Carlin & Evan 11: Scary Health Situation

[Giraffe]

37 minutes ago, CanadianMamam said:

Is this an American thing? I was admitted briefly when my son was two months old and he was allowed to stay with me and I know other people in the same situation, that the could bring the baby with them. But I mean, my husband was also allowed to stay with me (on a chair bed). 

We’re the land of “sue them for anything,” so probably. 

[OHFL2009]

1 hour ago, CanadianMamam said:

No, he had a post on his instagram and it has now been deleted. 

He must have done both, because the screenshot I saw of it (on Reddit, I think) was from a story. Maybe once the story expired he decided to delete the post. 

[GuineaPigCourtship]

1 hour ago, Giraffe said:

There’s no way the hospital would even consider allowing the baby to stay with her.

I'm not saying you're incorrect, but this seems incredibly wrong.  What would they do in the case of a single parent with no support to watch a baby?  Refuse care?  I think even in two parent households they would risk mother declining more in-depth care because of not wanting to leave her child.

 

ETA: I realize you may not mean generally but because of a risk of dropping Zade, which makes more sense.  I think perhaps if Evan is staying with her to assist with nursing (there are a lot of carriers that can be used for nursing to reduce the risk if she is sitting up in bed and being watched) it would be safe/acceptable.  I am very pro lactation support, especially given the current issues with formula contamination and shortage and read your comment as a broad statement instead of one specific to her current health concerns.

Edited May 23, 2022 by GuineaPigCourtship

[Giraffe]

@GuineaPigCourtship if someone is admitted to the hospital and doesn’t have anyone to care for their kids there’s a good chance the hospital would get social services involved to provide care for the kids while the parent’s hospitalized. 
 

(Their first step would likely be to encourage parent to find a friend or neighbor who could care for the baby/kids but, failing that, they’d bring social services in)

Edited May 23, 2022 by Giraffe
Clarifying

[Bluebirdbluebell]

I can see letting a young baby stay with their mother, although that also brings to mind who will pay for the baby to stay in the hospital?

On the other hand, if Michelle Duggar and JB were at the hospital (think many years ago), it would be ridiculous to let a dozen kids stay over just because they don't have someone to watch the kids.

[socalrules]

Carlin is not in a position to take care of the baby while in the hospital. She is constantly being tested and likely taken to different parts of the hospital for that testing all day. She may still be passing out while there. She can be with her kids once she is released or they can come to visit. Plus, she doesn’t need to breast feed him for every meal. She can express her milk and Evan can take it back to his parent’s house. Not even taking into account she may have a roommate. It’s not fair to them or anyone else on the floor to deal with someone else’s upset or crying baby while trying to recover from their own illness. 

[BeccaGrim]

2 hours ago, Giraffe said:

@GuineaPigCourtship if someone is admitted to the hospital and doesn’t have anyone to care for their kids there’s a good chance the hospital would get social services involved to provide care for the kids while the parent’s hospitalized. 
 

(Their first step would likely be to encourage parent to find a friend or neighbor who could care for the baby/kids but, failing that, they’d bring social services in)

Yes, the state will put the kids in a temporary foster situation if no one can take them.  They don't allow kids to stay at the hospital with their parent. 

[SassyPants]

Where my daughter lives in So America, they did let her NB-3 month old baby come and stay at the hospital with her as long as either my SIL or I were also staying. So I remember during a World Cup weekend I went and stayed at the hospital with my infant GD, so her husband could get away for a bit.  I remember thinking at the time that no way would this be allowed in a US facility (I was a nurse at the time so was very familiar with US hospitals).

[Johannah]

My dad was hospitalized for kidney stones when my brother was 6 years old. Our parents had just divorced, it was during a weekend when my dad had custody, and he had just moved to a new city with no friends or family. My brother was allowed to stay overnight and all day in the hospital with him during that time. Granted, this was about 30 years ago, and white male privilege was likely a factor, but it certainly was not banned or even questioned. 

[AussieKrissy]

I think if you go back into hospital up to six weeks after bubs they put you back in maternity. Assuming icu and special care are not the case. Not a hundred percent positive. 
i feel for her. 

[Smoochie]

I'm sure they're all concerned, praying for her, etc. and yes you don't need to post everything on SM, however, this family lives on it. To date, Whitney (in her stories) is the only one that acknowledged that Carlin is ill and in need of prayers, unless I've missed something.

I could understand if it was being kept quiet and no one was aware, but, not even a mention. I just find it so odd for a christian family that preaches love.

Edited May 23, 2022 by Smoochie

[CanadianMamam]

7 minutes ago, Smoochie said:

I'm sure they're all concerned, praying for her, etc. and yes you don't need to post everything on SM, however, this family lives on it. To date, Whitney (in her stories) is the only one that acknowledged that Carlin is ill and in need of prayers, unless I've missed something.

I could understand if it was being kept quiet and no one was aware, but, not even a mention. I just find it so odd for a christian family that preaches love.

I am wondering if Carlin and Evan asked to control the narrative and have no one else post. Since the show was cancelled, the Bates kids seem to be controlling their own news. It was mentioned that Lawson and Tiffany were approving what was shared about the wedding. It could be that Evan has asked no one to post until they have more answers. 

[Bluebirdbluebell]

31 minutes ago, Smoochie said:

I'm sure they're all concerned, praying for her, etc. and yes you don't need to post everything on SM, however, this family lives on it. To date, Whitney (in her stories) is the only one that acknowledged that Carlin is ill and in need of prayers, unless I've missed something.

I could understand if it was being kept quiet and no one was aware, but, not even a mention. I just find it so odd for a christian family that preaches love.

Are they posting other things or are they keeping silent? If they're keeping silent, then maybe they're concerned, and staying off social media makes them feel better. If they're posting things from random life, then that's a little strange.

[Smoochie]

6 minutes ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

Are they posting other things or are they keeping silent? If they're keeping silent, then maybe they're concerned, and staying off social media makes them feel better. If they're posting things from random life, then that's a little strange.

They're all posting their stories as normal, some daily, some multiple times daily. Just odd to me that there's nothing at all when it's not a secret, not even a keep her in your prayers.

Edited May 23, 2022 by Smoochie

[BeccaGrim]

1 hour ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

Are they posting other things or are they keeping silent? If they're keeping silent, then maybe they're concerned, and staying off social media makes them feel better. If they're posting things from random life, then that's a little strange.

It seems business as usual on there.  Josie is back from another trip. Lots of smiles. Whitney went to the grocery store. Katie did an ad and complained about her grass. 

[indianabones]

Carlin was discharged and they drove back home from Nashville. Despite all the tests the hospital ran, it doesn't sound like they got any solid answers- definitely no diagnosis. The doctors told Evan to apply for FMLA since Carlin isn't able to be alone and can't safely drive.

Edited May 24, 2022 by indianabones

[AussieKrissy]

12 minutes ago, indianabones said:

Carlin was discharged and they drove back home from Nashville. Despite all the tests the hospital ran, it doesn't sound like they got any solid answers- definitely no diagnosis. The doctors told Evan to apply for FMLA since Carlin isn't able to be alone and can't safely drive.

and this is please?

 

Edited May 24, 2022 by AussieKrissy
family medical leave of absence????

[justmy2cents]

5 minutes ago, AussieKrissy said:

and this is please?

 

I used FMLA for my Maternity Leave.

 

Edited May 24, 2022 by justmy2cents

[HeartsAFundie]

2 minutes ago, AussieKrissy said:

and this is please?

 

Unpaid, job protected medical leave to care for oneself or a family member for up to 12 weeks (or 26 weeks if you are military) in a 12-month period.  It only came about in the USA in the 1990s.  Health insurance continuation coverage applies.  Thank you, President Clinton.  

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fmla  

[marmalade]

I hope the boutique and YouTube are paying well. They really need to get out of the apartment by the end of the month now that Evan won't be bringing home any money in the near future. 

[MaryOrMartha]

17 minutes ago, marmalade said:

I hope the boutique and YouTube are paying well. They really need to get out of the apartment by the end of the month now that Evan won't be bringing home any money in the near future. 

If things were really tight and family couldn't help financially, I'm sure they could easily crowd fund.

[GreenBeans]

4 hours ago, HeartsAFundie said:

Unpaid, job protected medical leave to care for oneself or a family member for up to 12 weeks (or 26 weeks if you are military) in a 12-month period.  It only came about in the USA in the 1990s.  Health insurance continuation coverage applies.  Thank you, President Clinton.  

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fmla  

It’s interesting how fundies are against any kind of “socialist” program, until they need it…

[BeccaGrim]

It has to be so frustrating to not have any answers yet.  I really feel for them.  

[Alisamer]

14 hours ago, HeartsAFundie said:

Unpaid, job protected medical leave to care for oneself or a family member for up to 12 weeks (or 26 weeks if you are military) in a 12-month period.  It only came about in the USA in the 1990s.  Health insurance continuation coverage applies.  Thank you, President Clinton.  

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fmla  

My understanding is that FMLA (in my state at least) only applies if you work for a company with over 50 employees within a 75 mile radius and have worked for that employer full time for at least a year. 

I have literally never qualified for FMLA ever in my life. I luckily haven't needed it, but it also affected my life plans - at one point I was planning to adopt but with no FMLA and only 2 weeks vacation and no sick leave? How would that possibly work? Except for 2 short-term summer jobs as a teen, I've never worked for a company with 50 employees or more. 

Support small businesses! But don't work for them, or you'll be screwed. 

21 hours ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

I can see letting a young baby stay with their mother, although that also brings to mind who will pay for the baby to stay in the hospital?

Yeah they are in the US. If you cry and the doctor says "there, there, it'll be OK..." that's a charge on the bill. They put the baby on your chest after it's born? $40 on the invoice for "skin to skin contact". Bandaid? You're paying for the entire industrial size mega box of bandaids. Even if they put up a pack n' play in the corner and had someone watching the baby at all times there'd probably be a cost of some sort. 

I hope they figure out what's going on, that sounds scary. I also hope they take her health seriously, even if that means delaying or preventing more pregnancies.

[Mama Mia]

22 minutes ago, Alisamer said:

My understanding is that FMLA (in my state at least) only applies if you work for a company with over 50 employees within a 75 mile radius and have worked for that employer full time for at least a year. 

I have literally never qualified for FMLA ever in my life. I luckily haven't needed it, but it also affected my life plans - at one point I was planning to adopt but with no FMLA and only 2 weeks vacation and no sick leave? How would that possibly work? Except for 2 short-term summer jobs as a teen, I've never worked for a company with 50 employees or more. 

Support small businesses! But don't work for them, or you'll be screwed. 

 

I’m so glad I live in California.  Our Family Medical Leave is paid for 8 weeks. Plus the additional 4 weeks unpaid job protection. And the bars to qualify for both pay and protections are much lower  -  employer has 5 or more employees, and you’ve worked 1,250 hours over the past year (so about half time) . We also have paid short term disability for medical problems ( up to one year) and paid maternity leave - 4 weeks before, 6 weeks after (8 weeks after a c-section) Most women combine the maternity leave and PFML to get 14 weeks paid. And then the extra 4 unpaid, if they can swing it.  It’s not at full pay ( 2/3 ? ) but it really, really helps. I’ve utilized each of these at different points. The paid disability for maternity leave was even around 40 years ago when I had my 1st kid. Criminal that most of the US doesn’t have mandated paid anything.