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Looking at the fake $10 bill, I notice that they tried to copy part of a real bill. Since those giving them out are leaving them in place of real money as a payment for a service performed, isn't this some sort of counterfeiting?

When I worked fast food, I had a guy attempt to pay with a trimmed down photocopy of a $5 or $10 bill. He walked out when I refused to take the bill but I did report it to our manager, who informed our security guard who went out after him. Never did learn if he caught the guy as it was right at the end of my shift and I left shortly.

Surprised people try that as it's so darn obvious.

Reading about the Duggars leaving fake bills, servers at their local restaurants must positively dread their showing up and probably praying "please don't seat them in my section".

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Looking at the fake $10 bill, I notice that they tried to copy part of a real bill. Since those giving them out are leaving them in place of real money as a payment for a service performed, isn't this some sort of counterfeiting?

Since the bill is obviously smaller and has different writing on the back, it's not counterfeiting, just obnoxious asshole behavior.

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Reading about the Duggars leaving fake bills, servers at their local restaurants must positively dread their showing up and probably praying "please don't seat them in my section".

We had a large prayer group that used to come in every Wednesday morning. They were polite enough and, overall, easy, but they didn't tip well. We usually flipped a coin for who had to take them, only because we could turn a few tables in the time they sat there, and lost a few bucks. They did tip, just 10%.

Strangest thing ever: One guy was new and visiting and I was serving them. He had a "Minnesota" shirt on. I, at the time, was not living in Minnesota, so I asked him if he was from MN. He said yes. I asked him where in MN, and he said I would never have heard of it. I told him to try me, and he blurts out my hometown of 700 people. OK, so that was hilarious. THEN, he said, "How is your sister S*****? She was always so pretty!" I handled it smoothly, but a table of businessmen I was also waiting on overheard the conversation and left me a very nice tip with the note "For the pretty S***'s Sister!" Made my day. :)

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Another Australian here who really doesn't understand tipping. I know it is expected and I have done so when visiting the US - I just don't understand it. Why not pay a decent wage and then tip if the service is exceptional?

I am stunned to read that staff get $2.13. Doesn't this mean that if you have customers that don't tip or a night with no customers at all, you are basically working for free? Wow. Give me socialism everyday. The award wage here is $17.05 (permanent) or $21.33 (casual). My sons award is lower because he is 16 but his boss chooses to pay all staff the same and all above award so he gets $20/hour + meal breaks, holidays, etc. and guaranteed hours.

Also, why wouldn't families like the Duggars leave a tip AND a tract? Surely if you want people to listen to you the first thing to do is pay them properly. I guess that is logic again, which I know is beyond them.

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Because most die-hard Christians are Republicans. Republicans are greedy assholes who don't like to share.

I used to work with a guy who "didn't believe in tipping". We would never go out to eat with him, except one time when it was a buffet.

So...he ate ALL.OF.THE.SHRIMP in the buffet. All of it.

So embarrassing.

So we went back to never going out to eat with him.

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Also, why wouldn't families like the Duggars leave a tip AND a tract? Surely if you want people to listen to you the first thing to do is pay them properly. I guess that is logic again, which I know is beyond them.

A couple of things.

If their whole family is out, most restaurants I've been to across the country would automatically at an 18% tip (for tables larger than 6 people) and when I'm in groups larger than that, people often toss in more on top of that...

Secondly, people who would eat and leave only a tract, when they clearly have the money to afford a tip are "Cheap Bastards" regardless of their religious or political beliefs.

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Also, why wouldn't families like the Duggars leave a tip AND a tract? Surely if you want people to listen to you the first thing to do is pay them properly. I guess that is logic again, which I know is beyond them.

A couple of things.

If their whole family is out, most restaurants I've been to across the country would automatically at an 18% tip (for tables larger than 6 people) and when I'm in groups larger than that, people often toss in more on top of that...

Secondly, people who would eat and leave only a tract, when they clearly have the money to afford a tip are "Cheap Bastards" regardless of their religious or political beliefs.

If I saw the Duggars coming, damn straight I would toss that 18% gratuity on there.

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It pisses me off when people say that servers should only get paid with their tips because if they are doing their job then they shouldn't have a problem making enough in tips. These people most likely haven't worked in the service industry because a server can do everything right and work their ass off for a table, and still not get a tip or get a decent tip. There is a lot of psychology that factors into the amount that people are willing to tip. Many of these factors are things that the server cannot influence or change despite how good they are their job.

After waiting tables almost my entire life. I always leave 15-20% regardless of the service. 20% for exceptional service and 15% for anything else.

I guess these Christians that leave these tracts feel that it is more important to try to save someone's soul than leaving a tip that you know actually helps the person in the here and now. I am already headed to hell, but I still need to pay my rent.

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What is SO confusing about *these people* is they say people should have to work for their food, rent, clothes, etc. So here is someone working, yet they don't believe they should be paid.

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This makes me really mad. In Australia, tipping is reserved for exemplary service. I think you should be paid a good base wage, and anything you receive from customers is a bonus. The expectation to tip just leaves the door open to these religious nuts who think that it's ok to deprive someone of their wages with a stupid tract. I used to waitress when I was at uni (12 years ago), and was receiving $15 an hour. Even as a 17 year old supermarket checkout chick, I earned $7.50. $2.50 an hour is ludicrous - how can anyone support themselves on that?

To me, a minimum wage should be calculated against the cost of living to ensure that people can achieve a minimum standard of living. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the USA, the minimum wage is tiny, so it's up to the customers to make up the shortfall, but there is no legal requirement for them to tip a certain amount? That just seems to be right for abuse...

As an aside, tipping scares the crap out of me when I travel to the US. There's so many rules... I'd rather just pay more for the food initially and have the server paid a decent wage.

Late to the party (as usual!), but I agree with you Lizzie (I live in the US). My husband & I ALWAYS tip 20%, but will leave more if the server is excellent - and my requirements for "excellent" are pretty low - don't ask me how my food is the second it comes out, and keep the Coca~Cola flowing! :) It is absolutely disgusting how little servers / waitstaff are paid, and how their employers will do all they can to screw them out of earnings. We've actually boycotted a number of restaurants where they refuse to offer healthcare, or cut hours to part time to avoid having to offer healthcare.

As far as I know - there is no requirement to tipping except in certain circumstances in certain restaurants. Some places add gratuity to the checks if you have a certain number of people in your party. When I went away for a long weekend with my husband's family we ran into that circumstance (6+ people = automatic 18% gratuity added to your bill) and my husband's father wasn't going to tip above that (since gratuity was "required"). The rest of us raised a rukus (the server was Awesome - see above "requirements") and we all felt that if FIL wasn't going to add more to the tip then we'd all leave cash on the table.

I have a question for servers / waitresses / waiters here (never sure of the correct term) - if an employer cut your hours to avoid offering healthcare is it better to boycott the restaurant, or to still eat there but tip the server MORE than 20% to make up the difference? This is something my husband & I struggle with, and we want to be sure we do the right thing.

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Back when I worked at Bill Knapp's (it was a not-all-night Dennys, known for birthday cakes and our customers were young families and old people) it happened a lot. Of course, so did using the coupon to get the meal amount down to $3 and so tipping $0.30. :roll:

I had an obnoxious fundie pastor at that time who gets some brownie points for pointing out to people that *IF* they felt the need to leave a fake $20 tract, they sure as hell better leave a *REAL* $20 on the table too.

Nothing makes me angrier than people that use coupons to save on their meal and then tip on the discounted price! I've always been taught, and always believed that you tip on the ORIGINAL amount! Why do people have to be such assholes?

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Some of it is ignorance and upbringing. If someone is brought up by people by skimp, that person won't know until someone else clues them in. Some other people are simply cheapskates.

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Some of it is ignorance and upbringing. If someone is brought up by people by skimp, that person won't know until someone else clues them in. Some other people are simply cheapskates.

In the mid-80s, Hubs was out with a group of people from his work. One of the women said "I"ll get the tip (for the table)" and pulled out a dollar. Hubs noticed and said-- "want me to pitch in on the tip?" She said, no, why? He mentioned the 15-20 percent rule of thumb and she was horrified--not because it was too much (she could afford it, even for the table) but because she had spent years tipping a dollar, no matter what her tab had been, because her father had taught her to tip a dollar. Now, it is possible her dad never went anyplace that cost more than 5 bucks (small town ks in the late 70s???) OR he was cheap or he didn't know. But she had no idea she'd been stiffing people for years. Hubs mentioned what waitstaff was paid and she was mortified. I think she overtipped for a while to compensate! So, if people haven't been taught or looked it up, they may really not know.

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What's even worse about the Duggars not tipping well is that they have often been shown eating at places where "kits eat free," so you can imagine that the total for their entire family is going to be much, much less than a typical restaurant tab for 10 adults and 10 kids.

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Most of the "kids eat free" restaurants DO limit the kids to one child per adult. You might get away with two kids and one adult, but that's as much as you are going to get them to bend it, rightfully so. Businesses deserve to get paid.

I can't stand that "Extreme Cheapskates" show on TLC because, for the most part, they run around trying to screw over other people to get what they want. They don't tip. They buy five plates for ten people at a buffet, then expect people to share plates. (Which is stealing) If you can't afford, or are unwilling to pay to go out to eat, then don't go out to eat. If you can't afford to tip, don't go out to eat. It's not complicated.

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Bill Maher talks about this in his New Rules segment.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/09/m ... f-and-die/

Damn, Bill was totally ON in that segment.

Count me unsurprised if the Duggars are lousy customers and leave shitty tips (if they leave tips at all).

Because we are on the topic of restaurants and their wait staffs, I just have to mention the book I'm reading "Behind the Kitchen Door" by Saru Jayaraman. I'm reading it for my church reading group and I'll probably post a review to my new blog. This book is so eye-opening; I'm learning so much about the restaurant industry and its hard-working people who deal with challenges I can't even imagine. I will never dine in a restaurant with the same mentality.

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