Josh and Anna 56: AMA and Stuck in Duggarville?

[Father Son Holy Goat]

On 1/21/2023 at 2:46 AM, Smee said:

Hopefully, they’ll get the fuck out of fundie land and be taken in by a sympathetic heathen who doesn’t define them by their father’s crimes and encourages them towards secular counselling. And then they’ll cut off both their parents for the sake of their own mental health. Sadly I doubt all will make it out, but I really really hope some do. Other fundies aren’t going to let those kids forget the “sins of the father” and will expect it to become part of their testimony.

No indeed, other fundies will not let them forget what their dad did. Sadly, their trauma will be further used to suit other’s agenda in the future.

[Chickenbutt]

Katie Joy, WOACB, is saying Josh was caught with a cell phone and is "in the SHU (special housing unit)", allegedly (as she often says)

[Father Son Holy Goat]

1 hour ago, Chickenbutt said:

Katie Joy, WOACB, is saying Josh was caught with a cell phone and is "in the SHU (special housing unit)", allegedly (as she often says)

It wouldn’t shock me but I’m going to need more than WOACB.

[Chickenbutt]

@Father Son Holy Goat lol...I totally agree with you. Just an interesting tidbit to think about. 

 

[Father Son Holy Goat]

2 minutes ago, Chickenbutt said:

@Father Son Holy Goat lol...I totally agree with you. Just an interesting tidbit to think about. 

 

I could totally see Josh disregarding the rules because they don’t apply to him and getting a cell phone. 
 

If this is true, I hope it is a wake up call for Anna. If Josh is getting sent to the prison within a prison he isn’t going to change. Not even prison can get him to behave himself. 

[Chickenbutt]

Yep, he is a POS

[marmalade]

1 hour ago, Father Son Holy Goat said:

I could totally see Josh disregarding the rules because they don’t apply to him and getting a cell phone. 
 

If this is true, I hope it is a wake up call for Anna. If Josh is getting sent to the prison within a prison he isn’t going to change. Not even prison can get him to behave himself. 

Anna will likely say Smuggar was framed by the guard who allegedly gave him the phone.

Edited February 11, 2023 by marmalade

[Anne Of Gray Gables]

Caught with a cell phone in prison? I'm sure he was just holding it for Caleb. 

[BadMurphy]

Come on Anna he had the phone so he could text you (not look at pr0n).  Oh wait you didn’t get any texts? ….

[BullyJBG]

16 hours ago, Chickenbutt said:

Katie Joy, WOACB, is saying Josh was caught with a cell phone and is "in the SHU (special housing unit)", allegedly (as she often says)

There was an old Josh who lived in a shoe he had so many children he didn't know what to do so he looked at some porn and got him in jail and still waiting for someone to get him his bail.........

  (singing)

And threw him out the window.........

[Anne Of Gray Gables]

If the story is true and Josh is willing to boldly break rules after being in Seagoville for only about seven or eight months, my guess is he'll continue trying to smuggle in contraband, or at least be willing to buy things other inmates have snuck in. At some point he may end up doing even more time. For now I'm just enjoying the thought of him spending 30 days in the hole (or "the shoe" as they call in it Seagoville).

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[Coconut Flan]

The SHU - Special Housing Unit.  I also appreciate the loss of good time credits.  He may end up serving the full sentence plus.  

[Mama Mia]

I’m not in favor of solitary confinement for any prisoner. It makes people lose their minds. I understand it’s prison, I understand there need to be consequences for breaking rules, but IMO, solitary, at least lasting more than a couple days,  should be off the table . 

[Anne Of Gray Gables]

Just now, Mama Mia said:

I’m not in favor of solitary confinement for any prisoner. It makes people lose their minds. I understand it’s prison, I understand there need to be consequences for breaking rules, but IMO, solitary, at least lasting more than a couple days,  should be off the table . 

While I agree that prisoners should not spend long periods of time in solitary, I have no problem with a 30 day "break" when contraband is found. Aside from adding time to the sentence, there isn't much else that can be done to prevent major rule breaking and make prisoners think twice next time. But what Josh really should be worried about his being sent to a medium security prison where overall conditions would likely be much tougher.

Of course, this all assumes Katie Joy has good intel, so many grains of salt.

[anjulibai]

Having a cell phone is pretty common in prisons. My cousin has been in higher security prisons than Josh for over 15 years now, but he's had a cell off and on most of this time. They aren't hard to get. 

[WarriorJane]

The SHU is not solitary confinement, and inmates are not housed there for punitive reasons.

[Anne Of Gray Gables]

1 hour ago, WarriorJane said:

The SHU is not solitary confinement, and inmates are not housed there for punitive reasons.

According to Katie Joy's alleged source, Josh was placed there for disciplinary reasons.  The BOP page says "Inmates may be placed in SHU for Administrative Detention or for Disciplinary Segregation."

https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_shu.jsp#:~:text=Inmates may be placed in,Housing Units for more information).

[AussieKrissy]

I more think he was out there for his own safety, maybe he has been threatened. 

[Bastet]

I want to know what he used the phone for. Who did he call? What sites did he visit? 

[Father Son Holy Goat]

6 hours ago, Mama Mia said:

I’m not in favor of solitary confinement for any prisoner. It makes people lose their minds. I understand it’s prison, I understand there need to be consequences for breaking rules, but IMO, solitary, at least lasting more than a couple days,  should be off the table . 

Isn’t one of his conditions no ownership of a cellphone? 

[NoneIsEnough]

5 hours ago, Father Son Holy Goat said:

Isn’t one of his conditions no ownership of a cellphone? 

He can't have any device that connects to the internet or has photo storage capabilities. So he could have an old school cell phone to use for texting and calling. 

[Sops2]

Reputedly, the cost of a phone in Seagoville is 1500 dollars.

Where did he get the money for it?

Was it smuggled in?

[Cam]

17 hours ago, Anne Of Gray Gables said:

If the story is true and Josh is willing to boldly break rules after being in Seagoville for only about seven or eight months, my guess is he'll continue trying to smuggle in contraband, or at least be willing to buy things other inmates have snuck in. At some point he may end up doing even more time. For now I'm just enjoying the thought of him spending 30 days in the hole (or "the shoe" as they call in it Seagoville).

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[Four is Enough]

17 hours ago, anjulibai said:

Having a cell phone is pretty common in prisons. My cousin has been in higher security prisons than Josh for over 15 years now, but he's had a cell off and on most of this time. They aren't hard to get. 

My son has been in higher security prison, too. Never had a cell phone. Not even "just" in the county lockup. Point is, they may be easy to get, but they ain't supposed to be got!

[Coconut Flan]

It became such a problem that there is even a federal law that says no cell phones for inmates at federal prisons.  So Josh, if the story is true, broke another federal law.  That's one reason the consequences can so serious.