Lori Alexander 82: The only dissenting voice allowed is her own

[samurai_sarah]

Carry on from here:

 

[Celtic Roots]

Lori believes that she has the absolute truth (or should I write Truth, as she does) about anything and everything Biblical. Every view she holds is correct according to her. I wonder how she reads Luke 18: 9 - 14, the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector going to pray. Does she ever ask God for mercy? Does she ever consider herself a sinner?

And her diatribes on female clergy are so hateful. How does she function each day with such hate in her heart?

[Loveday]

2 hours ago, Celtic Roots said:

Lori believes that she has the absolute truth (or should I write Truth, as she does) about anything and everything Biblical. Every view she holds is correct according to her. I wonder how she reads Luke 18: 9 - 14, the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector going to pray. Does she ever ask God for mercy? Does she ever consider herself a sinner?

And her diatribes on female clergy are so hateful. How does she function each day with such hate in her heart?

I can't recall their exact words, but several times in the past few years both Lori and Ken have stated that they are no longer sinners. They don't need to pray for forgiveness because Christ forgave them all their sins, past and future, and they're no longer capable of sinning, or words to that effect. I'm not sure where that particular belief comes from, but it's not in any denominational doctrine I'm familiar with! 😲

[Celtic Roots]

Today Lori reports that the school systems and medicine have both become corrupt. Clutch your pearls, everyone!

Lori, your life has been saved by that system you call corrupt. And that system has provided an excellent income and lifestyle not only for you and Ken but also for your two sons and two sons-in-law (even if Jon only worked in it for a short time) and their families. Don't forget your daughter Cassi works in it now as well. Ken, if your clients see this post, you will, as Desi told Lucy, have "some splaining" to do. (I hope that reference to I Love Lucy is not too old for everyone!)

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[Loveday]

Great response to Lori's post today:

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 get over yourself. Seriously. Not only do teachers love and care for their own children, but I’ve loved and cared for other people’s children over the course of my career. Love isn’t divided, it is multiplied by the many different people in our lives. Your world view is sad and pathetic.

Aaaannnd, of course, Lori trots out her bog-standard reply to that:

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You aren’t fighting me, you’re fighting God.

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[Red Hair, Black Dress]

Lori dragged women dentists in one of the replies to today's FB.

You know -- those women dentists that hire Ken and through his money allow Lazy Lori to remain at home, permanent logged into every social media site. The money that provides Lori with her 6 bedroom house, all the woo she wants, and $14/lb butter. The money that allows her to takes months long vacations in Door County.

Lori think about it for a moment.  You owe your cushy life to the "sin" of women working -- working in the medical profession no less.

Lori doesn't that make you feel like a hypocrite, profiting from women's "sin" while you rail at them about that "sin"? 

No?  I guess it doesn't.  Being as you're a raging, flaming, nasty, hypocrite. of the worst kind.

Edited February 27, 2023 by Red Hair, Black Dress

[Loveday]

I'm sure it doesn't bother her at all. Those women aren't 'Real' Christians or they would be at home with their children. Therefore, in Lori's mind they don't count, so she's not being hypocritical at all. She only teaches real Christians anyway. Waste of time talking to non-Christians.

Never mind the Great Commission. Sharing the Gospel isn't mentioned in the two or three Bible verses Lori focuses on in her 'ministry,' so she doesn't bother with it.🙄

[SongRed7]

So here's my latest theory with Lori who loves attention. She states recently son Steven and family were visiting and then every one including Lori has been sick recently. So because she had company and was sick (so so sick) so wasn't posting as much. Her pancake and "fantastic pizza" recipes weren't getting the interaction she wanted. So  BOOM

So she had to get her audience back by posting something uber controversial (women shouldn't want to be teachers or nurses because they are corrupt).  She is never really happy unless she is stirring it up. 

 

ON another note, did anyone catch the post about Flicka. It seems our gently odd lady is terminally ill.  I feel oddly sad. She may have been nutty and her stories fantastical, but I think she had a genuineness that Lori will never possess. 

 

[Loveday]

3 hours ago, SongRed7 said:

ON another note, did anyone catch the post about Flicka. It seems our gently odd lady is terminally ill.  I feel oddly sad. She may have been nutty and her stories fantastical, but I think she had a genuineness that Lori will never possess. 

 

Yes, I saw that. She has pancreatic cancer. I feel awful for her, it's what my mother had and it's a particularly bad way to die. I agree that she really does have a genuineness to her that Lori wouldn't even recognise let alone have herself. I hope Flicka is getting the best of hospice care and is as free from pain as possible. 😢 

[Celtic Roots]

Now Lori wants to have the final word on mental illness. What an ignorant, dangerous post. And I wonder what triggered this tirade. Is someone she knows, even someone in her family, struggling?

Frankly, I worry about her daughter Cassi. Lori and Ken previously proudly announced they were on both daughters for any weight gain of even 5 pounds when they were younger. I imagine they have something else, probably relating to their parenting style, to harp on now.

Cassi and her husband were married in January 2014. They will shortly have their sixth child. She manages his orthodontic practice. All that is a big load of pressure mixed up with hormones that likely did not even out much between pregnancies. Would Lori seek out help for her daughter if she developed post-partum depression?

And I also wonder, as the number of grandchildren increases, so do the chances that at least one or two might have a significant/difficult medical or learning issue. One of them might even be gay. (Wouldn't that be something!) How would Lori handle any of those scenarios? Prayer only? Denial? Rejection?

[Alisamer]

1 hour ago, Celtic Roots said:

And I also wonder, as the number of grandchildren increases, so do the chances that at least one or two might have a significant/difficult medical or learning issue. One of them might even be gay. (Wouldn't that be something!) How would Lori handle any of those scenarios? Prayer only? Denial? Rejection?

I think Lori would proudly and loudly shun a gay grandchild. Unless it benefited her somehow to maintain the relationship (perhaps Ken suggests she should, and she doesn't want to lose his funding). She cares more about being self-righteous than being a good person.

[Jackie3]

Lori's post today is the most insane and damaging one I've seen. A woman is going to die because of her advice one day.

[Pammy]

Today Lori has republished an 8,500 word (17 page) unhinged essay on divorce and feminism and everything else wrong with America by David J. Stewart in 2006, cribbed from his website. I did a quick check into who this author might be, which turned into quite a deep dive. The internet suggests that Mr. Stewart is a rabid KJV-only internet troll, trained by Hyles-Anderson College (1985-1993). It further suggests that he was divorced by his wife, in 2006, after having been charged with having sex with a minor and pleading guilty to child abuse. He has also variously claimed to both be and not be a Christian believer, and is accused of both holding and not holding various trademark fundamentalist positions.

Lori clearly has no idea who she is dealing with. Nonetheless, she just loves what this bitter, rejected, sex offender has to say about women!

Keeping this to less than 17 pages, here’s what Mr. Stewart has to say:

Women are allowed to leave physically abusive spouses, but not divorce them (because Bible) and not have any future relationships (because adultery). He expects 70x7 forgiveness for husbands who sin against their wives and calls divorce a sin of ‘hate, unforgiveness, and hypocrisy’. He particularly admires wives who are ‘faithful’ to men who are in prison. I wonder why.

He bemoans American divorce rates, claiming that in 1900 less than one percent of the whole American population was divorced, comparing it to allegedly 75 percent in California at the time of writing. Personally I doubt both of those statistics – but if either one is accurate, I doubt that they are statistical measures of the same thing-about-divorce, or that they were calculated in the same way.

Mr. Stewart claims the following causes for divorce

-        Television

-        Women’s liberation

-        Feminism

-        Greedy lawyers

-        “A Communist agenda to destroy America’s families by rigging the court system always in favor of divorce”

All of which sounds exactly like a man who got his butt handed to him in court and thinks he’s been treated unfairly. To avoid this, he recommends people avoid the entirety of American society.

He looks at a lot of imaginary reasons why ‘people’ justify sins like abortion, gambling, drinking, homosexuality, feminism, and divorce. He says, “The feminist (rebellious) wife attempts to justify the sin of divorce by self-righteously condemning her husband for any reason possible; while she hypocritically overlooks her own faults that largely caused the marital conflict.” – any guesses who he blames for the breakdown of his own marriage? He calls marriage vows a fraud and claims people are quick to abandon them, and accuses people of ‘hiding behind their children’ as a lame excuse for people who only think about themselves.

Because he believes that men have the right to dominate women and rule over them, he calls feminism a form of rebellion, which one Bible verse compares in a metaphor to witchcraft. This leads Mr. Stewart to conclude that feminists are witches.

Mr. Stewart also believes that new laws have made it illegal for husbands to raise their voices, and that men are being jailed for doing so. This is not true in any jurisdiction that I am aware of, as it would be a tremendously difficult law to enforce or administer in any way. He goes to great effort to normalize husbands yelling at their wives ‘to discipline them’ by pretending that yelling at people is a normal way of expressing authority: for example, by police or in military training. He is shocked that yelling at one’s wife is considered an abusive act, rather than his preference that people should ‘recognize a man’s authority over his wife’ and accept that yelling is normal conduct for people in authority.

He then gets distracted by a major tangent about raising kids and his need to ‘rule over’ them freely without government interference, and especially without any constraints by the United Nations assertion that children have inherent rights.

Returning to his defense of spousal abuse as God’s plan for marriages, he alleges that since men can no longer freely rule their wives through intimidation, women have become “sassy, arrogant, and rebellious against masculine authority, particularly in the home” – which is just saying the same thing three ways: women consider themselves equal to men, and aren’t afraid to say so.

For Mr. Stewart, this equality is “the Devil’s work” leading American women to dress like sex workers, have “impudent character” and “lewd conduct” – one example of which he gives having been in a worship service where he stared at women’s backsides the whole time and memorized how they moved in all of their trouser-clad glory. In this story, the sinner is not the man who spent a whole church service staring at women’s butts, but the women committing the sin of having butts, and their pastor who failed to teach them ‘holy living’. He attributes the pastor’s neglect of teaching women how to hide their butts better to the love of money.

After this moment of distraction by women’s butts, Mr. Stewart returns to his argument against having been divorced by his ex-wife. He misunderstands Jesus’ call to forgiveness of one-another as a requirement that women remain in relationship no matter how a husband sins against her. Her forgiveness should be infinite, or she forfeits her own salvation, and that forgiveness must be expressed by continuation of the marriage. He blames “sinful pride” for “all divorces” and claims that the sin of wifely disobedience is the equivalent sin to a husband’s sin of domestic violence. He wants more national attention on the domestic problem of insubordinate wives to balance out the public narrative.

He builds a big case for the subordination of women in marriage based on a misunderstanding of one word in the Bible. Unfortunately for him, hupotasso does not mean subordination. It is a word focused on humility, support and putting others first. It does not give people the right to rule over one-another.

He engages with the fallacy that everything must have one leader, or it is doomed to failure – which is neither true in everyday life, nor is it represented in the Bible. Hupotasso has nothing to do with leadership.

Mr. Stewart then throws a pity party about how hard it is on him that virtuous, obedient, subordination-happy women are so hard for a good man to find in today’s world. He threatens his women readers with eternal judgement and cosmic public shame if they fail to obey and please their husbands while they have the chance. He correctly identifies that feminism does indeed reject the teaching that a wife is to obey her husband.

His advice for abuse is to endure it, as Christ endured the cross, as an act of love – and to look for ways to “reconcile the situation” other than divorce. He thinks that love should make people willing to suffer for their spouses – and at the hands of their spouse. “No matter what one’s spouse does, divorce should never be an option.” He says that it is God’s will for abused women to avoid “self-pity” and “hang in there like you PROMISED on your wedding day, when you made a VOW to remain faithful through better or worse until death.”

A little aside does acknowledge that husbands too should love, and that love should prevent them from abusing their wives too – but he knows it doesn’t always. So his advice still stands.

To further illustrate his point, he provides a letter detailing significant domestic violence, “He calls me a cunt, whore, etc. breaks my things, forbids me to see certain people, and he may even kill me one day.” – as an example of why a woman should be more self-aware and recognize that she herself is not righteous either. He calls her descriptions of abuse and fear of her life nothing but justifications for the selfish choice to divorce an abuser. Mr. Stewart alleges that in situations of domestic violence, “If you love someone, then you’ll put up with them.”

For context, he goes on to provide a few examples of people sinning and justifying it, such as “homosexuals, fornicators, witches, abortionists” as well as the Jewish people referenced in Jeremiah 7:9-10 who were breaking the ten commandments but continuing to offer temple worship, and also the “American people” who justified nuclear testing in Bikini Atoll, and Hitler. (Of course. Always Hitler.) And then some fun ones: “Hugh Hefner justifies his pornography. NAMBLA justifies their pedophilia. GLSEN justifies homosexuality and teaching it to public school children. Divorce is no different.”

Mr. Stewart considers any person who divorces for any reason to be “abandoning their spouse who needs them, and quitting” and says, “I’m glad God doesn’t look for reasons to stab us in the back and move on” – which sounds like he’s got a lot of feelings about his ex-wife being expressed here.

I’ll conclude with this quote, even though it’s less than half way through the post: “Either you love your spouse or you don’t. If you don’t, then you need to get right with God yourself. If you do love your spouse, then you’ll stay with them” – and that’s exactly what Mr. Stewart thinks about all of this, and it's what Lori thinks too.

[Celtic Roots]

Pammy,

Thank you so much for your willingness to "take one for the troops" with regard to David J Stewart. I had a hard enough time skimming the 17 page rant. I had thought about researching him, but was distracted by some other tasks. My guess was that he had gone through a divorce he considered nasty, with the possibility of some child abuse issues, but had not considered the sex with a minor charge.

You are absolutely correct that "Lori clearly has no idea who she is dealing with. Nonetheless, she just loves what this bitter, rejected, sex offender has to say about women!" This seems too significant to have slipped by Ken's supervision (if he still has any say in what she spews out). Ken, it's time to hold off on pickleball and check your wife's posts. 

As an aside, perhaps the reason why she will never say what church they attend (although the name of Carlsbad Community Church was stated by someone on Facebook) is that the pastor/elders have read some of her posts and do not want the association.. 

[Giraffe]

Lori, women in the US weren’t allowed to get their own bank accounts until the late 1970’s! So of course the divorce rate was lower back then. We now live in an era where women have viable options, even though you refuse to accept that. 

[HoneyBunny]

LazyLori is having a meltdown today over International Women’s Day, and I am thrilled to see it.

[kpmom]

1 hour ago, HoneyBunny said:

LazyLori is having a meltdown today over International Women’s Day, and I am thrilled to see it.

Somebody needs to tell Gloria Sihlis that *every* other day is International Men’s Day. 

[Caroline]

Lori Alexander is the topic of this week's Leaving Eden podcast. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. When normal people talk about her and her wacky ideas she sounds even more ridiculous. 

[BlackberryGirl]

Where can I find his screed? 

[SongRed7]

Barbie dolls. add Barbie dolls to things that Lori hates (but played with as a youth!!) and that were designed to shove feminism down everyone's throats.  Actually I'm surprised it took her this long to speak out against Barbie's. 

I wonder if a granddaughter has one?

 

[Alisamer]

On 3/7/2023 at 1:58 PM, Pammy said:

Because he believes that men have the right to dominate women and rule over them, he calls feminism a form of rebellion, which one Bible verse compares in a metaphor to witchcraft. This leads Mr. Stewart to conclude that feminists are witches.

LOL. This dude is a total nutter. Unfortunately also a pedo creep, and even worse - he has an audience.

No, dude, not all feminists are witches. I haven't personally met any witches who aren't feminists, though. I'm sure there are some out there, though, my sample size is really small. 

1 hour ago, SongRed7 said:

Barbie dolls. add Barbie dolls to things that Lori hates (but played with as a youth!!) and that were designed to shove feminism down everyone's throats.  Actually I'm surprised it took her this long to speak out against Barbie's. 

I wonder if a granddaughter has one?

 

Of course. Barbie has had many jobs and wears all different sorts of clothes and stirs the imagination. 

None of those are good things, in Lazy Lori's eyes. 

I personally think she's miserable with Ken, but loves his money. And she can't stand to see anyone else be happy and content. She's a sad scared miserable psychopathic mean hateful shrew, too lazy and ignorant to be able to survive without a man funding her, whose only joy is watching other women suffer. She has no empathy, no true emotions other than anger, no perspective and very little common sense. 

 

[Melissa1977]

On 3/1/2023 at 8:05 PM, Celtic Roots said:

Cassi and her husband were married in January 2014. They will shortly have their sixth child. She manages his orthodontic practice. All that is a big load of pressure mixed up with hormones

And she homeschools, doesn't she? And I guess she has to stay slim, too. 

I hope she has a helper at home or a babysitter, at least. 

Cassi seems to be ALL Lori wants. Quiverful, submissive, homeschooler and, in addition, being her husband's secretary so he doesn't need to hire one (in Lori's head, men cheat with assistants and of course assistants are never male). I may be wrong... but I think a psycologist would have hard work with Cassi.

[HoneyBunny]

LazyLori is looking rough. I don’t know what she needs…protein? fats? to stop frying her hair with her at home hair coloring?  mental health help? Anyway, she looks and sounds very Mommie Dearest in her latest rant but is getting some pushback. 

[Hane]

@HoneyBunny, I’m a few years older than Lori, and “looking rough” comes to many of us, no matter how carefully we attend to nutrition and grooming! 

[HoneyBunny]

@Hane I’m just a year or two younger than her, and understand, but there is something dead in her eyes also. Faces, regardless of age, can be love filled or empty, and hers is just haggard and empty.