Duggar ?: looking for people with insight and knowledge

[artist]

I know you have a great deal of knowledge and insight into the Duggar family. Can you take a minute to share some of the with people who are not as well informed? People mistakenly glorify this family when the whole picture really needs to be shown and understood. Ignorance has the potential to do more harm than good.

 

http://www.faithandfamilyliveDOTCOM/blo ... _baby/P50/

[artist]

This is part of one of the comments and there are 2 pages of them. Did I break up the link right?

"Michelle’s older kids are free to leave if they want. No one is forcing them to stay there and raise their siblings. One daughter is thinking of going to college for nursing, and they would be free to leave to marry or pursue their education. The older Duggar boys also contribute to the household. They don’t care for the young babies, but they have their “jurisdictions†and contribute, in addition to holding down jobs outside the home because they opted not to go to college. Michelle doesn’t just hand over her babies when they turn one. She is instrumental in raising all her kids, and the results speak for themselves. Yes, her older kids help with childcare. But that doesn’t mean that she just hands them over and ignores them once they’re out of infancy. If every single one of her kids over age 14 left the house today, she would be able to manage the kids she has left. She has four children under 5 (including the baby on the way), and then a few more between the ages of 6 and 12. It would be hard, but she could do it. "

[deelaem]

I know you have a great deal of knowledge and insight into the Duggar family. Can you take a minute to share some of the with people who are not as well informed? People mistakenly glorify this family when the whole picture really needs to be shown and understood. Ignorance has the potential to do more harm than good.

http://www.faithandfamilyliveDOTCOM/blo ... _baby/P50/

Um, that's pretty much what we do here. Anyone is free to come here and read any of our many threads regarding the Duggars.

[Miss M]

It would be pointless to post on a blog that supports this kind of extreme breeding, we are not going to change many if any minds there. And if they wish to learn more about the Duggars they can google them.

[artist]

But no one is going to come here if they think everything is wonderful with the Duggar's. People come here because a seed gets planted elsewhere that makes them start to think a bit differently. I just think it is helpful to hear different perspectives in places where different perspectives are not heard. Maybe it will help some people think twice about it.

And that blog does not promote extreme breeding.

[Extricated]

If it's so important to you, why won't you do it yourself?

[artist]

I did. I just need alittle help that's all.

[annalena]

They do not really buy that shit, do they.

The girls are "free to go"?

All the kids coincidently "opted" not to go to college?

She would be manage to able all the kids under 14?

WHO ARE THEY KIDDING?!

[Aurora]

Hi artist, perhaps try these links:

nolongerquivering.com

undermuchgrace.blogspot.com

On FJ, there are a lot of threads on the Duggars, especially in the last couple of days, so right now on the first 2-3 pages there are probably several threads with some of the type of arguments you're looking for.

[artist]

annalena, my thoughts exactly. It really surprises me that any balanced faith based web site would glorify them the way they do in this thread. I guess whether they (faith and family) are balanced or not is another debate. As a Catholic I recognize that fundamentalism exists in the Catholic Church as well. I'm surprised at times that you guys see very little of the Catholic fundamentalism. Most of the women you talk about are not Catholic.

[Aurora]

The comments on this people article may be also useful to you.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0, ... 35,00.html

[IReallyAmHopewell]

They do not really buy that shit, do they.

The girls are "free to go"?

All the kids coincidently "opted" not to go to college?

She would be manage to able all the kids under 14?

WHO ARE THEY KIDDING?!

Exactly!! People see only what they want to.

Where would Josiah and Joy-Anna (over 14, under 18) GO?? And, if it's not obvious by the body language and cold facial expressions of everyone except Josh, no one is "Happy" or "thrilled" except Jim-Bob and Michelle who get to keep the tv money rolling in a little longer. I say that knowing that they DO sincerely believe what they say--they just don't want to see what it's doing/done to their other 19 children.....

[annalena]

where would any of the kids go, without resources and without an education?

their only shot is susanna, really. amy they can't rely on because she's too much of a fame whore.

susanna- if they ever come to you- PLEASE help them. they don't have any other way.

OR of course they could come on here! do you think they know FJ exists??

[Guest Anonymous]

I can seriously think of a dozen (or more things) my parents did that didn't make me happy as a kid. But that doesn't mean I should have had a say in it. Parents are parents and it really isn't their job to base their decisions on whether or not everyone in the family will be happy about it. I made many decisions that my kid wasn't happy about, but I certainly wouldn't have made a different choice based purely on his happiness. Heck, some kids wouldn't be happy unless they were served ice cream and pizza for every meal, every weekend was filled with a trip to Disney World, every school day they could stay home and sleep and every evening they could watch TV until 3:00am.

I would gladly put my child's health and safety above many things, but whether or not my child was happy with an adult, parental decision wouldn't be my biggest concern.

[lilwriter85]

They do not really buy that shit, do they.

The girls are "free to go"?

All the kids coincidently "opted" not to go to college?

She would be manage to able all the kids under 14?

WHO ARE THEY KIDDING?!

I really don't believe that the girls are free to go. If one of them left then I would believe that JB and Michelle are ok with them leaving. There is too much evidence to prove that the girls aren't free to go. The Duggars' involvement with College Plus shows that.

[Feberin]

I can seriously think of a dozen (or more things) my parents did that didn't make me happy as a kid. But that doesn't mean I should have had a say in it. Parents are parents and it really isn't their job to base their decisions on whether or not everyone in the family will be happy about it. I made many decisions that my kid wasn't happy about, but I certainly wouldn't have made a different choice based purely on his happiness. Heck, some kids wouldn't be happy unless they were served ice cream and pizza for every meal, every weekend was filled with a trip to Disney World, every school day they could stay home and sleep and every evening they could watch TV until 3:00am.

I would gladly put my child's health and safety above many things, but whether or not my child was happy with an adult, parental decision wouldn't be my biggest concern.

It's more then just unhappiness that these kids are dealing with. I'm sure the older ones are realizing that their mother could die as a result of this pregnancy. And after her health being in jeapordy after the last baby I think it is reckless for her to continue. You may not make choices based on your children's happiness but I'm sure you make choices based on what was best for the entire family. And loosing their mother is not in the best interest of these children.