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[Lainey]

Have we discussed this one before? She appears to be aware of us: http://duggarsonmymind.blogspot.com/201 ... -what.html

 

I found this while FJ was down this morning. I needed my fix. I haven't read the newer posts, so I don't know if she's changed her stance at all since the above post was written.

[Angri-la]

Gosh, I can't understand why people think that the Duggars are something to be freed from! They are such an awesome, loving, Christianer than thou family, and you harpies are so mean to insinuate anything but!11 /sarcasm

Nope, she hasn't changed her mind. The most recent post is about how she discovered the Duggars back during the "14 Kids and Still Breedin' Like Bunnies" days, and saw so much of herself in them. Modesty, long hair, dresses, no BC, blahblahblah headship. And NO PROFANITY, bitches! PS: She is an Orthodox Jew~

[Witsec5]

I don't know what she means by a March 2012 post because it's not 2012 yet. That said, her 2011 posts are quite negative. I cut and paste here so you don't have to look:

Duggars and Dichotomies: One of These Things Just Doesn't Belong Here

This one is for you "mythoughtis" :)

I've been thinking a lot about some things the Duggars say, yet their actions don't quite match up with those said beliefs. We all have those moments, no one's perfectly able to live out their religion in complete and total perfection, if we were, well, I think life on earth wouldn't quite be what it is today. However, since the Duggars have chosen to put their faith as a main part of their TV show, it's fair game to point out things that don't mesh.

1) The Meeting of Dolly Parton - I have no problem that they met Dolly Parton. My problem is how they met Dolly Parton. Jim Bob has gone to great pains to urge us to remove all "worldly" music and TV from our homes that can influence our children. Dolly Parton has been a professional singer for decades. She was a chart topper when both Jim Bob and Michelle were growing up and still watching TV and listening to the radio. In their interviews they claimed not to have known who she was. That right there bothered me. Fine, so they didn't know who she was (ok they are from the south and don't know who she is??) and they are taking their family to go meet her? They indicate that they are somewhat aware that she's a TV/singer personality of some type. Here is the problem....shouldn't they, as concerned parents done some research before exposing their young children to a TV personality? And after such research, is she really a personality that they would have approved of? Yes Dolly has done some gospel singing, but does her entire body of work speak of what the Duggar family stands for?

2) The Girls' Beds - I've mentioned this before in another thread, but this particular point got lost within the main point of the other thread, so I'm going to be more specific here. When they built the house they live in, they had five girls. As they finished the house they had a sixth girl. As they decorated the girl's room, they decorated with five designer matching beds. When the room is panned across during episodes of the show, there doesn't seem to be any room left for adding more beds, at least not more beds that match. The only reason I say this is because these beds all have each girl's name lovingly written across it. Why does this seem like such an issue? Every time someone asks (and they ask and ask and ask) why do you name your kids with "J" names? The answer is 'because we never knew how many we'd have and we didn't want anyone to be left out.' Well granted they didn't know they'd be having three more girls (after the sixth) making a total of nine, but for a family who repeatedly tells the world that they don't like their kids to feel left out, these younger girls are going to be left out of their own room. Their older siblings have matching beds and they don't seem to. Obviously there is going to need to be some rearranging of furniture, some possible use of bunk beds (perhaps the single versions of these actually convert to bunk beds, who knows?) but clearly, not every Duggar daughter will be treated equally.

3) The Gun Picture - This has nothing to do with the actual gun, the owning of guns, the shooting of guns or the possession of guns. I don't care one way or another as I previously wrote about. The point I'm making here is this: What it does have to do is the loving and friendly personas they try to uphold? Again, it's not the guns themselves, it's the pose John-David is making. There is nothing "Duggar-like" about that pose. If he'd just been casually standing there next to a couple of guns, no big deal, but the pose is so...well...non-Duggar, I just don't get it.

So those are the few that come to mind as I write this. As I've been examining those in myself, I have to say, I think it may have to do with who we are as we grow and try to change--try to become "better" people, yet is it really possible to change our innate being. In all truth Jim Bob is a salesman, therefore the Dolly thing was all about salesmanship. Do I have answers for all three? No I do not.

As for the dichotomy that Mythoughtis pointed out in me, well I did try to answer it. Yes I do dress modestly and cover my head. However, I must correct you, I do not cover my head for modesty, I cover my head as a reminder of my faith--that there is someone above me--much in the way that Jewish men wear kippot (yarmulkes.) I am not Chassidic. Chassidic women do cover their hair for modest reasons. And as I admitted, lately I have been more lax on the head coverings, I've been using different coverings, not covering completely--using bandannas so the ponytail sticks out, using hipster beanies etc. Why? I don't have a concrete answer for you, but perhaps I cannot change who I am, while I am living the best orthodox life I can, perhaps deep down I'm reform. While I know that's not exactly true, because I am more conservative than that, I do question myself--someday perhaps I will find an answer--or maybe it's because i can't change who I am deep down, lazy.

You also mentioned my offhand comment about an actor young enough to be my son. Well, he's of legal age. Before my husband I was dating men in their early 20s. Why am I telling you this? To justify my comment? No, not at all. To brag? Probably a little. Actually it's because deep down you can't change who you are...I am who I am and I tend to live my life as an open book.

So Mythoughtis, I hope this finds you well. I would welcome getting to know you better as I have a feeling you have the wrong idea of just who I am. Please feel free to email me ...any of you

Posted by Marybeth at 2:48 PM 29 comments

Saturday, January 15, 2011

Duggars and Guns: Starring John-David as Rambo

So there's a picture posted of John-David holding a few guns and a pistol in his pocket. Ok don't correct me as to the type of guns he's holding, because I have no clue as to what they were or what the differences are. I'm no expert. I don't even know if the actually shot bullets. I did see the picture and it didn't look fake. There was a young man standing with him and he has been identified as an Indonesian exchange student--he was also holding a gun.

Now let's get my personal views out of the way first. I am not anti-gun. I don't own any guns and never have, but I don't have a problem with legal and responsible gun ownership. I also have no problem with hunting. In fact, with the Duggars living in rural Arkansas, it's always surprised me that hunting wasn't more a part of their frugal lifestyle in filling their freezers with meat for their growing family. They even joked about a deer stand when building their house in one of the 1 hour specials before they had their own permanent show. So there you go, it doesn't bother me if the Duggars have guns.

Here is what surprised me about the picture itself: the pose. I was a little surprised to see John-David with the Rambo-style pose. After all, he really shouldn't know who Rambo is, right? And it wasn't a very peaceful or loving pose either. Even for a hunter, it didn't seem right to me. It just seemed odd. That's the best way I can explain it and I'm still not sure if it's coming out right. If he'd been casually posing with a dozen guns it wouldn't have been stranger than that pose.

And there it is. The only thing I find strange about the entire picture or situation is the pose.

Posted by Marybeth at 5:56 PM 6 comments

Tuesday, January 11, 2011

Duggar Drought: I Blame Edward

I received and anonymous post today, telling me it was a shame that I haven't been updating lately. I do apologize. There are a few reasons. Some of them are quite valid and some not so much. But since I've always been nothing but rather violently honest with you, I'll share them.

First of all, as I've said before, we don't have TV service of any kind so since TLC didn't post the shows, I didn't get a chance to watch this past season, except for the first couple that they did post and one or two I was lucky enough to see while visiting my parents. So because I didn't see an entire season, I was kind of without new material to work with. If you go down the blog history you'll see that even with new material we've repeated subjects a few times regardless.

Now I know that this blog isn't reliant on the show itself, but I admit it helps with inspiration on subject matter. It also helps keep them in the forefront of my mind. The past few blog topics came straight from the groups I'm involved with on Facebook where topics get bantered about so I get inspired to write about them further. But since the season has ended, we haven't been talking so much Duggar as other stuff that doesn't seem so relevant to this blog.

Secondly, my life has gotten in the way a bit. We've been doing a great bit of travel lately and we're going to be doing a little bit more. As I posted, we spent a month living abroad in Israel and I wasn't able to post while we were there. And then we were traveling back and forth between home and my parent's house (about 630 miles) for Thanksgiving and Christmas. And while doing both those trips we added additional trips to Seattle to visit my best friend from Jr. High and her family (both times) so that extended each of those trips. It just seems like I haven't been home since September. And now we're leaving again in a few weeks to visit my parents AGAIN, because we're leaving for London, England to celebrate our Fifth wedding anniversary (and both our birthdays.) So, as you can see, I seem to be flitting about the globe and the Duggars don't seem to be my main focus.

Third of all, we're contemplating a move, which is what all this travel is about. We want desperately out of the state of California and therefore we are doing all of this travel in hopes of finding somewhere we might like better. Jobs, business, family, etc. just seem to be getting in the way. I'm also in the first stage editing process of my second novel. (I never published the first one, but I don't want to negate it just because it did get completed.) This one, however does have merit and I do plan to see it through to the end, so that's taken most of my writing focus when I get any.

And finally, probably the most embarrassing, I accidentally read the Twilight books and found myself utterly enchanted with Edward and blame him for my complete lack of focus since last May.

So, I beg you, give me some topics to write about and I'll write about them, I need some Duggar inspiration. And I do apologize for the drought.

Posted by Marybeth at 11:37 AM 7 comments

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[pixydust]

The girls beds do bother me. Not that the oldest 5 have matching, names painted on them, beds; but the last time I saw the girls room even Hannie was sleeping in a pack and play! She was probably 4 then! I think, IIRC, they had all 3 little girls in pack-n-plays in the girls rooms. There is no way that my 4 year old could fit in a pack-n-play, I'd have to fold him in half! I hope that the Duggars have at least gotten around to buying the 3 little girls toddler beds (I know that I could fit into one until I was 8, but I'm short), if not regular sized beds (a bunk bed with a trundle could easily sleep Hannie, Jenny, and Jordyn), but I worry that they are still squashing the little ones in whatever they can until one of the older girls gets married.

I also remember one of the boys sleeping on a fold out kids chair at one point!

[fakepigtails73]

Oh, that "Rambo-like" gun pose that JD affects is very "Duggar-like". Not the way that TLC wants us to see them, but the way that these types of "Gotthard" families REALLY are: believing that their way of "living the faith" is the ONLY way to be saved and uber-paranoid about the secular world around them (in fact, I imagine that there are tons of ammo and high-power guns in that compound that would make a member of a militia green with envy.)

I hate the fact that all the girls sleep in one room (same with the boys). Imagine Jinger or Joy after a rough day catering to the brood having to listen during the night to Jennifer fussing and crying (which I'm sure she does in spade), Johannah's incessant talking or any other's snoring, farting, having nightmares-booboos-etc.? I know that I'd go insane! Why couldn't they build a room big enough for the 4 eldest girls+ Joy Anna, with another room close to the parents's room for the younger ones? Ditto for the boys.

[pixydust]

I hate the fact that all the girls sleep in one room (same with the boys). Imagine Jinger or Joy after a rough day catering to the brood having to listen during the night to Jennifer fussing and crying (which I'm sure she does in spade), Johannah's incessant talking or any other's snoring, farting, having nightmares-booboos-etc.? I know that I'd go insane! Why couldn't they build a room big enough for the 4 eldest girls+ Joy Anna, with another room close to the parents's room for the younger ones? Ditto for the boys.

If I could have deisgned the Duggar house, it would have had 7 bedrooms: One for Jim Bob and J'chelle; one for Josh, JD, and Joseph; one for Jana and Jill; one for Jessa and Jinger; one for Siah, Jed and Jer; one for Joy and Hannie; and one for Jason, James, Justin, and Jackson. As time went on (Josh married, the little girls born), Siah would move in with JD and Joe; boy number 7 (I mix up the howlers) would move in with the twins; Joy in with Jessa and Jinger; and Jenny and Jordyn in with Hannie. The kids rooms would also show their personalities, not the "Anne of Green Gables" look, like the girls have.

[dawn]

I'd noticed that about the girls' bedroom from the start. And it's also true for the boys' room, and the dining room furniture- just room enough for the children they already had.

At first I thought how stupid - You're still in your thirties, you say you want as many more children as possible, you have a brand new, custom house, and you don't think ahead to buy an extra chair or two for future blessings?

What I really think happened is that they were done after Hannie, and that they only had Jenny (& then the other two) so they could get back on TV, once they realized how much more expensive their brand new home was to run & how much easier life could be with some extra cash.

Actually, I think that they were done after Justin and that Jackson was sort of an "oopsie". Then, when they were a little more comfortable, with the money from the first special, they decided to try once more for another girl.

[Jessica]

I don't know what she means by a March 2012 post because it's not 2012 yet.

I think that's to keep that post at the top of the page so it doesn't get lost when newer posts are made.

[Feberin]

I think the average fan loves them because they aren't looking deep enough and are able to ignore the glaring problems such as the poor education, J'slaves raising the little ones, flat our lies on the show and other things that crop up once you take a better look at them. I would think having the blog caused the writer to look deeper and notice some problems. The girls' bedroom bugs me too. They knew there was a sixth girl! Did they think she would sleep in a crib forever? I think part of the problem is that they got a designer to get the furniture for the house who probably though 16 kids there is NO way they're having anymore.

[lilwriter85]

I think the average fan loves them because they aren't looking deep enough and are able to ignore the glaring problems such as the poor education, J'slaves raising the little ones, flat our lies on the show and other things that crop up once you take a better look at them. I would think having the blog caused the writer to look deeper and notice some problems. The girls' bedroom bugs me too. They knew there was a sixth girl! Did they think she would sleep in a crib forever? I think part of the problem is that they got a designer to get the furniture for the house who probably though 16 kids there is NO way they're having anymore.

I have noticed that with some Duggar fans. I know one fan who really doesn't watch the show looking for anything deep about the family. She basically watches the show to see the Duggars being happy and traveling around. Some fans don't realize that the J'Slaves do too much for the little ones and they ignore that the J'Slaves are homeschooling the younger ones too. I have seen some fans defend the Duggars' buddy system by comparing it to large families in the past.

Some large families in the past did use buddy systems or had the older children caring for the younger ones. That was common in farming/ranching families. My mom is the youngest in a family of 8 kids. My parents had a ranch and my both grandmother and grandfather did the ranching. My mom's two oldest sisters who were in charge of caring for the younger children when my grandma was out in the fields which wasn't always daily. My grandparents despite having their daughters caring for the younger children, they still allowed their daughters to have their own lives. My mom's two oldest left home when they were 18 and 19 to move to a city. My mom's other older siblings took over certain duties and again they left home at 18-20. My mom has watched 19 Kids and Counting and the preseries documentaries a few times and she doesn't like the Duggars at all. She said seeing the J'Slaves caring for the little ones does remind her in some ways of how she grew up, but she thinks the Duggars take advantage of the girls too much. My mom was a kid in the 50's and 60's and she said that her grandparents did allow the older siblings time for themselves to go out with friends.

I think some fans really don't look deeply at the J'Slaves and the younger kids. I have some people end up disliking the Duggars when they realize that the girls are doing too much or that Mullet doesn't pay attention to the younger kids at times. Some fans really gloss over the fact that the J'Slaves do some of the homeschooling and they have also believed some of the BS of the Duggars. I have seen fans praise Josh for the car lots and we all know that Boob owns those.

ETA: I have read this blog a few times and I like that this blogger isn't totally in love with the Duggars. I liked her post on courtship and how she feels it might have worked for her as teen or in her 20's. She also said that she feels that parents shouldn't be in total control over dating .

[roddma]

Her last post was called "Not really Duggaring" posted way back in August.

Truth be told I think I've said all I can say about them. As they continue on I think they are losing some of their credibility for me and their genuineness. Their young children aren't learning the lessons in thrift their older children learned because they don't have to be as thrifty as they once were. And that's great--they are making a good living, but their kids are losing out on those budgetary lessons that are necessary because when those younger kids grow up and move out they'll need them--they won't be rich like mommy and daddy, unless of course there are savings accounts being set up for them. But I still think Jim Bob and Michelle should be passing down those lessons they keep teaching us.

So maybe she had a change of heart. It gets to the point the, well-behaved kids, no welfare no debt blahblah-become invalid arguments once you start digging deeper. Who cares really? I am sure most of us in debt wouldn't be if we lived well below their means cramped 15 people in 900 sq ft houses.

[lilwriter85]

Her last post was called "Not really Duggaring" posted way back in August.

So maybe she had a change of heart. It gets to the point the, well-behaved kids, no welfare no debt blahblah-become invalid arguments once you start digging deeper. Who cares really? I am sure most of us in debt wouldn't be if we lived well below their means cramped 15 people in 900 sq ft houses.

This. I think more people are digger deeper when it comes to Duggars. Some people no longer care that the Dugars are debt free or aren't on government assistance.