeshua by IFB members is typical. I have a NLT version Bible and in the portions that are all text, he is called Jesus. But the "manga" portions of the Bible (yeah, I pretty much chose that Bible just for that ^^;; ) refer to him as Yeshua. By the same token, Mary is called Miriam in that part as well.

I do have to laugh a little at her testimony because it does sound like many others. I didn't go through that much before I got saved and I'm sure many other Christians have a similar, anticlimactic story about it too. I admit that I was going through some pretty serious depression when I sort of rededicated myself to Christ later in my teens but it certainly wasn't because I had a pastor, husband or father breathing down my neck about it.

Also, I'd like to know just what is so sinful about meditation? Sure some religions incorporate it as a common practice but hasn't she ever just stopped to close her eyes to clear her head and get focused on something, or think things over? Even alone in the bathtub? If she or anyone has ever done that, that's essentially meditation at its core. Sounds like something anyone of any faith can do.

[Kitty]

Messianic "Jews" like to use Yeshua, as well as Baptists when they want to feel special and smart and whatnot. At least that's my experience.

[NurseNell]

Yes, the Alpha Bible study is used by numerous denominations, I think it is supposed to be seen as inter-denominational. I thought it was used more often by mainstream (e.g. Episcopalian, Presbyterian, etc) denominations, but since she is Quiverful, SAHM, homeschooler, modest dress, head covering, refering to God/Jesus as "Yehoshua" and having a headship, I am pretty sure she is not mainstream.

Our Catholic parish offered this course a couple of years ago, as did Episcopal, Lutheran, and Baptist churches locally.

[PraiseSeitan]

She neglected to mention some unpopular sort of political activism in her testimony? Maybe in the next revision she can have been a Maoist or an abortion clinic escort or something.

Maybe she stepped out to use the loo in that part of the seminar on winning people to Jesus with a godly and inspiring testimony.

[Maude]

Your guess is as good as mine concerning her affiliation. I've seen women of many different denominations adopt a 'modest with head-covering' dress code.

"After the drugs and drinking tapered off, and I settled into life as an adult I started attending a Unitarian Universalist Church, and attended for a number of years. Anyone who is familiar with a UU church can tell you that Christ is not the center of that ‘church’, but rather it is an inclusive, relativistic organization, wherein the inward feelings of each particular member as respected as ‘truth’ including humanists, Buddhists, pagans, those respecting Christ as a teacher, atheists etc. The particular church that I was attending had a heavy emphasis on social justice, equal rights for homosexuals, and a nature-worshipping tendency. Christians were also mocked there."

As a Unitarian Universalist, this has me rolling my eyes (though I've heard it all before). While individual churches can and do differ, I'd argue that Christ, or Jesus of Nazareth, is very much a central part of Unitarian Universalism, which owes its roots to Judeo-Christianity. In fact, my own church has a plaque on the wall in the sanctuary which basically says 'This church was founded in the spirit of Jesus Christ.' I believe the focus on social justice issues directly reflects the Jesus we see in the Gospels, but many Christians seem to have missed that part of the bible, for some reason. I've also never heard Christians openly mocked by anyone in my church (aside from my grandpa, but he bitches about everybody. lol) Ideas are certainly criticized and often outright rejected, but there are Christian UUs who exist in the church just fine. /end rant

[WanderingStar]

Your guess is as good as mine concerning her affiliation. I've seen women of many different denominations adopt a 'modest with head-covering' dress code.

"After the drugs and drinking tapered off, and I settled into life as an adult I started attending a Unitarian Universalist Church, and attended for a number of years. Anyone who is familiar with a UU church can tell you that Christ is not the center of that ‘church’, but rather it is an inclusive, relativistic organization, wherein the inward feelings of each particular member as respected as ‘truth’ including humanists, Buddhists, pagans, those respecting Christ as a teacher, atheists etc. The particular church that I was attending had a heavy emphasis on social justice, equal rights for homosexuals, and a nature-worshipping tendency. Christians were also mocked there."

As a Unitarian Universalist, this has me rolling my eyes (though I've heard it all before). While individual churches can and do differ, I'd argue that Christ, or Jesus of Nazareth, is very much a central part of Unitarian Universalism, which owes its roots to Judeo-Christianity. In fact, my own church has a plaque on the wall in the sanctuary which basically says 'This church was founded in the spirit of Jesus Christ.' I believe the focus on social justice issues directly reflects the Jesus we see in the Gospels, but many Christians seem to have missed that part of the bible, for some reason. I've also never heard Christians openly mocked by anyone in my church (aside from my grandpa, but he bitches about everybody. lol) Ideas are certainly criticized and often outright rejected, but there are Christian UUs who exist in the church just fine. /end rant

Thank you for your insight. I have never attended a Unitarian Universalist church but I've been curious about it because if I ever start going back to church at all, I feel like this would be where I'd best fit in, even more so than at a nondenominational Christian church. After all, if the UU church was founded in the spirit of Jesus Christ I don't see how Christians who attend the church would be ostracized. I was going to offer my perspective on that part since it bothered me but I figured I'd rather hear from someone who has had more experience with the church first.

[Maude]

Like I said, individual churches differ, but other UUs I've met online have reported similar experiences, so take from that what you will. A UU church is really guided by its congregation. Our small town is mostly Christian, so those members who didn't grow up in the church are coming from a largely Christian background, making a Christianity a bit more pronounced.

[Daenerys]

Our Catholic parish offered this course a couple of years ago, as did Episcopal, Lutheran, and Baptist churches locally.

The church my mum went to here in the UK tried so hard to push it she actually left and went somewhere else.

[dawbs]

at one point, she reccomends this church:

http://www.journeyfranklin.org/

(it's nondenominational, but that can mean so many things)

[NurseNell]

at one point, she reccomends this church:

http://www.journeyfranklin.org/

(it's nondenominational, but that can mean so many things)

The women in the music group are wearing pants, FWIW.

[slickcat79]

Your guess is as good as mine concerning her affiliation. I've seen women of many different denominations adopt a 'modest with head-covering' dress code.

"After the drugs and drinking tapered off, and I settled into life as an adult I started attending a Unitarian Universalist Church, and attended for a number of years. Anyone who is familiar with a UU church can tell you that Christ is not the center of that ‘church’, but rather it is an inclusive, relativistic organization, wherein the inward feelings of each particular member as respected as ‘truth’ including humanists, Buddhists, pagans, those respecting Christ as a teacher, atheists etc. The particular church that I was attending had a heavy emphasis on social justice, equal rights for homosexuals, and a nature-worshipping tendency. Christians were also mocked there."

As a Unitarian Universalist, this has me rolling my eyes (though I've heard it all before). While individual churches can and do differ, I'd argue that Christ, or Jesus of Nazareth, is very much a central part of Unitarian Universalism, which owes its roots to Judeo-Christianity. In fact, my own church has a plaque on the wall in the sanctuary which basically says 'This church was founded in the spirit of Jesus Christ.' I believe the focus on social justice issues directly reflects the Jesus we see in the Gospels, but many Christians seem to have missed that part of the bible, for some reason. I've also never heard Christians openly mocked by anyone in my church (aside from my grandpa, but he bitches about everybody. lol) Ideas are certainly criticized and often outright rejected, but there are Christian UUs who exist in the church just fine. /end rant

Honestly, her description of the UU church makes me even more likely to want to go to one, if I ever decided to start going back to church.

[Deleted03]

the part that always weirds me out is the "nature worshiping" like it's dirty or something. In terms of this life, don't think much would be changed without Jesus, but without nature... Well anyway, it just bothers me coz I can understand how you can construe Wicca, witches, spells, rituals and all in a negative light, but worshiping nature? how can you even give that a bad twist?

[tropaka]

Meditation is evil becaues it leads to HINDUISM! I read in the about section that they are currently without a home church so maybe they don't even know what brand of crazy they are either. Love how Jesus cured her bisexuality and I guess promiscuity (gosh, and I thought that bisexuals weren't any more or less monogamous than heterosexuals - seems to me her desire to sleep with others probably came from a crummy marriage).