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Remnant Fellowship 22: The Great & Powerful Oz-Lizabeth


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1 hour ago, RFFriend said:

So, just thinking about what Dan did say in his video.... do you think Michael would decide to sell the church property to get the money or maybe he would even want to destroy the church?  Would Elizabeth allow him to do that?  I assume they both have equal shares in her estate.  Seems like Gwen underestimated Michael when she did her will not realizing that he might not care to keep the church going and that she might have needed to leave the church property to the church to keep it going.

Do we know that the actual church land and building were in Gwen’s name when she died?  I guess it has always been my understanding that she donated both to the RF church.  If this is true neither of her children would be able to touch it, right?  It would be a 501c3 nonprofit organization paying no taxes and governed by its official board members.  

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1 hour ago, CRAnn said:

Do we know that the actual church land and building were in Gwen’s name when she died?  I guess it has always been my understanding that she donated both to the RF church.  If this is true neither of her children would be able to touch it, right?  It would be a 501c3 nonprofit organization paying no taxes and governed by its official board members.  

I looked up the property and it looks like this is it.  Says that Remnant Fellowship is the owner, but what does that mean legally?

 

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Nnnot quite sure where this came from (too much leftover pumpkin pie?), but last night I was thinking about Amy Winehouse’s music and sad life and immense legacy … and I thought about her hair beehive and Gwen’s bumpit pouf. 
 

Nothing past that, except … what might they have had in common to choose to style themselves in those similar ways?  Huh. The things that cross my mind. 

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20 hours ago, Blue said:

At the time she basically tied religion to intuitive eating

When we first started discussing Gwen I looked at my library and they had an old 90s edition copy of her book that I flipped through. If I remember correctly even pre-RF it was about waiting for the growl and tying eating before the stomach growled as sinful. That alone is dangerous and abusive teachings that church leaders should have had the wisdom to pick up on. Tying eating before your stomach growls to sin is just setting the groundwork for eating disorders. 
 

I would not say she was ever into true initiative eating because that mindset is acknowledging that we don’t need to always give into junk food cravings and there is a focus on eating healthy foods. Gwen was more into disordered eating which is you can eat all junk food but only small amounts while waiting until you really hungry. Intuitive eating can be realizing that if a person waits until their stomach is growling they tend to over eat, so they instead eat at set times. It is about knowing your body and realizing there is no one plan that works for everyone. Gwen liked to claim she was teaching intuitive eating but it was really her way or you are sinning and making God unhappy. 
 

59 minutes ago, RFFriend said:

So, just thinking about what Dan did say in his video...

I think he makes stuff up and should be ignored. Not that long ago he was claiming Michael was going to kill himself in a matter of weeks. 

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5 minutes ago, RFFriend said:

I looked up the property and it looks like this is it.  Says that Remnant Fellowship is the owner, but what does that mean legally?

 

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It means it’s like any other church and does not belong to any one individual or family.  It can only be sold if the governing board chooses to dissolve the church.  Even then, the proceeds of such a sell would not go to those board members or the other church members.  Nonprofits are kind of community or societal property and when one dissolves it donates it’s proceeds to another nonprofit or trust, usually where the mission is similar, or will at least benefit the community or all of society  in a similar way.  

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1 minute ago, formergothardite said:

If I remember correctly even pre-RF it was about waiting for the growl and tying eating before the stomach growled as sinful. That alone is dangerous and abusive teachings that church leaders should have had the wisdom to pick up on.

Disclaimer: i don’t get out a lot. Never have. My life is a network of rabbit trails that I’m content with.
That’s to excuse my provincialism in only having seen  one church sponsoring Weigh Down, back in the day. 
It was my former parish snd in an upper-middle-class town that was being suburbanized. 
When I was there, ladies wore fur stoles and little mink skins with a spring in the poor critter’s mouth biting into a hind leg. 
Big on image snd status, is what I’m trying to say. 
My guess is that church leaders (men only) figured that whatever the ladies wanted that kept ‘em thin and attractive and happy was okay-fine. After all, the ladies aren’t in leadership positions. 
I’m sure the congregation dropped the program when Gwen denied the Trinity. 
Anyway. Church leaders, yeah, the truth of early WD probably wasn’t anywhere near their radar range. 

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