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31 minutes ago, postscript said:

I’m betting Hannah will announce #2 in the next few months. She and Jer seem very into the idea of birthing for Jesus. 

Yeah. John and Abbie seem to be the odd ones out in the little medicorps circle (as I think Nathan and Esther Bates will also birth for Jesus) in terms of having all the babies at a quick pace. 

 

Hannah announced in late August/early September and Brynley was born on Christmas. I could see her announcing in the fall again. 

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On 5/23/2023 at 11:36 PM, GuineaPigCourtship said:

I love popping into a McDonalds while traveling to read the menu.  I'm sure we'll be adding it to our list of places to eat on occasion when my daughter is of an age to travel since she can be intermittently picky about her food intake.  Sometimes you just want fries, I guess.

I was a single mom and my kid was a great traveler, but the one thing that was a bone of contention was McDonalds. Which he always wanted. I, on the other hand, wanted to sit in the outdoor cafe while men named Jacques or Giovanni plied me with wine and delicacies. I almost always lost, though.

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3 hours ago, CanadianMamam said:

I think Nathan and Esther Bates will also birth for Jesus

 

Agree 100%. I think we will hear from them again soon.

It will be interesting to see how these real housewives of Mediccorps (seriously, this needs to be a reality show like yesterday) gatherings will change as the couples pop out more and more kids. 

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4 minutes ago, postscript said:

Agree 100%. I think we will hear from them again soon.

It will be interesting to see how these real housewives of Mediccorps (seriously, this needs to be a reality show like yesterday) gatherings will change as the couples pop out more and more kids. 

Nathan was in Turkey until mid-March and they announced around 4 months last time, so I am predicting an announcement in July or August. 

Gabby Patton is on #3 and Joy just had #3 and that is so far the most any of them have, so yeah it. Be interesting when they all have 5+ kids. 

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17 minutes ago, CanadianMamam said:

Nathan was in Turkey until mid-March and they announced around 4 months last time, so I am predicting an announcement in July or August. 

Having the Mediccorps menfolk away on missioncation trips may be this crowd's only form of birth control.

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So the Duggars are about to be at 31 grandkids with 11 married kids and the Bates are about to be at 27 grandkids with 11 children married. And yet, the Duggars are pretty evenly split 15 boys to (almost) 16 girls while the Bates are at 18 girls and (almost) 8 boys + Paine #6 who's sex we don't know yet. Even if Paine #6 is a boy it will still be 2 girls for every boy. 

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15 minutes ago, CanadianMamam said:

So the Duggars are about to be at 31 grandkids with 11 married kids and the Bates are about to be at 27 grandkids with 11 children married. And yet, the Duggars are pretty evenly split 15 boys to (almost) 16 girls while the Bates are at 18 girls and (almost) 8 boys + Paine #6 who's sex we don't know yet. Even if Paine #6 is a boy it will still be 2 girls for every boy. 

I have several friends and and 2 SILs from families of only girls, who only have daughters. Out of all of these people, they either have no granddaughters or in the case of one, 2 granddaughters out of 10 grandchildren. The rest only have grandsons. 

The Bates could have a run on boys to even the numbers. Initially the Duggars had more boys, and then there was that run of girls that eventually evened the numbers out (actually the girls out numbered the boys).  This happened in both G2 and G3.

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9 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

I have several friends and and 2 SILs from families of only girls, who only have daughters. Out of all of these people, they either have no granddaughters or in the case of one, 2 granddaughters out of 10 grandchildren. The rest only have grandsons. 

The Bates could have a run on boys to even the numbers. Initially the Duggars had more boys, and then there was that run of girls that eventually evened the numbers out (actually the girls out numbered the boys).  This happened in both G2 and G3.

I have a friend who is one of 3, 2 girls and a boy, and all 5 grandkids are boys.

My youngest is the 9th and last grandchild on my husband's side and the tie-breaker, she is the 5th girl. 

My mom's side there are 12 cousins and it is 6-6 but it was a bunch of girls at once and then a bunch of boys. 

I think it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out with the Duggars/Bates since both families ended up with a 9/10 split (not counting Jubilee) despite large blocks of one sex in a row. 

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I am curious if someone here knows something about the Lim family from australia. Looking online i was only able to find that the father, Peter, was the ATI Australia Director as of 2015, but nothing more recent. You probably have noticed one of the daughters, Esther, featured on James instagram stories for the past 2 weeks.

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On 5/29/2023 at 10:20 AM, llucie said:

 

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So current Duggar grandkid cound would look like:

  1. Mackynzie
  2. Michael 
  3. Marcus 
  4. Israel 
  5. Meredith 
  6. Spurgeon 
  7. Henry 
  8. Samuel 
  9. Mason 
  10. Gideon 
  11. Garrett 
  12. Felicity 
  13. Ivy 
  14. Addison 
  15. Bella
  16. Maryella
  17. Grace
  18. Evelyn
  19. Evangeline
  20. Brooklyn
  21. Fern 
  22. Madyson
  23. Daisy
  24. Truett
  25. Baby boy Duggar (speculated to be named Connor) from Joseph and Kendra.
  26. Frederick
  27. Charlie
  28. Brynley
  29. Baby boy Duggar from Josiah and Lauren.
  30. Gunner
  31. Nora

Whose child is Daisy? 

My first thought was Jessa, because of the plants theme, but I guess I'm wrong. 

Fundamentelist Wiki doesn't list any Daisy. 

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13 minutes ago, flowergirl said:

Whose child is Daisy? 

My first thought was Jessa, because of the plants theme, but I guess I'm wrong. 

Fundamentelist Wiki doesn't list any Daisy. 

Daisy is Lauren and Josiah’s second daughter. She was born once they stopped sharing things about their family publicly, but a still from one of the sibling’s videos showed Daisy listed with Siren and Bella’s names on a label for where to put gifts. 
 

Several posters have figured out that they’ve had a son since then, too, but we don’t know his name yet. 

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2 hours ago, llucie said:

I am curious if someone here knows something about the Lim family from australia. Looking online i was only able to find that the father, Peter, was the ATI Australia Director as of 2015, but nothing more recent. You probably have noticed one of the daughters, Esther, featured on James instagram stories for the past 2 weeks.

James had instagram stories from Australia a couple of weeks ago, so he was there hanging out with the Lim sisters. They are hardcore ATI-people. If one of them is here now, I think it's more than a social call. 

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3 hours ago, CanadianMamam said:

So the Duggars are about to be at 31 grandkids with 11 married kids and the Bates are about to be at 27 grandkids with 11 children married. And yet, the Duggars are pretty evenly split 15 boys to (almost) 16 girls while the Bates are at 18 girls and (almost) 8 boys + Paine #6 who's sex we don't know yet. Even if Paine #6 is a boy it will still be 2 girls for every boy. 

Now you've got me humming Beach Boys tunes... 

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11 minutes ago, xenobia said:

James had instagram stories from Australia a couple of weeks ago, so he was there hanging out with the Lim sisters. They are hardcore ATI-people. If one of them is here now, I think it's more than a social call. 

James was never in Australia, the Lim girls are in the US since weeks ago. People in reddit just asumed he was in Australia because he was with australian people but hours latter she posted stories where you could see they were in Arkansas. Now they are in Texas.

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7 minutes ago, llucie said:

No it is the other way around, James was not in Australia, the Lim girls are in the US.

Possible. James posted photos in early May that was geotagged in Australia. I haven't saved a screenshot, but among other things he was playing soccer there. 

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1 hour ago, xenobia said:

Possible. James posted photos in early May that was geotagged in Australia. I haven't saved a screenshot, but among other things he was playing soccer there. 

I saw the story playing soccer, this one:

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and i am pretty sure they were in Arkansas since Elijah was also there and a few other Arkansas friends but i didnt notice any geotag and you cant really see it in this picture so i dont know, you make me doubt it but what i am sure is that hours latter a few of them shared pictures and videos where they were clearly in Arkansas. And now they are in Texas. 

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I don't think geotagging is concrete proof. You can put your location to where ever you want, I believe. 

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There's this one guy on Instagram, who can find locations of fotos, it's very impressive. Like, he sees random fotos and finds the exact spot where it was taken. 

We could ask him where this foto was taken 😂

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I don't use Instagram much, so just assumed that if a photo was geotagged somewhere it was taken there. I'm happy to learn more about that from those who know more :)

 

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What's the current married boy/girl ratio for the Duggars vs Bates?

I find this sex break down interesting. But it's started me thinking who has more daughters married or sons married.

And does it make a difference in kids # and sex if broken down by kids had by:

Duggar daughters

Duggar sons

And kids born to

Bates Daughters 

Bates sons.

 

Like do Bates daughters have more girls? Do Duggar boys' kids come out even too?

 

Idle interest but do not have the mental capacity to figure it out especially with mystery duggars.

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In terms of married sons vs. daughters, the Duggars and the Bates are exact opposites. The Duggars have 7 married sons and 4 married daughters, while the Bates have 4 married sons and 7 married daughters. All of the following data assumes the two mystery Duggar grandchildren are Joken4 and Siren3, and that both are boys, to satisfy the 15/15 split comment after Gunner's birth. It also includes in utero babies of known sex (Jed2 and Zach5), but not Erin's current pregnancy as she hasn't announced the sex. It also doesn't include miscarriages or stillbirths.

There is one married Duggar without children (Justin). There are two married Bateses without children (Michael and Lawson).

The 7 married Duggar sons have a total of 19 children: 11 girls and 8 boys. The 4 married Duggar daughters have a total of 12 children: 5 girls and 7 boys.

The 4 married Bates sons have a total of 7 children: 4 girls and 3 boys. The 7 married Bates girls have a total of 19 children (plus one on the way of unknown sex): 14 girls and 5 boys.

The most even split between G3 girls vs. boys is among Bates sons, while the most uneven split is among Bates daughters. The Duggars fall in the middle, but their sons have more girls, while their daughters have more boys. 

 

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1 hour ago, WatchingTheTireFireBurn said:

What's the current married boy/girl ratio for the Duggars vs Bates?

I find this sex break down interesting. But it's started me thinking who has more daughters married or sons married.

And does it make a difference in kids # and sex if broken down by kids had by:

Duggar daughters

Duggar sons

And kids born to

Bates Daughters 

Bates sons.

 

Like do Bates daughters have more girls? Do Duggar boys' kids come out even too?

 

Idle interest but do not have the mental capacity to figure it out especially with mystery duggars.

Married Duggar Daughters: Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joy 

Kids: 12 (7 boys, 5 girls)

Married Bates Daughters: Michael, Erin, Alyssa, Tori, Carlin, Josie, Katie 

Kids: 19 + 1 in utero (5 boys, 12 girls and 1 unknown) 

Married Duggar Boys: Josh, JD, Joe, Josiah, Jed, Jer, Justin 

Kids: 18 + 1 in utero (11 girls, 8 boys)

Married Bates Boys: Zach, Lawson, Nathan, Trace 

Kids: 5 + 2 in utero (3 boys, 4 girls) 

The Duggars have more married sons, the sons have more kids while the Bates it is the opposite.

Bates daughters do have more girls. Every Bates daughter had at least one and Erin and Alyssa each have four with only one boy (at least for now, Erin could be carrying boy #2). Of the Duggars, only Josh has that many girls but he also has 3 boys. 

The Bates boys are harder to track, 3 of them got married in the last 18 months and only Zach has more than one kid and he has one of the more even splits at 2-3. 

Jer is currently the only Duggar with only one child, while 3 Bates siblings (Nathan, Katie and Trace) all currently only have 1. 

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Breaking it down further:

4 girls: Josh D, Erin B*, Alyssa B

3 girls: Zach B, 

2 girls: Jessa D, Zach B, Josie B, Jinger D, Tori B, Josiah D, Joe D

1 girl: John D, Jed D, Jer D, Joy D, Nathan B, Carlin B, Katie B

3 boys: Josh D, Jill D

2 boys: Tori B, Zach B, Jessa D, Joe D, Joy D

1 boy: John D, Josiah D, Jed D, Trace B, Erin B*, Alyssa B, Carlin B

*Erin is currently pregnant, sex unknown 

So far the most anyone has had is 4 girls. Alyssa and Erin both had 4 girls in a row, for the current longest streaks. 

 

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And last one: 

7 kids: Josh D

6 kids: Erin B*

5 kids: Zach B*, Alyssa B

4 kids: Jessa D, Joe D, Tori B

3 kids: Jill D, Josiah D, Joy D

2 kids: John D, Jinger D, Jed D*, Carlin B, Josie B

1 kid: Jer D, Nathan B, Trace B*, Katie B

0 kids: Justin D, Michael B, Lawson B

*Currently expecting 

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On 6/1/2023 at 3:48 AM, xenobia said:

James had instagram stories from Australia a couple of weeks ago, so he was there hanging out with the Lim sisters. They are hardcore ATI-people. If one of them is here now, I think it's more than a social call. 

Ah fuck I don’t want him in Australia anymore than he has to be. Don’t marry an Aussie. Piss off. Hell take her back there but will still visit here. At least it’s not my state. 

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