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29 minutes ago, Xan said:

There's a song called "Getting used to the dark?"  

I also wondered about this song.  I never heard of it before. Unfortunately, I looked it up.  It could be renamed "Gary's Being Like the Heathens Complaint Song"

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"Christian's lives are wrecked by sin
and we blame it on the world we're in
we say there's nothing we can do
instead of being a shining light
we're just doing right on our own eyes
as Christians we're not doing our part
we're just, getting used to the dark."

Chorus
"We're getting used to the dark
we're getting used to the dark
we're not praying to change any hearts
we're just getting used to the dark."

V2
"Sin's all around us yet we don't think
this world is really as bad as it seems
we just close our eyes to what's going on,
we're not burdened for the sinner man,
won't give our brother a helping hand
it's time we show this world a little spark instead of,
getting used to the dark."

(chorus)

Here's a recording from the group that made it um, famous, and wrote it.  It has a little bit of a a BEAT and seems rather, CONTEMPORARY.   The lead, Peg Mckamey Bean, said it was a #1 hit in  1987; she doesn't say where it was a hit. She was inducted into the Southern Gospel Music Hall of Fame in 2016. Gary, what are you listening to? No drums or wicked dancing though, so that must make it okay. 

Getting Used to the Dark  Also, Jill would want those dresses.

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16 minutes ago, Joyster said:

Also, Jill would want those dresses.

Wow.

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I'm continuing to find the comments under Gary's dress code post amusing.  The one about wearing a tie so others won't go to Hell was taken down.  Somebody else commented:

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I'm sure Rk is talking about men, but does he not realize that fundie girls in huge families almost everywhere seem to spend their lives in flip flops?  

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Huh IDK, it seems to me that worldly people quite often like wearing dress shirts and other good clothes... so maybe if you don't want to blend in with the world you should wear something ratty and outrageous to church.

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51 minutes ago, AmazonGrace said:

Huh IDK, it seems to me that worldly people quite often like wearing dress shirts and other good clothes... so maybe if you don't want to blend in with the world you should wear something ratty and outrageous to church.

The Rods' dressing style in a nutshell

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5 hours ago, Xan said:

I do like that he admits that he's peculiar.  So is Gary.  What's next?  Are they going to start insisting that "stupid" is a positive attribute?

Blame the KJV translation for that one. 1 Peter 2:9:

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But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

 

 

 

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One of the comments under Gary's picture of his food made me check the edit history:

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And, sure enough, the original was:

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22 hours ago, Joyster said:

I also wondered about this song.  I never heard of it before. Unfortunately, I looked it up.  It could be renamed "Gary's Being Like the Heathens Complaint Song"

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V1
"Christian's lives are wrecked by sin
and we blame it on the world we're in
we say there's nothing we can do
instead of being a shining light
we're just doing right on our own eyes
as Christians we're not doing our part
we're just, getting used to the dark."

Chorus
"We're getting used to the dark
we're getting used to the dark
we're not praying to change any hearts
we're just getting used to the dark."

V2
"Sin's all around us yet we don't think
this world is really as bad as it seems
we just close our eyes to what's going on,
we're not burdened for the sinner man,
won't give our brother a helping hand
it's time we show this world a little spark instead of,
getting used to the dark."

(chorus)

Here's a recording from the group that made it um, famous, and wrote it.  It has a little bit of a a BEAT and seems rather, CONTEMPORARY.   The lead, Peg Mckamey Bean, said it was a #1 hit in  1987; she doesn't say where it was a hit. She was inducted into the Southern Gospel Music Hall of Fame in 2016. Gary, what are you listening to? No drums or wicked dancing though, so that must make it okay. 

It's okay, there's no "beat 'n' the bump 'n' the bam" 

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 Also, Jill would want those dresses.

She  could rock that mullet too.

22 hours ago, AmazonGrace said:

Huh IDK, it seems to me that worldly people quite often like wearing dress shirts and other good clothes... so maybe if you don't want to blend in with the world you should wear something ratty and outrageous to church.

Or be like Jill's children and wear the fanciest, but also rattiest and ill-fitting clothes the thrift store has in stock.

17 hours ago, thoughtful said:

Blame the KJV translation for that one. 1 Peter 2:9:

We drank Old Peculier for lunch the day we got married. And on anniversaries for years after until we couldn't find it in stores anymore.

 

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And, no they didn't misspell "peculiar". From wikipedia:

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A Peculier is an ecclesiastical district, parish, chapel or church outside the jurisdiction of the bishop of the diocese in which it is situated. A Royal Peculier, an area including one or more places of worship under the jurisdiction of the British monarchy.

 

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It's Sunday.  It should be no surprise where Gary thinks you should be.  All you have to do is wake up. If you love Gary, you will keep his commandments.  Okay, I know he was talking about God's commandments, but that's not what he wrote.  He's at Fellowship Baptist in Bedford, KY today.

Also, I love how the guy in the comments tells Gary he's at church but is looking at his phone. 

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I always find the "Its Sunday, where should you be?" argument of Gary's interesting.  According to Gary, I should be in church, but in healthcare, we work 24/7/365.  I asked my pastor about this, out of curiosity.  He told me that I am also doing the Lord's work by providing for my family and caring for others, as Christ commanded. And yes, church is important, but so is caring for those who need it. So, if this is a problem with Bro Gary, he shouldn't patronize any business or organization that is open on Sundays. Wouldn't going out to eat after church mean he is approving someone's "sinful actions"?

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Ah, the McKameys! I saw them in person many times back in the 90s-early 2000s. Peg was known for getting so excited “in the spirit” that she’d kick off at least one shoe while singing “God On The Mountain.” The first time I thought it was wonderful, then after seeing them multiple times I realized it was always at the same point in the song, almost like it was choreographed…then I noticed that other Southern Gospel artists had similar tricks designed to get the crowd on their feet and in tears…then the schtick got old.

So we know Gary listens to Southern Gospel, which is country music with lyrics about Jesus instead of adultery and drinking. 
Gary, you’re a hypocrite.

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I couldn’t find a video of her losing her shoes singing god on the Mountain, but multiples of it happening in “Under His Feet,” a song I’d forgotten, so maybe I’m remembering wrong. But in revisiting my friends the McKameys, I watched several videos and yes, their act was almost always the same. 
I kind of miss innocent, gullible me from way back then. But I was incredibly sad, lonely, and unfulfilled, and the only emotional highs I got were at church services or gospel signings. 

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Something set Gary off on his conspiracy gibberish. He's throwing a toddler tantrum and "won't be doing any mandates".  He's in Kentucky, and as far as I know, there aren't any mandates, and he's free to gallivant around doing what he does.

Bro. Gary, it's the Lord's day, and you got to go to church.  Be happy.  Nobody's making a new virus to take away your "Freedoms."

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Becky posted a story of fundie wisdom stupidity today:

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Seriously, Becky?  I get the analogy about continuing in tough times and being thankful for the good times, but comparing it to driving in blind obedience during a storm?  That's just dumb.  And to continue with her analogy, maybe God is sending a storm because he wants you to pull over and reevaluate what you are doing.  The sun is eventually going to come out even on the side of the road.

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1 hour ago, Joyster said:

Seriously, Becky? 

Well, you have reasoning skills.  Becky, Gary, and the rest of our pet fundies don't.  To her, it makes perfect sense to keep driving in unsuitable conditions where you might die because ... Jesus.  As long as you have faith, you don't have to think about anything else.  You don't have to evaluate danger.  That's why Gary (and Tim Rodrigues) think it's okay to drive all night even when you haven't had much sleep the night before.  

Sometimes I wonder how our country got into the mess we're in now with the threat of a theocracy and then I look at our fundies and it all becomes clear.  The message is just trust and obey and let some strong man or deity handle the rest of it.  No need to think at all.

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21 hours ago, Joyster said:

Something set Gary off on his conspiracy gibberish. He's throwing a toddler tantrum and "won't be doing any mandates".  He's in Kentucky, and as far as I know, there aren't any mandates, and he's free to gallivant around doing what he does.

Bro. Gary, it's the Lord's day, and you got to go to church.  Be happy.  Nobody's making a new virus to take away your "Freedoms."

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We’ll, I’m hopeful that all the trigger ban states are super supportive of vaccine mandates now, right? We can mandate forced pregnancy to protect a life, mandating a simple poke to protect another life is no biggie… right? Right???

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2 hours ago, Joyster said:

Becky posted a story of fundie wisdom stupidity today:

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Seriously, Becky?  I get the analogy about continuing in tough times and being thankful for the good times, but comparing it to driving in blind obedience during a storm?  That's just dumb.  And to continue with her analogy, maybe God is sending a storm because he wants you to pull over and reevaluate what you are doing.  The sun is eventually going to come out even on the side of the road.

I'm pretty sure the young woman's father is God in this analogy. 

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The cars began to edge?

That is meaningless.

This one isn't even by Gary (or Becky, for that matter), and yet I am left wondering, yet again, what the original writer even meant. Did the cars hydroplane? Move over to the side of the road? Cut the grass near a walkway, fence or house (hey, that's what the verb "edge" calls to my mind)?

Was it a misheard speech-to-text? Did the cars begin to itch? To hedge their bets? To make a pledge? To dredge something up? To jump off a ledge? To drive a wedge?

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Is this aimed at us?  If so, hi Gary!

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40 minutes ago, Joyster said:

Is this aimed at us?  If so, hi Gary!

I don't think Gary has found us yet.

He has so many "critics" and "frenemies" and people who gossip about him, in his addled little mind - pretty much anyone who has ever mildly disagreed with him or asked him to consider some perspective (including from the bible) other than his own.

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I don’t think Gary has the detective skills to find a snark group. If he did find us, he wouldn’t be able to resist posting an ungrammatical rant about how we’re all going to hell and are probably nekkid.  

Amusing as it would be if this were aimed at us, I agree it’s probably aimed at the idiots who engage with him on social media. There’s plenty of infighting in the comments to his posts. 

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Two reasons I don't think he's reading at Freejinger:

1. he's not ranting about us. He rants if he gets Bible quoted at him on FB, he would rant about us.

2. reading? seriously? this is thread 20, and all @thoughtful's recaps are a mile long. he can't handle so many words

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Okay three reasons.

3. if he ever found out that there were 20 threads recounting every word he ever said on the internet his smug head would swell so much it would be in the news.  Just think what an impression he made! only the most important evangelists have had such an impact! so much opposition and persecution must prove he's doing God's work right! he's winning souls with his unspeakable arguments even on heathen sites sworn to devilry!

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I just finished rereading “Cold Comfort Farm” (next step: re-watching the excellent movie adaptation!), and Gary reminded me so much of the blathering, fire-and-brimstone lay preacher Amos Starkadder.

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Gary was at Berean Baptist Church in Greenwood, Indiana last Wednesday.  When I looked at the church’s website, it seemed larger and a litlte more prosperous than Gary’s usual gigs, and I was curious how he would do and listened to a little bit.  Gary starts off in the middle of a sentence about Gary hearing about the shooting (Greenwood Park Shooting Article ).  He just got in town yesterday. He has a gospel tent ministry and somebody a month ago put on Facebook they had a pulpit they was trying to get rid of.  He was looking for a pulpit because his other one got messed up.  He drove somewhere outside Indianapolis, picked it up, and now here he is again. I guess CC does't know how Gary can mess up a pulpit, so it tried to find something logical for Gary to mess up:

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So, I think from all that, he was letting them know he was in the area a month ago to pick up that pulpit that he has not used once. Indianapolis is a little over 8 hour drive from his location in North Carolina or 11 hours away from Conway, South Carolina, where he preached that weekend. Seems like a great use of his time, wear and tear on his truck, and gas money.

He goes through his burden for America spiel.  He gets into the typical topic of how America is losing churches and preachers.   Myrtle Beach doesn’t have a good Baptist church; just because it says Baptist doesn’t mean a whole lot.  CC has a new interpretation of Gary’s Baptist:

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And then he talks about something that I don’t remember.  He is fine with potential churches asking him about scripture, but they now want to know about something that’s coming in your closet, and that’s none of your business. Once you’ve been washed in the blood, it shouldn’t matter. They want to dig down so far, and he thinks he knows why, and he’ll get to it eventually.  Gary then talks about an evangelist from Kentucky, a good Bible believer preacher, whose wife died and now he’s into porn.  Now, Gary’s not going to condemn him like other Baptist preachers because Gary’s wife hasn’t died.  Listen now, he’s not uplifting porn.  He goes on to tell the story from the Bible of the woman who slept with all the men; Jesus, unlike the other men, didn’t condemn her, he just said, “Go sin no more.”  Jesus ain’t upholding sinning, and Gary's watching Baptist preachers uphold sin.  CC has another interpretation:

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Perhaps this explains the padded pews comment on the clothing post.

Hmm, so some potential churches are asking questions about Gary’s past and Gary doesn’t want to answer them.  This is probably the gossip about him.

He tells the congregation he’s not going to talk about what he planned.  Oh, goody.  An unplanned spew of Gary’s words.  He doesn’t know the church, and it’s good to be concerned about the shootings that have been going on around the community. Gary doesn’t believe the person who stopped the shooter by shooting him is saved, but God uses lost people sometimes, God steadied his hand, because God loves America.  

I’m not in the mood to hear any more Gary garbage God loving America or guns. He’s at 5:30 and he’s finally starting to read the Bible.  I stopped watching here.

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17 minutes ago, Joyster said:

Gary was at Berean Baptist Church in Greenwood, Indiana last Wednesday.

Oh my god- I live in Indy, I can't believe I missed a chance to see Gary! (I am joking) 

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On 7/24/2022 at 2:11 PM, FeministShrew said:

I kind of miss innocent, gullible me from way back then. But I was incredibly sad, lonely, and unfulfilled, and the only emotional highs I got were at church services or gospel signings. 

There's something about those high harmonies that cause your soul to soar, isn't there? Even if the words don't mean so much anymore. 

18 minutes ago, Joyster said:

Hmm, so some potential churches are asking questions about Gary’s past and Gary doesn’t want to answer them.  This is probably the gossip about him.

Likely somebody Googled him and came up with the fact that he and Becky are both previously divorced, and possibly that he had a run in with the law as a young man. Truth isn't necessarily gossip, Gary. If you're going to preach against divorce then people should know your background in that regard before listening to your opinions.

Really I can't imagine asking someone to preach who you haven't done a pretty thorough check on. And as picky about rules as these churches are, you'd think that's the first thing they'd do.

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