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32 minutes ago, MaryOrMartha said:

I've long had a feeling that Joy would be the Duggar to have twins and I have a feeling this is it!

Let’s hope not. 

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Oh I hope she doesn’t have twins. I don’t care that Esther Staddon had twins because it was her first pregnancy and she’s advanced maternal age. But Joy is young. And her kids are spaced well. Twins would make life more difficult for them. 

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23 minutes ago, MsSaylor said:

I saw pics where they are holding an ultrasound so I don’t think it’s twins. 

Yeah, that's not a twin ultrasound. At that point the ultrasound is actually more obvious because the area is small and you can see both sacs easily. 

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I just watched a video of her shilling some kind of hairstyling tool yesterday and just had a feeling that she was pregnant again. Lordy... Was she pregnant that whole Alaska trip? That makes me tired and nauseous just thinking about it.

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I hope it's not twins, because Joy has had complications with every pregnancy and twins/multiples are always more complicated pregnancies.

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26 minutes ago, Militant Fecundity said:

Literally every newly pregnant woman I have even know has said "Twins run in my family..."
 

Lol. I never said it! Twins don’t run in my family. Big ass babies do. I NEVER wanted twins. I can’t tell you how many 9 and 10lb babies have been born in my family. So yes, we have big baby bumps but it’s just a big ass baby. Not twins. The only twins that ever happened in my family were identical. And they were my great grandma’s first cousins. So not even a close relative. I went to my first ultrasound with my second and the first question was, “so it’s just one baby right?” And when they said yes, I was like, “ok we fine then?” That’s all I wanted to know, lol. It’s healthy and a singleton? Cool. I gotta go, thanks bye. 

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By the time this baby comes, Gideon will be 5 and Evelyn will be 2.5. Those are good spaces. Compared to her mother’s average spacing, it’s great! It’s so much more manageable. 

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1 hour ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

By the time this baby comes, Gideon will be 5 and Evelyn will be 2.5. Those are good spaces. Compared to her mother’s average spacing, it’s great! It’s so much more manageable. 

Joy’s about to turn 25, making the math very easy. If she sticks to her current spacing for another 15 years without multiples, that’s six more kids, for a total of eight, plus however many she has after 40. That’s assuming no more losses and that they don’t decide to stop.

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1 hour ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

By the time this baby comes, Gideon will be 5 and Evelyn will be 2.5. Those are good spaces. Compared to her mother’s average spacing, it’s great! It’s so much more manageable. 

I just wish they’d send their kids to school outside the home, because with each additional child, there is less time for other activities, especially education. Kids deserve better opportunities, especially kids who might have higher or special needs.

2 minutes ago, QuiverFullofBooks said:

Joy’s about to turn 25, making the math very easy. If she sticks to her current spacing for another 15 years without multiples, that’s six more kids, for a total of eight, plus however many she has after 40. That’s assuming no more losses and that they don’t decide to stop.

And 8 is still a huge family and far too many for most couples. Of course 8 is not a ridiculous, absurd or irresponsible number like 13, 15, 19…

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1 hour ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Lol. I never said it! Twins don’t run in my family. Big ass babies do. I NEVER wanted twins. I can’t tell you how many 9 and 10lb babies have been born in my family. So yes, we have big baby bumps but it’s just a big ass baby. Not twins. The only twins that ever happened in my family were identical. And they were my great grandma’s first cousins. So not even a close relative. I went to my first ultrasound with my second and the first question was, “so it’s just one baby right?” And when they said yes, I was like, “ok we fine then?” That’s all I wanted to know, lol. It’s healthy and a singleton? Cool. I gotta go, thanks bye. 

On my mom's side of the family boys with big heads run. No wonder I'm an only child, she didn't want to take a chance. 

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9 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

On my mom's side of the family boys with big heads run. No wonder I'm an only child, she didn't want to take a chance. 

My nephew was so big that he got stuck with shoulder dystocia. He’s 6’10” so he’s always been big. Right from the start. My 9 pounder actually came out way too quickly. He’s taller than average too. We are just big people. Thankfully I have wide hips! But man my hips were killing me the last month of pregnancy. I bet they were spreading because they knew I had a big one coming 😉

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I recall someone predicting Joy’s recent trip to Alaska was going to result in her next pregnancy.

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3 hours ago, Cam said:

I recall someone predicting Joy’s recent trip to Alaska was going to result in her next pregnancy.

She did the test on the trip. The video was actually surprisingly touching. It sounded to me like they may have been trying for at least a couple months, but maybe (at least vaguely) purposefully not getting pregnant before that. There definitely sounded like there was some intention of when to have a baby, and that she really, really wanted a baby at this time. They are very sweet together. I was surprised at how emotional it was. I know she doesn’t go for polished — but usually announcement/test  videos seem much less raw and emotional —. 
 

I don’t think we can tell at all yet what her overall spacing will be - because she lost a baby between her first two. But if she ends up with 8 spread fairly evenly over 20 years — that is a lot of kids, but seems much more manageable than back to back to back babies. Older kids would definitely need to help more than in a smaller family, but I don’t think you’re getting into sister mom territory at all. Especially when they have family nearby to leave the kids with for trips, or just to hang out when they need a break, or are going through a health issue or whatever.  I wouldn’t be surprised if they purposefully stopped at less though, especially if some pregnancies are close together. Same with Jessa, for the same reasons. 

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Eight kids is a lot of kids but I think doable to take care of them properly. But it would be very busy and tiring. I'm exhausted by my two kids. I could never have eight. For Joy, eight probably sounds like a reasonable family size because it's not 19 kids. Let's hope Joy and Austin realize that a smaller family is better for everyone. 

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22 hours ago, Militant Fecundity said:

Literally every newly pregnant woman I have even know has said "Twins run in my family..."
 

Mine was to answer the obgyn … the dinosaur ultrasound machine in the mid 90s showed some kind of shadowy thing behind my son. He couldn’t be sure it wasn’t another baby and asked me to tell him my family history. My Grandfather was a twin, his nieces are twins, another cousin my the other side of my family had twins … and I was absolutely panicking. I told him I only wanted one, I was NOT having twins. He told me it might be a bit late. I quickly got sent for another scan with a clearer machine and I was able to breathe again.

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Eight kids is a big family by normal standards, but if they’re spaced 2-3 years apart, they will never have more than 2 in diapers. The oldest kids would also be in their late teens and mostly self-sufficient by the time the youngest are born. It would be manageable. 

Joy’s pregnancies don’t seem to be easy, though. Her health may force them to stop sooner than they would like. 

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Joy mistakenly referred to her first loss as Jubilee instead of Annabelle. I have never lost a sibling or child, so I'm not trying to judge, but that struck me as odd.

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42 minutes ago, front hugs > duggs said:

Joy mistakenly referred to her first loss as Jubilee instead of Annabelle. I have never lost a sibling or child, so I'm not trying to judge, but that struck me as odd.

She's had the loss of Jubilee in her life much longer than the loss of her own daughter (11 years vs 3), and so had probably been  well programmed to think of Jubilee when thinking about late term loss.  Even though Annabelle is much more directly Joy's OWN loss, she's a more recent loss in Joy's life, so she may just have an automatic mental connection that's still in place that meant that when she was naming a late term loss it came out as Jubilee instead. She caught it as soon as she heard what she'd just said, so I think it was pretty much just an artifact of a long-term connection when thinking of late term loss.

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6 hours ago, metheglyn said:

She's had the loss of Jubilee in her life much longer than the loss of her own daughter (11 years vs 3), and so had probably been  well programmed to think of Jubilee when thinking about late term loss.  Even though Annabelle is much more directly Joy's OWN loss, she's a more recent loss in Joy's life, so she may just have an automatic mental connection that's still in place that meant that when she was naming a late term loss it came out as Jubilee instead. She caught it as soon as she heard what she'd just said, so I think it was pretty much just an artifact of a long-term connection when thinking of late term loss.

Yea, I felt for her in that part. She seemed to be struggling with whether to talk about Annabelle or not, and how. I would imagine there will always be some fear and anxiety mixed in the the excitement of having another baby. 

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In my own family, all people all kids of the same sex and age mixed up names. So if you are a girl with a sister, one of your aunts, uncles, grandparents will calm you your sister’s name at some point. Same for the boys. So her saying Jubilee instead of Annabel isn’t that surprising. It happens. Especially when you aren’t thinking super clearly due to emotion.

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