Jinjer 58: Going for the DMIN

[livinginthelight]

On 9/6/2022 at 7:31 PM, marmalade said:

This has turned out to be one of their more popular videos. 31k views in 12 hours. Not much in the scheme of YouTube overall, but good numbers for Jinjer.

Does anyone know what kind of money 31K views translates to?

[Father Son Holy Goat]

23 hours ago, livinginthelight said:

Does anyone know what kind of money 31K views translates to?

I would think it would depend on how much her ads paid per veiw

[Paperplate]

The video is beyond cringe. "Condensed milk, evaporated milk ... whatever you wanna call it" It's not the same!!

It's sad enough if you don't know the difference between evaporated milk and condensed milk but if you very, very obviously used the wrong product in a recipe video you want to put on the internet for tens of thousands of people to watch you do a reshoot! At the end of the video when Jinger tastes it she doesn't even manage to play off how bad it must have been with all that sugar.

And as always Jinger very much does not shine in front of the camera. She's awkward and boring, rehashing the same old anecdote everyone's already heard a million times.

But the fans are eating it up, commenting what a great presenter she is and how yummy it looks.

 

[nellautumngirl]

You know what I just noticed? For all his douchbaggery, Jeremy never talks about his work playing football. I remember him hyping Felicity up as a football player (so stupid like everything he does) but he never really talks about his career. The only thing that's interesting about him. And if they want to make money, they need to show the kids. Not saying it is right, but it almost seems like they don't have kids on social media. That and Jinger's past are the only things interesting about them, and they don't realize it.

[backyard sylph]

I didn't watch the video and have never eaten this food, so I don't know how much viscosity it's meant to have. But I do know that when you bake desserts with condensed milk, some of it rises to the top and caramelizes a bit, so I'm imagining that happening to the tater tots, and as well, it would be much thicker to cut into.

I am guessing she knew the correct ingredient but didn't actually know what condensed milk is, and decided condensed meant same as evaporated since that's what she had there in front of her. 

Julia Child used to be really good at bluffing her way through mistakes, just carrying on merrily. That was because there was no template when she was making her early shows; she became the template. But she'd have fired the producer who put sugary syrupy thing in front of her instead of what she actually needed for a savory dish. 

[SassyPants]

5 hours ago, Paperplate said:

The video is beyond cringe. "Condensed milk, evaporated milk ... whatever you wanna call it" It's not the same!!

It's sad enough if you don't know the difference between evaporated milk and condensed milk but if you very, very obviously used the wrong product in a recipe video you want to put on the internet for tens of thousands of people to watch you do a reshoot! At the end of the video when Jinger tastes it she doesn't even manage to play off how bad it must have been with all that sugar.

And as always Jinger very much does not shine in front of the camera. She's awkward and boring, rehashing the same old anecdote everyone's already heard a million times.

But the fans are eating it up, commenting what a great presenter she is and how yummy it looks.

 

I didn’t watch the video but didn’t she actually say that? Did she put SCM in the TTC? 

Cooking…does any Duggar actually know how to cook? 
Another fail for the Vuolo$

[BlackberryGirl]

A traditional New Year’s Eve supper in my family is oyster stew. We make it with oysters, evaporated milk and lots of butter. One year it fell to my BIL to make the oyster stew, which he did. Smelled great, looked great….then OMG he’d made it with sweetened condensed milk! 30 years later when BBB is grocery shopping with me he will spot the condensed milk and ask, “oyster stew?”

[WatchingTheTireFireBurn]

6 hours ago, nellautumngirl said:

You know what I just noticed? For all his douchbaggery, Jeremy never talks about his work playing football. I remember him hyping Felicity up as a football player (so stupid like everything he does) but he never really talks about his career. The only thing that's interesting about him. And if they want to make money, they need to show the kids. Not saying it is right, but it almost seems like they don't have kids on social media. That and Jinger's past are the only things interesting about them, and they don't realize it.

Yeah I don't get this. You need *something* to talk about. Based on the video it seems like "jinger's kitchen" is going to generate more cooking content but she seems totally uninterested in cooking. I remember when they got the coffee roaster she actually showed some mild excitement. 

But her "cooking show" was so unenthusiastic and pointless that it was almost a parody.

I'm glad she's not monetizing her kids but I'm confused why they think they can still sort of present themselves as welcome to my home style vloggers.

[SassyPants]

This is why I respect Dillard for finding a way to support his family using his knowledge, and not just continue to rely 100% on the grift. Vuolo could be doing the exact same thing. I guess time will tell. Will he graduate from the PhD program and get a family supporting job, or will they continue to shill and fail? Yes, all the Bateses and Duggars have questionable beliefs, but at least the Bateses, for the most part, do not think they are too good to work. Some how JB instilled in his quiver that work is a dirty, 4-letter word and that they are all above it.

[Coconut Flan]

Carlin may be the Bates grifter of this generation.

[Paperplate]

4 hours ago, SassyPants said:

I didn’t watch the video but didn’t she actually say that? Did she put SCM in the TTC? 

Cooking…does any Duggar actually know how to cook? 
Another fail for the Vuolo$

Yes, she used sweetened condensed milk and clearly thought condensed milk and evaporated milk are different terms referring to the same food.

It's an understandable mistake to make when shopping but once you see the stuff you should notice something is off. Jinger apparently didn't or maybe she did and just didn't care. The viewers apparently didn't notice or care either so she's in sync with her target demographic.

[JDuggs]

26 minutes ago, Paperplate said:

Yes, she used sweetened condensed milk and clearly thought condensed milk and evaporated milk are different terms referring to the same food.

It's an understandable mistake to make when shopping but once you see the stuff you should notice something is off. Jinger apparently didn't or maybe she did and just didn't care. The viewers apparently didn't notice or care either so she's in sync with her target demographic.

One of the commenters actually said that it was good with the condensed millk, like Jinger didn’t make a mistake but purposely used condensed milk. Some people will defend whatever the Duggars do or say.

Edited September 10, 2022 by JDuggs
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[WatchingTheTireFireBurn]

I mean...is anybody actually going to follow her cooking lesson and make that?? I think most people are watching it just to hear anything she might say about the duggars

28 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

This is why I respect Dillard for finding a way to support his family using his knowledge, and not just continue to rely 100% on the grift. Vuolo could be doing the exact same thing. I guess time will tell. Will he graduate from the PhD program and get a family supporting job, or will they continue to shill and fail? Yes, all the Bateses and Duggars have questionable beliefs, but at least the Bateses, for the most part, do not think they are too good to work. Some how JB instilled in his quiver that work is a dirty, 4-letter word and that they are all above it.

I think Jeremy has shown his true colors....anything to avoid work!

I dont like Derrick...but he works now and has worked in the past.

Did Jeremy ever "work" consistently?  Seems like his soccer "career" was very short and mostly on the bench.

[SassyPants]

I know the bar is low when we default to “well, so and so works…” However I will applaud them when they do work to support themselves and their families. For too many years we have heard (and watched for some) these people talk about their morals, values and faith, while degrading others’ beliefs, education and careers. Well to that I say , BS- Jesus never actively or vocally supported lazy grifters or the willfully ignorant. Best I can recall the God Lord helps those who help themselves and look out for others! 

[Bluebirdbluebell]

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49 minutes ago, SassyPants said:

I know the bar is low when we default to “well, so and so works…” However I will applaud them when they do work to support themselves and their families. For too many years we have heard (and watched for some) these people talk about their morals, values and faith, while degrading others’ beliefs, education and careers. Well to that I say , BS- Jesus never actively or vocally supported lazy grifters or the willfully ignorant. Best I can recall the God Lord helps those who help themselves and look out for others! 

My memory is that the disciples had jobs, but some of them quit their jobs to follow Jesus. I could be wrong though. I also don't remember Jesus complaining about lazy people.

Also "God helps those who help themselves" is an old proverb, but it's not actually from the bible. There are bible passages that come close, but those verses are found in Paul's writings. I'm basing this on this Wikipedia article about the proverb. (link) 

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 Despite not appearing in the Bible, the phrase topped a poll of the most widely known Bible verses.[22][23] Five percent of American teenagers said they believed that it was the central message of the Bible.[24]

Barna see this as evidence of Americans' growing unfamiliarity with the Bible and believes that it reflects a shift to values conflicting with the doctrine of Grace in Christianity and "suggests a spiritual self-reliance inconsistent with Christianity".[25] Christian minister Erwin Lutzer argues there is some support for this saying in the Bible (2 Thessalonians 3:10, James 4:8); however, much more often God helps those who cannot help themselves, which is what grace is about (the parable of the Pharisee and the Publican, Ephesians 2:4–5, Romans 4:4–5)

 

Edited September 10, 2022 by Bluebirdbluebell

[Maggie Mae]

16 hours ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

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My memory is that the disciples had jobs, but some of them quit their jobs to follow Jesus. I could be wrong though. I also don't remember Jesus complaining about lazy people.

I know that the fishermen left their nets, boats, and father to follow Jesus. 

Jesus also had a parable about investing - a farmer gave his sons or servents some money (called talents) and one saved it. That one was the one that was condemned and called lazy, as he should have gotten interest on the money instead of hoarding it. Idk, seems risky. 

There's a ton of letters from Paul to various people condemning laziness. And Proverbs, of course. But Jesus himself? Not entirely sure how he fed himself tbh 

 

[neuroticcat]

I don't think the ancient near east had our concept of "laziness" - that came more from the Protestant Work Ethic which was the sort of "idle hands are the devil's playground" concept. It's near impossible and silly to try and make our post-capitalism ideas of work/leisure/laziness/productivity fit on a culture from centuries ago. Most people throughout history were more concerned with their daily needs (daily bread, even - haha) than working hard to not be lazy. They had to work hard simply to survive. Buckle up for a summary, because I really don't like it when people conflate American Christian proverbial teaching as though it was somehow from the biblical world.

The book of Proverbs offer insights - like, if you don't get out of bed, you won't eat - more in line with the cautions of the fable of the grasshopper and the ants. But the economic system of the biblical world wasn't at all a pull yourself up by your bootstraps and work hard economy. According to Old Testament law, there was to be a year of Jubilee, when land that was sold was returned to the original families and people who had been indentured were freed. Loans weren't supposed to have interest. The whole community was supposed to contributed tithes/offerings that would care for the religious system (which also provided for their legal system) and for the poor/needy. There were required feasts lasting for days so that the whole community could celebrate, a required day of Sabbath rest. It wasn't captialism and it wasn't socialism or any idea of work hard/play hard. In theory, this would be a pretty great system for a small group of people that shared the same values. In reality, the people never did it and almost all of the prophetic books talk about judgment because they were constantly exploiting each other economically and not following these practices that would have made for a more just society.

So you have that backdrop for Jesus' time as well as the political and ecomomic realities of the Roman empire. Jesus actually talks a lot about money. His enemies try and trap him b/c of his association with tax collectors (who were despised b/c they exploited their own people for the Roman oppressors) and with his association with the poor/outcasts/sinners who were the rejected classes by the religious elite. Jesus had a trade - he was a carpenter - and yet when he started his ministry he became an itinerant rabbi. The text at one point tells us that wealthy women helped finance it, which I find really fascinating, but he wasn't begging or soliciting money. There was also a culture of hospitality, especially toward rabbis/teachers. So when his fisherman disciples left their trade (which they went back to after his crucifixion) they weren't being lazy - they were joining a movement. 

Also, as has always been the case, poverty was a trap. If you were a day laborer who got injured, a blind or sick person, you were out of luck. It wasn't like: go, get a job poor person!

As an aside, the parable of the talents isn't about making money. The servant isn't corrected b/c of his laziness but b/c he was so certain his master was cruel and horrible and so he tried to deceive him. It's always interesting to me to hear that one preached, as though we should be making more money or something. Jesus DOES have something to say about a man who works super hard to save up lots for himself so his future is secure. He dies the next night and what good is all his hoarding? So I think, whatever we can surmise about what Christians are supposed to be doing with what they make, we can safely say it's not hoarding it up for themselves.

Anyway, Paul was a tentmaker and most of the apostles were bivocational while they were traveling around telling people about Jesus. Paul does talk about laziness in his letters to the church at Thessalonica, mainly b/c the people there were so certain that Jesus was about to return that they had all stopped working and it was not working out well for them.

The Protestant Reformers were big on teaching the dignity of family life and non-religious vocations. One result of this was that people got to work. They worked hard and then had excess. The Protestant Work Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism is a really eye-opening read on this, because it's become such an ingrained part of American culture that it's hard for us to identify. 

As far as the Duggars/Bates go, I mean, it's working out for them. Their grifting is working. I would not sell my privacy and my children's privacy, but I can't fault them for doing it. If people want to pay them their attention to watch the vapid cooking video, youtube will reward it, the same way it reward my kids who watch nonsensical minecraft play throughs. 

At least this generation of Duggarlings will not be so hungry they sneak food to the bathroom to eat it. 

Edited September 11, 2022 by neuroticcat
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[Scrabblemaster]

I think if she had been honest about her mistake when she tasted it and realized something was off, did some googleing, realized what went wrong and then laughed about it, the video could have been better. You know some sort of self-irony helps when you fucked up something, at least it helps me. Hey, she could have easily used her mistake as thumbnail on her Youtube video: "I made tater-tot-casserole and ruined my family's famous dish. Totally!" But with her semi-professional faking "everything is fine" attitude her video is just not interesting enough to make her special. Maybe the dish was still eatable and just tasted too sweet and not ruined, but their channel could need some exaggeration if they want to get more views. It's an attempt to shine like gold but in reality it looks  beige.  

[Flossie]

I'm a big fan of the Youtube channel "Glen & Friends".  Glen usually drops two or three videos a week, but my favorite is Sunday's "Old Cookbook" show.  He has hundreds of old cookbooks, and sometimes it's really hard to figure them out.  Unfamiliar ingredients, no standard measurments of ingredients or baking temperatures, all play a part.  So he often has to do a lot of research just to try to give the recipe a good try.

Anyway, when things come out right, you know it.  When the food doesn't turn out he admits it.  If he thinks he knows why, he'll tell you.

Glen's wife joins him at the end to taste test.  Sometimes one will like the food and the other doesn't, and they both explain what they like and dislike.  It's a nice watch.

[Knight of Ni]

@neuroticcat How does this compare to the Jewish kibbutz? I read a book called "One More River" about a young girl whose family moves from Canada to Israel to live in a kibbutz and found it very interesting.

[neuroticcat]

2 hours ago, Knight of Ni said:

@neuroticcat How does this compare to the Jewish kibbutz? I read a book called "One More River" about a young girl whose family moves from Canada to Israel to live in a kibbutz and found it very interesting.

That's a great question. I don't know!

I did a quick google and the pages I found explaining the history of the kibbutz movements seem to indicate that some maybe included religious reasons and others not as much? But I imagine the original religious values/principles have historically influenced the culture to value social justice.

Maybe someone here on FJ does, though, and I'd be curious to learn more!

 

Edited September 12, 2022 by neuroticcat

[noseybutt]

On 9/11/2022 at 8:14 AM, Maggie Mae said:

I know that the fishermen left their nets, boats, and father to follow Jesus. 

Jesus also had a parable about investing - a farmer gave his sons or servents some money (called talents) and one saved it. That one was the one that was condemned and called lazy, as he should have gotten interest on the money instead of hoarding it. Idk, seems risky. 

There's a ton of letters from Paul to various people condemning laziness. And Proverbs, of course. But Jesus himself? Not entirely sure how he fed himself tbh 

 

The rich women supported him.

[CarrotCake]

On 9/10/2022 at 10:36 PM, Coconut Flan said:

Carlin may be the Bates grifter of this generation.

I think she actually works pretty hard for the boutique. 

[Bad Wolf]

When mum was baking, a treat was a spoonful of condensed milk. How Jinger could  confuse it with evaporated, I will never know.

[AussieKrissy]

On 9/12/2022 at 9:11 PM, Flossie said:

I'm a big fan of the Youtube channel "Glen & Friends".  Glen usually drops two or three videos a week, but my favorite is Sunday's "Old Cookbook" show.  He has hundreds of old cookbooks, and sometimes it's really hard to figure them out.  Unfamiliar ingredients, no standard measurments of ingredients or baking temperatures, all play a part.  So he often has to do a lot of research just to try to give the recipe a good try.

Anyway, when things come out right, you know it.  When the food doesn't turn out he admits it.  If he thinks he knows why, he'll tell you.

Glen's wife joins him at the end to taste test.  Sometimes one will like the food and the other doesn't, and they both explain what they like and dislike.  It's a nice watch.

I stumbled upon him too 

Glad to know someone else with similar youtube taste to me lol

He is awesome