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10 minutes ago, Bastet said:

  This is a point Jordan and McKay make. 

I need to listen to that episode then. Because it is a distinct difference that we don’t encounter with other groups. It’s also interesting because most Mormons in these positions are white men and thus pass as mainstream. You don’t know they are practicing Mormon in a geographic area with relatively few Mormon…until you know.

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18 minutes ago, noseybutt said:

I need to listen to that episode then. Because it is a distinct difference that we don’t encounter with other groups. It’s also interesting because most Mormons in these positions are white men and thus pass as mainstream. You don’t know they are practicing Mormon in a geographic area with relatively few Mormon…until you know.

They have a YouTube channel too, and perhaps people will school them with their comments. That could go one of two ways—either they do more research and offer more analysis, or they stick to Mormon turf, their comfort zone. 

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19 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I agree with comparing fundamentalist groups. I bet we could find lots of similarities between FLDS, Christian Fundies, Ultra Orthodox Jews, and fundamentalist Muslims. 

Virulent patriarchy is the common denominator.

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23 minutes ago, gustava said:

Virulent patriarchy is the common denominator.

Yes. Men have been in charge for centuries. That has changed a lot in the last one hundred years. Women have many more rights, privileges, and freedoms. Men will use any religion to take those things away from women again. And convince women it’s what their god wants. 

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On 9/21/2022 at 11:41 AM, Jackie3 said:

I thought she tried therapy briefly and decided it wasn't for her.

However, she is wealthy, educated, white and has a loving family. So she has many other privileges that would make it easier for her to recover.

What I’ve heard from her* is she didn’t have therapy as a kid due to her choice. Her parents went to therapy to learn how to be supportive of her. As an adult she went to therapy to deal with her parents divorcing.

*I heard this in interviews, I do not personally know Elizabeth Smart

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On 9/25/2022 at 9:02 AM, Father Son Holy Goat said:

What I’ve heard from her* is she didn’t have therapy as a kid due to her choice. Her parents went to therapy to learn how to be supportive of her. As an adult she went to therapy to deal with her parents divorcing.

*I heard this in interviews, I do not personally know Elizabeth Smart

Lordy, that would be hard as parent (the whole situation is god awful hard) but specifically in reference to her not wanting therapy. As a parent my first instinct would be to 'make' her get therapy, for so many reasons. Firstly to seem to be proactive in the healing process and secondly to not feel so alone in helping her. It would be so hard to sit back and allow this child to make her own choices in something I would view as a monumental need. But as a parent, after all she had been through I would also respect the fact that she should be allowed to decide her treatment. I applaud the parents for making the choice to go to therapy to learn to help her.  My Mother's heart breaks for the little girl she was and my Woman's heart roars for the admirable women she has become!

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The Duggars hosted a Fall festival at the TTH. Jed&Katey posted a video. There were lots of Duggar adjacent people there as well, not just Duggars. 

I could spot JB, Jana, John&Abbie with kids, some of the M-kids, Josiah&Lauren with kids, Jed&Katey, Jer&Hannah, Jason + a bunch of the younger Duggar kids still living at home. I also think that I saw Anna (with Madyson). 

Not Duggars but known to me: The whole Swanson family, Nathan Bates, Laura DeMasie and some other people I don't remember right now. 

 

 

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40 minutes ago, JMO said:

Nathan Bates? Interesting.  I guess Esther and baby were there too.

They’ve become honorary Duggars since they live in AR now. 

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12 hours ago, xenobia said:

The Duggars hosted a Fall festival at the TTH. Jed&Katey posted a video. There were lots of Duggar adjacent people there as well, not just Duggars. 

I could spot JB, Jana, John&Abbie with kids, some of the M-kids, Josiah&Lauren with kids, Jed&Katey, Jer&Hannah, Jason + a bunch of the younger Duggar kids still living at home. I also think that I saw Anna (with Madyson). 

Not Duggars but known to me: The whole Swanson family, Nathan Bates, Laura DeMasie and some other people I don't remember right now. 

 

 

Did you mean the Caldwell family? I didn't see any Swansons. 

Also, no sign of Jessa and family. They used to participate in these events.

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40 minutes ago, justmy2cents said:

Did you mean the Caldwell family? I didn't see any Swansons. 

Also, no sign of Jessa and family. They used to participate in these events.

I also noticed that the Seewalds weren't there. 

But I thought I saw Dwain Swanson with a kid or two. I need to check that again. I also thought I heard Jer say that the Swansons won third price in the pie contest, but when I went back and watched that segment again, the video seems edited. They don't mention who took third price. I was sure that they said it was the Swansons. Can you edit a video that's already been uploaded? 

I don't think the Caldwell family was there, but I think Joe, Kendra and the kids showed up. I think this is Kendra with a baby. (Edit: Perhaps that's her mother in front of her? Perhaps the Caldwells and Duggars are back on speaking terms?)

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1 hour ago, xenobia said:

I don't think the Caldwell family was there, but I think Joe, Kendra and the kids showed up. I think this is Kendra with a baby. (Edit: Perhaps that's her mother in front of her? Perhaps the Caldwells and Duggars are back on speaking terms?)

Yes, that's Christina Caldwell sitting in front of Kendra and I think the 2 boys to Kenra's right are her brothers. I thought the Caldwells got 3rd prize. I'll have to listen again.

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A Reddit user just posted a lot of photos (mostly from Facebook) that show Jason with Claire Langdon. Claire just graduated from Crown College, where she worked as a tutor for the Bates family in between classes. She now teaches second grade; presumably at a Christian school. Justin follows her on Instagram.

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13 minutes ago, indianabones said:

A Reddit user just posted a lot of photos (mostly from Facebook) that show Jason with Claire Langdon. Claire just graduated from Crown College, where she worked as a tutor for the Bates family in between classes. She now teaches second grade; presumably at a Christian school. Justin follows her on Instagram.

Not too surprising. The Langdon sisters (Emma and Claire) have been spotted hanging out with the Duggars this year. 

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Objection, your honor! I can hardly tell who's who of the Lost boys, and it wouldn't make things easier if two of them married a  Claire (Dugggar)! 

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4 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Not too surprising. The Langdon sisters (Emma and Claire) have been spotted hanging out with the Duggars this year. 

who was the one that Kelly Jo hid the ring finger off?

2 hours ago, xenobia said:

Objection, your honor! I can hardly tell who's who of the Lost boys, and it wouldn't make things easier if two of them married a  Claire (Dugggar)! 

at least justin is not a clone as far as appearances go..... 

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7 hours ago, indianabones said:

Justin follows her on Instagram.

Jason, not Justin. 🤦‍♀️

In my defense, the Duggar sons are basically all the same...

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9 hours ago, AussieKrissy said:

who was the one that Kelly Jo hid the ring finger off?

at least justin is not a clone as far as appearances go..... 

That was Claire. 

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7 hours ago, indianabones said:

Jason, not Justin. 🤦‍♀️

In my defense, the Duggar sons are basically all the same...

There’s a Jason?

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Jason, James, and Justin were born within 17 months of each other (following a break of 15 months after the boy twins) so they’re very much a unit. That’s how I think of them: JasonJamesJustin.

ETA: Looking this up, I noted that except for Jana, and not counting Claire’s possible pregnancy, right now all of the Duggar kids born before 2000 are parents, and none of the post-millennial kids are.

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9 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

That was Claire. 

It was but the weird thing is that if you go to the Bates Instagram, they posted the same pics earlier this year from Claire’s graduation from Crown and in none of those pics is she wearing a ring. So either she was engaged then, didn’t wear her ring for any pics that were posted and the pic Kelly picked to post a couple days ago happened to be one where she was so she covered it, or she wasn’t engaged and they’re just drumming up speculation with hiding the finger. 

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I just think Kelly accidentally tried to add a sticker or text to her post and that popped up. I bet she didn't even notice. I don't think it has any significance. 

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