Lori Alexander 82: The only dissenting voice allowed is her own

[SongRed7]

32 minutes ago, Red Hair, Black Dress said:

The leghumpers are listening intently to "Dr". Lori. and her medical advice.

I'm always so mystified why her followers believe she is an expert in anything, especially the  medical field. Despite all of her "supposedly"  healthy habits, she looks like hell. Her cheeks are sunken, her eyes look like they are being sucked into her head. Her skin has lost all elasticity. She's incoherent and babbling. Yes, I know she has had some health issues, but I know people who have been thru major bouts with cancer and look/act/behave better. 

I'm convinced she has some kind of undiagnosed mental illness(es) (including agoraphobia) coupled with her pharisaical religious beliefs, poor grooming habits, and self "medication" with woo.. Yet, the fangirls eat it up like it's gospel.  

Looking at a recent picture (who knows when it was taken) of her and Ken on her anniversary, she looks a good 10-15 years older than Ken.  I hope no one stands next to Lori with a candle because One spark and her over-fried hair is going up in flames.  

Besides black salve, she warns about vaccines, doesn't believe in mammograms, only went to her recent annual GYN check-ups because she can't get her hormones' script without it, warns against sunscreen, doesn't' believe in well-baby/pediatric visits, doesn't believe in medicine ("unless it's necessary" -- but she never explains who gets to decide that), and spouts misinformation that doctors only learn about x-rays and giving drugs. (I work at an academic health system with affiliated medical school. That one makes me laugh).

People SHOULD NOT consider Lori an expert in ANYTHING, but particularly NOT medicine. Geez. 

 

 

 

Edited May 23, 2023 by SongRed7

[HoneyBunny]

Another case of LazyLori re-writing history. I definitely recall her saying that Ken told he that when the kids were raised he was leaving her. Glad someone is pointing this out. 

[kpmom]

IIRC, she said Ken said something like, “I don’t know what’s going to happen to us once the kids are grown.”  
So I suppose you could truthfully say the D word wasn’t mentioned, if that’s in fact what he said. 
But, it was very clear as to what he meant. So much so that it scared Lori into becoming the “submissive” wife we know today. 
 

 

 

[KWLand]

20 hours ago, kpmom said:

IIRC, she said Ken said something like, “I don’t know what’s going to happen to us once the kids are grown.”  
So I suppose you could truthfully say the D word wasn’t mentioned, if that’s in fact what he said. 
But, it was very clear as to what he meant. So much so that it scared Lori into becoming the “submissive” wife we know today. 
 

 

 

DH said he doesn’t want to be married anymore.  But he says he never said he’d divorce.  His actions, his comments, etc all say “divorce” but he never said the word.   Many ways to say something without saying the actual word.

Lori and Ken clearly are not in a happy marriage so not sure why she’s saying that about her marriage as if it’s a positive thing.  

On 5/23/2023 at 10:24 AM, SongRed7 said:

I'm always so mystified why her followers believe she is an expert in anything, especially the  medical field. Despite all of her "supposedly"  healthy habits, she looks like hell. Her cheeks are sunken, her eyes look like they are being sucked into her head. Her skin has lost all elasticity. She's incoherent and babbling. Yes, I know she has had some health issues, but I know people who have been thru major bouts with cancer and look/act/behave better. 

I'm convinced she has some kind of undiagnosed mental illness(es) (including agoraphobia) coupled with her pharisaical religious beliefs, poor grooming habits, and self "medication" with woo.. Yet, the fangirls eat it up like it's gospel.  

Looking at a recent picture (who knows when it was taken) of her and Ken on her anniversary, she looks a good 10-15 years older than Ken.  I hope no one stands next to Lori with a candle because One spark and her over-fried hair is going up in flames.  

Besides black salve, she warns about vaccines, doesn't believe in mammograms, only went to her recent annual GYN check-ups because she can't get her hormones' script without it, warns against sunscreen, doesn't' believe in well-baby/pediatric visits, doesn't believe in medicine ("unless it's necessary" -- but she never explains who gets to decide that), and spouts misinformation that doctors only learn about x-rays and giving drugs. (I work at an academic health system with affiliated medical school. That one makes me laugh).

People SHOULD NOT consider Lori an expert in ANYTHING, but particularly NOT medicine. Geez. 

 

 

 

Her and I have similar look and mine is from recovering from malnutrition and weight loss.  The only health advice I give to people is to eat and drink even if you aren’t up to it because hospital stays to be rehydrated, etc is miserable.

I hate to say something positive about Lori, but at least she doesn’t filter her looks while giving health advice.   Both extremes are annoying and hold zero weight 

[feministxtian]

21 hours ago, kpmom said:

IIRC, she said Ken said something like, “I don’t know what’s going to happen to us once the kids are grown.”  

For all Lori's pontificating about being a "submissive" wife...this steel spined working harlot and her domesticated husband decided when we got married that divorce was NOT an option, EVER. The joke we had was "homicide, maybe, divorce, NEVER". It wasn't always easy and there were times it truly SUCKED, but...divorce was never on the table, through that whole better/worse, rich/poor, sickness/health thing. Neither of us portrayed ourselves as martyrs, we took care of each other. More than I can say for the "transformed wife" and her dipshit husband. 

[HoneyBunny]

Her latest TikTok. This woman is clearly not well. 

[Loveday]

2 hours ago, HoneyBunny said:

Her latest TikTok. This woman is clearly not well. 

Interesting. She says she isn't going to 'argue' with men anymore. She's always insisted that she DOESN'T argue with men. And she's going to be 'quiet' in the comments? Maybe, but I think she'll just disguise her usual responses to comments as new posts instead, and we'll see more than her regularly scheduled two a day FB posts.

Oh--and is it just me, is it a dental filter on Tik Tok (is there such a thing?!), or has she had some work done on her teeth? I don't remember them being quite so perfectly straight and blindingly white before.😳

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

I think she'll not "argue" and be "quiet" in the comments by deleting anything she disagrees with or doesn't like. That way there is noting to argue with or be quiet about.

I agree she does not look well.

I think those straight blindingly white teeth may be false.

Edited to add:  At 1:06 Lori announces "I have a brain tumor" (bolding mine).  Have -- as in right now, I thought the cyber-knife took care of that?  So is the tumor back? Is this why she looks so unwell?

She also says she doesn't have a lot of cortisone. her hormones are all messed up, stress is not good for her, it can "literally" make her sick. and affect her heart.

Well of course she doesn't have a lot of cortisone.

Cortisone is a man-made steroid, a version of the natural hormone Cortisol. Generally cortisone is an anti-inflammatory that works by preventing collagen production in tendons or joints.  It calms nerves thus indirectly reducing pain.

I can't imagine Lori is getting cortisone shots for her brain tumor, Maybe for her neck? But then she doesn't believe in pain medication, so what is she blithering about.

Edited May 25, 2023 by Red Hair, Black Dress

[Loveday]

@Red Hair, Black Dress, I thought her teeth looked suspiciously false as well, but couldn't be sure as she clearly used a bit of a filter in general on this video. They don't even look like veneers to me, they just look...well, false. LOL.

She looks more and more gaunt by the day. As for the tumor, if I recall correctly, the last cyber-knife treatment she had did as much as it could without getting rid of the tumor altogether, and her doctors said they probably wouldn't do it again if it started to grow back. And then later on, I think she mentioned that it HAD started to grow back a bit. Does anyone else remember that, or am I imagining it? 

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

Since her original "God told me to stop arguing and be meek and quiet" post, Lori has put up 3 additional posts exhorting women to be meek and quiet.

Somehow I don't see 4 posts on being meek and quiet as being meek and quiet. At. All.

Maybe Lori should just STFU and do what God "told" her to do -- Be. Quiet.

(We can but hope.)

[Loveday]

As completely expected, Lori has issued her opinion on the Shiny Happy People documentary about the Duggars and IBLP. I'll post her entire screed here so you don't have to give her blog any more clicks if you don't want to.

It's called 'Defending Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar.' Naturally. 

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Jill and Jinger Duggar are advancing the persecution of Christians. They were raised by parents who had strong convictions based upon the Bible. They defined modesty by wearing dresses. They defined being sexually pure by not kissing until the wedding day. There’s nothing wrong with having strong personal convictions based upon biblical commands. They absolutely taught their children the Gospel and that true salvation was through faith in Christ alone, but faith without works is dead since our faith is shown by our works.

Were their parents perfect? No. No parents are perfect, but they did what they felt was best for their family. And no, they weren’t soft on Josh. Jim Bob took him to the police. They did what they felt was necessary at the time to stop their son who had a rebellious heart. Even the most godly parents can have children who rebel against God.

Now, Amazon has a show mocking them and saying their beliefs which were biblical (husbands as head of their wives, wives submitting to their husbands, children obeying parents…) are evil and making false accusations such as the parent’s goal was to force these beliefs on everyone thus making more people disgusted with Christianity.

There are other couples I have watched who were raised with Gothard’s teachings. They had no problems with it. Their parents taught them that Jesus is the only one they worship since all men are fallible. After they were married, they came to their own convictions which is how it should be.

Jinger and Jill should have worked it out privately in their own marriages and with their parents. They’ve come to their own convictions and that’s fine, but to say their childhood was dangerous, they are simply harming the name of Christ and as a result, unbelievers and Satan are rejoicing

 

Oh, and on her FB page, she's 'limited' people who can comment on this post. Meaning, she KNOWS that even some of her leghumpers are going to strongly disagree with her on this subject.

Edited June 2, 2023 by Loveday
added a thought

[kpmom]

So she has defended Josh, a child molester and viewer of child pornography, in the past (according to Ken all the boys he grew up with touched their sisters. No big deal 🤮), but the two Duggar sisters, who still appear pretty conservative to me (I don’t follow the Duggars closely) are “persecuting Christians”. 
Lori, you are disgusting. 

[feministxtian]

Just give Lazy Lori's "opinions" all the consideration they're due...NONE! She has a shtick and a brand. She's a hateful, nasty, stupid bitch. And yeah, I'd say that to her face if I ever had the misfortune of seeing her in public. 

[HoneyBunny]

She’s having a cow about Happy Shiny People on her Twitter account, and is getting a lot of pushback. Cue comment deletions and account blocking in 5…4…3.

[Foursquare]

Do we know why Lori is so supportive of the Duggars/Gothard/IBLP? It's not how she was raised nor how she raised her family. 

[Fallgirl30]

5 hours ago, Foursquare said:

Do we know why Lori is so supportive of the Duggars/Gothard/IBLP? It's not how she was raised nor how she raised her family. 

I think she’s attracted to high control environments and she isn’t comfortable with a lot of agency, she needs to keep her world and options small so she found a theology and made it extra.  She’s always loved the Duggars because they have so many kids who are always compliant and cheerful.  She went to a Gothard seminar in high schools and she loved it so since her experience was great, everyone else’s was great too and there is no deviating from that.  Emotions make Lori uncomfortable so no one is allowed to have them.

[Red Hair, Black Dress]

Lori posted JBoob and MooShell's response to Shiny Happy People. It's what you'd expect.

Nothing those 2 vile people have said, are saying, or ever will say can make up for hiding what Joshly did, defending him, and forcing their daughters to say publicly it was no big and everything is all forgiven. Bygones.

Lori defends a molester, a porn addict, a truly vile perverse human.  Then she goes further by continuously defending the Dugger parents. Who allowed the molester, porn addict and vile perverse human to live and flourish in their home. 

From Lori's behavior and her constant unwavering Dugger defense, I can only believe that she, like Ken, believes that molestation is no big thing, that it happens in most families, and that it's up to the victims to just get over it and forgive the molester. 

I truly wonder if LoriKen would think the same way if one of their daughters had been molested by a family member.  Unfortunately I think the answer is yes

 

[Loveday]

I've been scrollng through her posts on Twitter the last day or so, and the amount of doubling down on her defense of them is just mind-boggling. It doesn't matter what anyone says to her about anything related to the Duggars, Gothard, blanket training, the Pearls, or anything else regarding the documentary, she flat out REFUSES to back down one iota from her stance that it's all one big fat lie from the pit of hell and Jill Duggar is a traitor to her parents. 😕

[SongRed7]

12 hours ago, Fallgirl30 said:

I think she’s attracted to high control environments and she isn’t comfortable with a lot of agency, she needs to keep her world and options small so she found a theology and made it extra.  She’s always loved the Duggars because they have so many kids who are always compliant and cheerful.  She went to a Gothard seminar in high schools and she loved it so since her experience was great, everyone else’s was great too and there is no deviating from that.  Emotions make Lori uncomfortable so no one is allowed to have them.

BINGO.  She is pharisaical  -- she never met a rule she didn't like. She has reduced Christianity and faith into a legalistic "don't do this, you must do this" formula  for Godliness.  As a active, practicing Christian, I find her brand of Christianity abhorrent.  she has no love. And while she often does say that salvation is by faith alone, the rest of her words and action constantly contradict that -- by adding all these dos and don'ts which , if you don't follow to a T, proves that you aren't really a Christian in the first place. 

The ironic thing is that Lori would have much more credibility if on occasion she humbly admitted she was wrong, but she never will. She'll be talking about this for weeks on end. She just doubles down and doubles down. 

AND, didn't she say she was done arguing with people online? Was going to be more humble and quiet?   That didn't last long. 

 

Edited June 5, 2023 by SongRed7

[Pammy]

For your amusement, I did a "translation" of Lori's post about IBLP:

"Jill and Jinger Duggar are advancing the idea of public accountability for people who call themselves Christians, and I hate it. They were raised by legalist parents, strictly following practices that have no basis in the Bible whatsoever, like these: Instead of following what the Bible says about modesty, they redefined it to be about women wearing dresses (a garment that did not exist in Biblical times). Instead of following what the Bible says about sexual chastity, the redefined 'purity' and made it about kissing. I see nothing wrong with redefining things and ignoring the Bible in that way. They absolutely taught their children a threatening and abusive form of the gospel which coerced them into clinging to Jesus as their only faint hope under such threats of eternal suffering and deep personal shame. They then added a ton of 'works' which the children produced eagerly in order to prove they were worthy of love and belonging.

Their parents were terribly flawed, but I consider spiritual and emotional abuse normal, and I agree that can be good idea to raise a family that way. And, no, I also don't have any disagreement with the way they covered up Josh's sexual deviation during adolescence instead of getting him the help he needed before he grew up to be a felon -- nor with the way they suppressed and revictimized their daughters after those events. Jim Bob's strategy to take Josh to talk to a police officer friend of his to scare him straight (with no actual police action being taken) clearly worked out for the best! Avoiding all common-sense consequences and services for their son means that anything that followed in Josh's life was a 'rebellion against God' and nothing the parents (or the leadership the parents were following) should be accountable for.

Now, it's horrible that footage they created for themselves, and the free speech of the people involved in ILBP has been produced and released in a way that shines light on the flaws! I hate that Amazon keeps saying that beliefs that aren't Biblical (like unconditional patriarchal authority in families) aren't healthy either! I hate that they are making it seem like people who went on TV for the purpose of proselytization and who went into politics for the purpose of passing laws on a religious foundation -- actually had the goal of forcing their beliefs on everyone. That's disgusting.

My personal experience of IBLP followers and their children shows that people who approve of and agree with those teachings don't have any problem following them! That proves that the teachings are harmless. They worship Jesus, so it's all good. Even though the grown children totally rejected the lifestyle, they did it without causing a documentary, so that's fine. It's the people who tell stories of how they suffered damage that are the real problem.

Jinger and Jill should have kept their mouths shut. Even as adults, they could have left the lifestyle without calling attention to how toxic it is. That way IBLP could have kept the power to hurt as many more people and corrupt as many more families as possible. Telling people that some organizations that claim the label "Christian" are actually dangerous isn't what Jesus referred to when he talked about "wolves in sheep's clothing"! There's no honour in calling them out. The 'unbelievers' don't respect honesty, accountability, or self-policing among Christians at all. The only way I think Christianity can be palatable in the world is if we deceive everybody and massively cover up anything that goes wrong. That's how we keep 'the name of Christ' pure: through secrecy and lies.

[Alisamer]

I can translate it a bit more succinctly: 

Lori: "Look at me tooooo! I'm also (virally) famous for being a strict rule-enforcing super-Christian! Don't listen to these people sharing their actual lived experience, follow my Twitter and buy my book! Or at least complain about me enough that I get some more viral exposure! BTW you're all going to hell!"

1 hour ago, SongRed7 said:

BINGO.  She is pharisaical  -- she never met a rule she didn't like. She has reduced Christianity and faith into a legalistic "don't do this, you must do this" formula  for Godliness.  As a active, practicing Christian, I find her brand of Christianity abhorrent.  she has no love. And while she often does say that salvation is by faith alone, the rest of her words and action constantly contradict that -- by adding all these dos and don'ts which , if you don't follow to a T, proves that you aren't really a Christian in the first place. 

Lori doesn't experience emotion like normal people. She doesn't understand that other people don't have to "learn" how to love their children or their spouse or their family*. She doesn't get that most other people have emotions naturally, they don't have to figure out what emotion is expected in each situation and then try to manufacture it. Some people feel or express emotion more or less strongly than others, but Lori doesn't seem to feel emotions at all, except some sort of satisfaction when she sees other people suffer. 

So I can see how the "checklist" type of religion appeals to her. She chose to marry Ken because he checked off the boxes on her "husband" checklist. She literally said as much. So naturally it makes sense that the sort of religion that appeals to her is one where you do certain things, check off the right boxes on the list, and get to go to heaven. 

Especially since she doubled down on the religion thing AFTER the vast majority of it no longer applied to her actual life. 

*I do get there are exceptions, often due to medical or mental health issues. But I suggest Lori is an outlier - she's not fallen out of love with Ken or had postpartum depression and had to get through that to properly feel the love for her babies. The babies were a means of getting out of working. Ken was a means of obtaining a meal ticket. Going whole-hog on religious submission was a means of keeping Ken from divorcing her haggard ass. And tweeting about this documentary is a means of getting some of that attention pointed toward herself.

[ADoyle90815]

Since Lori/Ken defend a child molester and the controlling cult the Duggars belong to, she would side with the abuser over her own daughter if that happened to her. Child molestation is NOT a normal thing at all, and it's not something that happens in all families, although most perpetrators are people known to the victim and the family, such as someone from their church, coaches, or even babysitters. 

[SongRed7]

I’m glad to see that there aren’t many posts on the Lori forum. I hope that is because she is becoming irrelevant and no one is paying her no mind.   I know I am sick to death of her beating every dead horse. Here latest til tok videos makes marriage seem most unattractive and akin to slavery. Did you see the one where Ken can spend what he wants and she has to ask permission? Or the sex talk one?  Even the thumb nails for the videos look dour and sad.  And this is supposed to “encouragement” for how to have a Godly marriage. These messages are motivation for living the best life God intended for you?? Not very convincing. Who’s taking advice from this woman? She doesn’t look joyful, happy or anything. 

[kpmom]

I’m afraid to ask, but what did she say in sex talk one?

[Fallgirl30]

That woman needs some red meat and starchy carbs.