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15 hours ago, xenobia said:

James changed the name of his Youtube channel to "Duggars gone wild". How wild, you might ask? Well... he bought a bus. I guess that's living la vida loca in Duggar world. 

What happened to the nasty old Duggar bus?

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Wondering if he's going to change the bus into a travelling tiny home?

 

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9 hours ago, Mama Mia said:

I’m going to go with the kid is too young and sheltered to know about “Girls Gone Wild” —- right? Cause Jr Duggars going on a spring break 80’s style drunken party bus with lots of random sex is more than my brain can handle. 

And yet I am so here for it. 

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8 hours ago, Four is Enough said:

Wondering if he's going to change the bus into a travelling tiny home?

 

Hannah and Jer are living in an RV and are expecting a baby. Nathan and Esther Bates are too. It seems like the new fundie thing. Maybe it’s his way to get around officially moving out. While getting some privacy. 

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Someone who watched the video (said it was painfully bad) said that he bought the bus hoping to use it for parts. He apparently already has a non-running bus. However, he found the bus was inoperable, so they towed it back with them. No clue how he plans to swap out parts if the thing doesn't run and why he didn't say no to the bus in the first place. 

Well, he's a Duggar, so brains are in short supply. 🙄

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I just thought of something. If he can actually get that bus running, he could flip it. What he could do is turn it into a party bus. And then sell it to a party bus company. 

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11 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I just thought of something. If he can actually get that bus running, he could flip it. What he could do is turn it into a party bus. And then sell it to a party bus company. 

Sure. Install a pole or two and it would be a hot commodity. 😂

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20 hours ago, AussieKrissy said:

Brain bleach that sounds like a porn channel 

You're more right than you may know....    Google "Girls Gone Wild."  

(Details about Girls Gone Wild below, with possible triggers, so I made the content hidden) 

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Joe Francis started the "Girls Gone Wild" and "Guys Gone Wild" 'franchises' in the late 1990s. He'd take his party bus to college/university party locations--often spring break beach destinations or bars.  He and a film crew and sidekicks mingled with the partiers, persuading intoxicated partiers to strut their stuff or wet t-shirt on camera, initially outside the bus but he and staff would try to get partiers to come onto the bus and show more. He and his crew would cajole and dare them, wearing them down, to bare breasts and booty, and shake and strut, and use sex toys, all on camera. And then Joe Francis compiled the footage with narration and sold 'episodes' of "Girls Gone Wild" and "Guys Gone Wild" in VHS and DVD formats. They're still available on Amazon and eBay. Joe Francis advertised his product on late night TV and mainstream shows such as Entertainment Tonight. Later on, he cajoled college age students, mostly guys, to go to hotel rooms and 'perform' on camera. (Francis has been the object of numerous lawsuits, domestic violence charges, et al. and is supposedly living in Mexico, dodging extradition charges.) Many years ago, my then college age son showed me clips from some of the videos on YouTube. 

All to say--and wonder--if James in calling his channel "Duggars Gone Wild," and aiming to put a party bus on the road, knows the "Gone Wild" video reference. My hunch is that he does. I surmise then that he and/or his compadres have access to the internet or videos beyond 'covenant eyes.'  I'll add too that the interior of the new bus struck me as similar to the interior of Girls Gone Wild party bus that I saw on YouTube.  At least a couple of the lost boys are beyond Jim Bob's jurisdiction....

 

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12 minutes ago, sophrosyne said:

You're more right than you may know....    Google "Girls Gone Wild."  

(Details about Girls Gone Wild below, with possible triggers, so I made the content hidden) 

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Joe Francis started the "Girls Gone Wild" and "Guys Gone Wild" 'franchises' in the late 1990s. He'd take his party bus to college/university party locations--often spring break beach destinations or bars.  He and a film crew and sidekicks mingled with the partiers, persuading intoxicated partiers to strut their stuff or wet t-shirt on camera, initially outside the bus but he and staff would try to get partiers to come onto the bus and show more. He and his crew would cajole and dare them, wearing them down, to bare breasts and booty, and shake and strut, and use sex toys, all on camera. And then Joe Francis compiled the footage with narration and sold 'episodes' of "Girls Gone Wild" and "Guys Gone Wild" in VHS and DVD formats. They're still available on Amazon and eBay. Joe Francis advertised his product on late night TV and mainstream shows such as Entertainment Tonight. Later on, he cajoled college age students, mostly guys, to go to hotel rooms and 'perform' on camera. (Francis has been the object of numerous lawsuits, domestic violence charges, et al. and is supposedly living in Mexico, dodging extradition charges.) Many years ago, my then college age son showed me clips from some of the videos on YouTube. 

All to say--and wonder--if James in calling his channel "Duggars Gone Wild," and aiming to put a party bus on the road, knows the "Gone Wild" video reference. My hunch is that he does. I surmise then that he and/or his compadres have access to the internet or videos beyond 'covenant eyes.'  I'll add too that the interior of the new bus struck me as similar to the interior of Girls Gone Wild party bus that I saw on YouTube.  At least a couple of the lost boys are beyond Jim Bob's jurisdiction....

 

omg that guys was a fucking wanker 

Those people did not deserve to be taken advantage of like that 

 

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On 11/30/2022 at 11:32 AM, snickerz said:

JB has been on a 40 day fast. Sounds real healthy (NOT). 

He must have been even less pleasant to be around.

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I doubt Claire is one of the secretly pregnant ones. She looks exactly like she always does and I just feel like Hilary would have to spill the beans while posting all these other family pictures. 

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54 minutes ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I doubt Claire is one of the secretly pregnant ones. She looks exactly like she always does and I just feel like Hilary would have to spill the beans while posting all these other family pictures. 

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Agreed, I can’t see her mom not wanting to brag about a grandbaby - and I can’t see any reason they would feel the need to keep it secret. She’d be past her first trimester- a bar many women wait through, if they wait at all.  He’s not a prominent Duggar, except for his very, very, very unfortunate two-thumbs up at the trial he’s not made much news. There is no new season to wait for. He had his whole childhood filmed, but wasn’t featured on Counting On and would likely just get a couple short blurbs on entertainment sites/magazines, but that’s it. They can be like any other young working couple who post  pregnancies /births/ kid birthdays on social media without much fuss. 

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7 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

It could be Jessa and Kendra who are secretly pregnant. We know Kendra gets pregnant at the drop of a hat. 

Do you think Kendra's mom is thrilled or jealous? Kendra's going to beat Christina in a hurry.

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By process of elimination it's most likely Jessa with Kendra being 2nd choice, Jed 3rd choice.

Anna - can't be pregnant by Josh - they've had their 1yr anniversary of no sex.

Abbie - gave birth in the summer - even by Duggar standards unlikely to be past 1st trimester and they seem to space babies anyway

Jill -  see Abbie - gave birth in the summer, admits use of contraception

Jesssa - could easily be pregnant - Fearne is 1.5yrs - and she often announces late

Jinger - in the contraceptive group.  Evangeline is over 2yrs so would be reasonable for an average family to go for kid no 3,  but  she has showed a recent whole body photo and there's no way she's heavily pregnant

Kendra - could always be pregnant - but we think she's already contributed to a hidden duggar grandchild in the spring.  Even by Duggar fertility standards being more pregnant than Joy would be impressive. Possible - which is why she's my 2nd choice but worrying.

Lauren - likely had a baby recently - seems to space.  I'll given Lauren and Josiah 1 of the hidden babies but if they had one in spring, they won't be pregnant again. If they didn't one in Spring then they absolutely could be pregnant.

Joy - officially pregnant

Jed and Katey - had baby in May. Could conceivably be pregnant again we don't know their spacing again.  It would put them 10months between babies and announce them as threats to JoKen for the future Duggar fertility crown. 

But would mean the twins (wives) are pregnant together so they should be spamming the internet with this if she's pregnant.

Jer and Hannah - officially preggo

Justin and Claire - going for longest wait between marriage and baby (good for them, hope its their choice).  No way fame MamySpivey wouldn't announce on their behalf if she were preggo.

 

Picking Jessa out of all the options.  Unless someone has had a miscarriage which they are counting to the total, but I don't think they count Annabelle to the total and if Annabelle doesn't count then I can't see anyone else's miscarriage counting to the total.  Annabelle was the furthest along loss anyone has ever had, even more than Jubillee.  If she isn't part of the total, no other losses will be.

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3 hours ago, CaptainFunderpants said:

Do you think Kendra's mom is thrilled or jealous? Kendra's going to beat Christina in a hurry.

Kendra’s mom was so “surprised” when Kendra got pregnant immediately after getting married. Didn’t she say she thought Kendra would have waited a little? That was a bizarre comment coming from her since so many fundies don’t use birth control and women are supposed to be joyfully available always and Kendra and Joe had to go from kissless to penetration in one day after hands off courting. I mean, what was her mother thinking? Did she not give Kendra “the talk” before the wedding? Did she expect married Kendra to remain “pure” somehow? Did she not want to think her daughter was having sex?

So the mother suddenly realizes she’ll be sharing pregnancies with her first born. And it sounds like she’d never thought of it before. Maybe she is jealous. Maybe it was a shock to realize she would be both a mom and a grandma. Maybe she’s adjusted to it. 

Makes me wonder how much she embraces the grandmother role. How do you have time, when you’re raising kids your grandkids’ age?

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2 hours ago, Cam said:

Kendra’s mom was so “surprised” when Kendra got pregnant immediately after getting married. Didn’t she say she thought Kendra would have waited a little? That was a bizarre comment coming from her since so many fundies don’t use birth control and women are supposed to be joyfully available always and Kendra and Joe had to go from kissless to penetration in one day after hands off courting. I mean, what was her mother thinking? Did she not give Kendra “the talk” before the wedding? Did she expect married Kendra to remain “pure” somehow? Did she not want to think her daughter was having sex?

So the mother suddenly realizes she’ll be sharing pregnancies with her first born. And it sounds like she’d never thought of it before. Maybe she is jealous. Maybe it was a shock to realize she would be both a mom and a grandma. Maybe she’s adjusted to it. 

Makes me wonder how much she embraces the grandmother role. How do you have time, when you’re raising kids your grandkids’ age?

I’ve known several families where the mothers were having new babies the same time as their oldest children were having babies.  Not fundies, so usually not a mass of middle kids of varying ages, so that part would be different.  But overall they tend to be very, very involved grandparents- just because their plans and lives already are little kid focused. They are already home in the evening, or going to the park, or picking up diapers. Similarly the older kids/new parents tend to be more involved with their little siblings than most young adults would be. 
These are definitely not fundamentalists, and the new round of babies is usually due to a new partner or birth control failure. 

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I’ve also seen grandmothers who mother their grandchildren. A woman I know was so hyperinvolved with her two granddaughters that they called her mom. When both the mother and grandmother were in the room, the older child said, “Hey, mom..,” and when her grandmother said, “What?”, the girl said, “No, I mean my other mom.” A lot of women are conflicted when they become a grandmother. It’s a patriarchal thing.

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6 minutes ago, Cam said:

I’ve also seen grandmothers who mother their grandchildren. A woman I know was so hyperinvolved with her two granddaughters that they called her mom. When both the mother and grandmother were in the room, the older child said, “Hey, mom..,” and when her grandmother said, “What?”, the girl said, “No, I mean my other mom.” A lot of women are conflicted when they become a grandmother. It’s a patriarchal thing.

Is it patriarchal though? As a mom and grandma I think a lot of it is that you know things that work, and things that didn’t work, and things you wish you’d done differently. I think you also usually have a little more perspective on how incredibly transient both the various challenges and small joys are. And you realize how incredibly stressful and overwhelming parenting can be and want to help your child. Although if you’re doing a lot of the day to day care you’re more likely to respond like a regular stressed out parent instead of indulgent grandparent.  That’s been my experience anyway. The being a grandma as a sign of age can be a little rough at first, for sure!  My parents were still in their 30’s when I had my 1st kid, and I think it was a little hard for them- especially as they both were dating younger partners at the time. But they were still very involved. I was a more average mid 40’s, and married, so it didn’t feel TOO aging. Most of the time lol

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On 12/10/2022 at 10:05 AM, JermajestyDuggar said:

I doubt Claire is one of the secretly pregnant ones. She looks exactly like she always does and I just feel like Hilary would have to spill the beans while posting all these other family pictures. 

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Damn Claire looks like she’s 12 in this picture

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24 minutes ago, BadMurphy said:

Damn Claire looks like she’s 12 in this picture

So does Justin. I hope they've matured in other ways because they sure don't look like a married couple approaching their second anniversary.

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2 hours ago, EmiSue said:

So does Justin. I hope they've matured in other ways because they sure don't look like a married couple approaching their second anniversary.

I keep forgetting that they are actually married and adults. They seem so young and like they should be living at home and finishing high school. 

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On 12/11/2022 at 10:31 PM, imokit said:

 

Picking Jessa out of all the options.  Unless someone has had a miscarriage which they are counting to the total, but I don't think they count Annabelle to the total and if Annabelle doesn't count then I can't see anyone else's miscarriage counting to the total.  Annabelle was the furthest along loss anyone has ever had, even more than Jubillee.  If she isn't part of the total, no other losses will be.

Why are we so sure they’re NOT including Annabelle, especially in a video/conversation with Joy? I would, if it was my granddaughter. Is it just that by Duggar logic miscarriages and stillbirths are the same so to count Annabelle would mean adding a bunch of other pregnancies that didn’t progress to term?

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6 hours ago, Smee said:

Why are we so sure they’re NOT including Annabelle, especially in a video/conversation with Joy? I would, if it was my granddaughter. Is it just that by Duggar logic miscarriages and stillbirths are the same so to count Annabelle would mean adding a bunch of other pregnancies that didn’t progress to term?

They've never included Annabell or any other losses in their counting before, so it seems strange to include her now several years afterward. Even Joy and Austin call this baby number 3 and not number 4, even though Joy is never seen without her Annabell Elise necklace someone made for her shortly after Annabell died. Not making value judgments, just going on past behavior of this family.

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