Yet another man telling women how to dress

[bubbabearzle]

[DistantStar]

I must say that a dress that is so high you know how the wearer deals with her cooch hair is...a bit too high. But all that means is I'm not wearing it! She is free to wear what she wants, I am not the clothes police, I will just do a skeptical Spock eyebrow about her choice. The same one I do for the frumpers, except that I worry that they don't realize that they do have a choice.

[wtfrenchtoast]

Okay, enough with the bullshit. From now on I must insist that men all wear long sleeves and gloves, because I find their arms and hands seriously defrauding.

But on a relevant-to-the-op note, my response in that scenario would also be a resounding "fuck you, sir".

[snarkbillie]

"That skirt is too short."

"Good think you don't have to wear it."

:twisted:

[BoomerLynn]

Just wondering how many women would respond by starting with "Oh, but honey..." I can't think of a woman I know who wouldn't just say "No it isn't" and walk out.

Pretty much this. I don't know anyone that has ever used the phrase "Oh, but Honey..." It makes her sound like a child saying "But Daddy....."

[sriracha]

Okay, enough with the bullshit. From now on I must insist that men all wear long sleeves and gloves, because I find their arms and hands seriously defrauding.

I am with you on this one a million percent. What IS it about a man's forearms?? :drool:

But on a relevant-to-the-op note, my response in that scenario would also be a resounding "fuck you, sir".

If a man told me that something about my clothing was too revealing, I'd ask him to say it again, only this time don't lisp with your tongue; effeminate gay men use a very sibilant /s/.

Joking aside, you would think fundy men would go out of their way to have less in common with jealous gangbangers and jailbirds, who are notorious for controlling their women and what they wear one way or the other.

[SeaSaltCaramel]

Oh, but you have to be fair...

Now, if there are some men who believe that you are modest only if you show up like a Muslim woman, we will take those men aside and deal with them. We are not advocating that you go out and get a black gunny sack, cut two holes in it and stick it on your head, not at all. But we need quality control.

...they don't want us to go to extremes. :icon-wink:

Yeah, I agree with those who have said if my husband said that to me, I'd tell him to bite my butt as I continued to where I was off to.

Thankfully, my husband likes it when I dress attractively! He is apparently a man among men since he can keep it in his pants if a scantily clad woman walks by.

Added: I also agree with the manly toned-muscle forearm defrauding...that and broad shoulders!

[wtfrenchtoast]

I am with you on this one a million percent. What IS it about a man's forearms?? :drool:

If a man told me that something about my clothing was too revealing, I'd ask him to say it again, only this time don't lisp with your tongue; effeminate gay men use a very sibilant /s/.

Joking aside, you would think fundy men would go out of their way to have less in common with jealous gangbangers and jailbirds, who are notorious for controlling their women and what they wear one way or the other.

Right? I love forearms almost as much as I love noses. And after one particular encounter over the summer, I have a newfound appreciation for a pair of nice, strong hands. ;)

Also, good point about gangbangers. I used to watch the old Maury shows with controlling men, and I swore that would never be me. I'm not gonna change my mind just because you call yourself a Christian.

[StarrieEyedKat]

Right? I love forearms almost as much as I love noses.

Forearms are the first thing I notice on a man. It always sounds weird when you say it, but man, can they be sexy.

[clarinetpower]

Mmmm... I hear you on the arms and hands. So, long sleeves and gloves.

Oh, and I remember J.--he had these amazing thighs... so no tight pants. Maybe something long and flowing would be helpful.

And then there was C., and I just had a thing for his big nose... so cover the nose. Perhaps a scarf?

But then there was S., and boy, those green eyes just made me melt... so no eyes. Sunglasses?

And frankly, my husband is just plain hot all over... so...

Yeah, I'm think Male Burquas.

[Mommy22alyns]

christianfemininity.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/validating-the-gospel-in-modesty/

But of course he tries to be nice about it :roll: (unless of course you disagree....)

If my husband ever said something like that to me, he would no longer be my husband.

Um, yeah. This. :naughty:

[doggie]

Holy hoo-ha, Batman! I love love love a long dress/skirt with a really high slit (I think it's even sexier than a mini skirt), but that, in my opinion, is a little too high!

it can never be too high.

[Deleted07]

Burka for Men?

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/ ... r-men.html

[Burris]

Translation: "I, being a man, believe myself to be smarter than women to such a degree that I'm entitled to speak to my wife - that other half of my own flesh - as if she were a child. And I also have the right, if my wife refuses to obey my 'sweet reason,' to escalate to the point where I can threaten to keep her at home on pain of facing divorce."

What the wife should say: "You shouldn't have married me if you believed I were incompetent to make my own decisions. People like you are usually described as predators. I'm walking out, in this skirt. If you don't like that, then follow through on your threat to divorce me - and God help the next not-man who falls for you."

[Deleted07]

Ah Modesty...

[Cran]

You are calling that MODEST?!

The skirt of two girls have a SLIT! And slits are only worn by sluts. Or so I've heard.

[debrand]

You are calling that MODEST?!

The skirt of two girls have a SLIT! And slits are only worn by sluts. Or so I've heard.

She should either take, little bitty steps or wear a looser skirt that doesn't require a slit.

Seriously, why did these men marry a woman who they can't trust enough to choose her own clothing.

[notsocommon]

christianfemininity.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/validating-the-gospel-in-modesty/

But of course he tries to be nice about it :roll: (unless of course you disagree....)

If my husband ever said something like that to me, he would no longer be my husband.

Exactly! Only mine would be missing a few teeth before I kicked his ass out.

Unless it is something like the slit tore and is showing off my unmentionables, he has no say!

[Defrauding Errday]

This guy is something else. In additions to being a patronizing prick to his wife, his list of impure clothing types is highly restrictive (yet burqas is too much). Basically women shouldn't wear anything that shows or even hints that they have a female figure.

[2xx1xy1JD]

Yeah, my response to "as long as I'm your husband..." would be "I guess you won't be my husband for much longer".

I actually read the entire cringe-worthy post, and feel the need to take a shower with the grossness of it all.

One man said to one of the elders, “I saw a woman bend over. I could see the top of her panties and I wondered what it would be like to put my hand down her back.†This was a godly young man, passionate to be holy, who was caused to stumble in this church.

And I am going to do something right now. I am going to ask the men seated here this morning and the boys: If you find any one or more of these things that I have called magnets for your eyes an occasion of struggling with purity of your mind, I want you to raise your hand.

Now, sisters, look around. Get a good look at how many men there are. Many dear brothers are struggling with these issues.

Let's count some of the ways that this is wrong, even by Biblical standards, shall we?

1. You are giving a sermon on not causing lustful thoughts. How is it appropriate to give your audience the mental picture of a guy putting his hand down a woman's ass?

2. In my religion, at least, there is a strong rule against embarrassing others. If nothing else, it would fit under the general "do unto others" clause. Asking men to identify themselves if they've been thinking lustful thoughts about the women in church is majorly embarrassing to them, and to the women around them.

3. I'd be concerned about a potential abuse of pastoral authority here, if this guy deliberately makes congregants admit sinful thoughts in public. It's a common technique used by cults and totalitarian regimes.

4. The rule against causing others to stumble doesn't apply to just modesty and lust. It applies to everything. For example, if a woman who was previously comfortable in her congregation finds herself squirming with embarrassment after a sermon like that, she may decide to stop going. If she has an issue that could benefit from pastoral counselling, she may decide not to use it. In extreme cases, she may be so turned off that she turns her back on her religion altogether.

If a religious leader feels the need to emphasize standards for religious/modest dress, just do the following:

1. In a non-judgmental way, mention that "for clarity for congregants and guests", suggested guidelines for dress and decorum are now posted by the entry way and on the website.

2. Mention in a general way that your religion has something to say about how you dress and present yourself to the world.

3. Invite congregants to come to upcoming programs - one for men and one for women - to learn more and enjoy a fun "What Not to Wear"-style workshop. Have only men at the men's workshop, only women at the women's workshop. Bring in local retailers and style gurus, model stuff, give suggestions and have fun.

One last point:

There's no such thing really as being "decidedly" modest to a standard that is recognized by "everyone". I just got back from visiting Israel. It's not unusual to see an ultra-Orthodox woman walking one way with hair covering, skirt 4 inches below the knee and tights, and a Muslim woman walking the other way with hijab, jeans and boots. Neither one would meet the modesty standards of the other's religion, and the Duggar girls certainly wouldn't meet either standard.

[EmmieJ]

Burka for Men?

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/ ... r-men.html

Who's under there? Kermit the Frog? rofl!

I would never end up with a man who thought he could tell me what to wear. I am very content to have a sweet-natured guy who thinks I am beautiful just as I am, in pretty much anything I wear. Sweats and a t-shirt - sexy. Yoga pants that hug my oversize butt - sexy. Just about any dress - sexy. At most, he might say something like "that would look nice on you" if we're out shopping and he sees a lowcut blouse or top. I'd be dumbfounded if he ever tried to make me dress more "modestly." LOL

[AnnoDomini]

If you find any one or more of these things that I have called magnets for your eyes an occasion of struggling with purity of your mind, I want you to raise your hand.

And what is with that phraseology and sentence construction?

[samithemage]

Honestly, if my BF said my skirt slit was too short, I'd probably take notice and at least check it. Only because his philosophy is that a skirt is never too short, nor a shirt too low cut. I'm usually the one to police myself. I'll put something on and say...oh that not something I want to wear in public. He always asks me why not :) If he were to actually say that a skirt was too short, I'd probably assume everything was hanging out. (I also probably would never have put it on in the first place, as I'm not comfortable with that)

ETA: Of course my BF isn't some kind of controlling jerk, and would let me walk out of the house in any length of skirt I liked without questioning me.

[ems]

Reading the article...this guy sounds sooo pervy...like he's really getting a kick out of describing just how these "eye magnets" defraud men.

[CanadianHippie]

Reading the article...this guy sounds sooo pervy...like he's really getting a kick out of describing just how these "eye magnets" defraud men.

It's the closest thing to porn he's got.