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6 minutes ago, Alisamer said:

I think that like pretty much all movies and entertainment it's a good idea to watch them WITH kids

Absolutely agree. Plus, you never know what might scare or worry your kid. I watched Brave with my daughter when she was eight or nine, and she panicked when Merida’s mom got turned into a bear and didn’t recognise her own kid anymore. And I’m talking full blown panic, sobbing and begging me to turn it off. It does make sense, if you think about it - talk about a nightmare scenario for a sensitive child! Anyway, that’s a PG rated movie, so clearly most people didn’t see anything wrong with it. You just never know…

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6 hours ago, Expectopatronus said:

100% agree with you. And really, Frozen is one of the least objectionable Disney movies. I could understand banning Pocahontas because it whitewashes history, Aladdin because the villains are darker than the heroes (and the heroes all have American accents whilst the villains do not) but Frozen? 
Just to clarify, I do not intend to ban any Disney flick because I think they can be great tools for discussion and for teaching kids implicit racism and traditional gender roles that can be challenged. Plus, they have catchy songs and feel good endings. 

ohhh aladdin, that stuff I had not noticed..... :(

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I agree that the message of frozen is much better than the Disney of my youth. I’m sure people like the young’s prefer Song of the South though. 
 

Also.  What is she implying here?

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If I had to hazard a guess, based on the general batshittery of these kinds of people, I would say she probably thinks that Biden or Clinton or the nebulous Deep State had them murdered. That, or that they really were hired crisis actors who now have to "disappear" to keep the fiction up, and so the suicides have been orchestrated as a cover. No way does she actually feel any kind of empathy for the families or the officers, given that she probably would've happily beaten them with a Thin Blue Line flagpole had she attended the insurrection.

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ET is the family movie that scared the shit out of me as a kid. Aliens were scary. Especially when they turned all white and were dying. The Land Before Time made me bawl. Why did Littlefoot’s mom have to die right in front of his eyes?! That was horribly sad. I hated Bambi because his mother got shot and deer hunting was completely normal where I grew up. 

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17 hours ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

Wait, what? I'm sorry I didn't know she didn't want to date him. Who shamed her into him? TIA.

In one of their testimonies (they’ve had a few, usually to declare that Jesus saved him from alcoholism only to have him end up in the hospital again a few months later…and I really don’t mean to shame him-I want him to get real help and stop using babies as bandaids) they said he asked her out several times in college, she said no several times until he wore her down. 
 

It reminds me of that tweet that went around last year where someone asked her nephew if a girl he likes accepted his date proposal:

“no she said no”

”you know what that means right?”

”yeah yeah I gotta keep trying”

“no! Leave her the eff alone!”

Too bad that (being respectful of a girl’s boundaries/wishes) would never happen in their circles. 

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9 hours ago, Expectopatronus said:

100% agree with you. And really, Frozen is one of the least objectionable Disney movies. I could understand banning Pocahontas because it whitewashes history, Aladdin because the villains are darker than the heroes (and the heroes all have American accents whilst the villains do not) but Frozen? 
Just to clarify, I do not intend to ban any Disney flick because I think they can be great tools for discussion and for teachi
ng kids implicit racism and traditional gender roles that can be challenged. Plus, they have catchy songs and feel good endings. 

I had the experience of nannying twin 5-year-old daughters when Frozen came out...OMG even at a party where everyone but me was from India the little girls were singing "Let It Go." 

The big adult takeaway at the time was that the "finding true love" at the end was finding the love between sisters, not finding a Prince Charming. And in fact one "prince" was a douche who got kicked to the curb." Maybe that's what's really bothering him.

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Two of the scariest things on TV as a child for me were:

1. Courage the Cowardly Dog (that show is scary even today)

2. Doodle-bob in that Spongebob episode. Something about him yelling "oh-yoy-minoy!!!" while erasing people scares the shit out of me. 

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It seems to me like there was an episode of the Scooby-Doo cartoon that had the villain as the headless horseman that gave me nightmares for a while. My mom wouldn't let me watch Scooby-Doo for a while.

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4 hours ago, patsymae said:

I had the experience of nannying twin 5-year-old daughters when Frozen came out...OMG even at a party where everyone but me was from India the little girls were singing "Let It Go." 

The big adult takeaway at the time was that the "finding true love" at the end was finding the love between sisters, not finding a Prince Charming. And in fact one "prince" was a douche who got kicked to the curb." Maybe that's what's really bothering him.

Maybe but maybe also Elsa is more powerful then any man. She's the Queen. With or without powers she's the most powerful. A man like him can't handle that.

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I was terrified of the Mr. Bill segments on Saturday Night Live.

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I remember watching the Wizard of Oz in pre-school and the flying monkeys made me never ever see that again until I was in a middle school play and had to face my fears ?

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Watership Down was considered a family film. Loads of us cousins shoved in a room while the adults chatted elsewhere, content that we were watching a cartoon. That film was horrifying. I still shudder thinking about it.

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I still can’t watch the original Jumanji to this day because it scared me as a kid. I was also scared by Jurassic Park and Gremlins. 

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Did anyone else notice that it looks like Jessa & Jill both stopped following Kristen Nicole Young???

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1 hour ago, front hugs > duggs said:

I remember watching the Wizard of Oz in pre-school and the flying monkeys made me never ever see that again until I was in a middle school play and had to face my fears ?

When I was a kid it came on once a year on one of the networks, and we'd sit and watch it. I remember when I was very young watching the flying monkeys and wicked witch flying parts from the hallway - I wanted to watch, but... not too closely. 

That's the only non-horror film I can remember being frightening to me as a kid. But then I watched Creepshow and Friday the 13th in fourth grade or so at a sleepover with a friend, and after that most regular stuff didn't register as scary, comparitavely. 

Oh, but the music video for Kate Bush's "Running up that Hill" I remember being scary. I don't even remember what was scary about it, but it was scary. (Love the song to this day, though.)

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38 minutes ago, luv2laugh said:

Did anyone else notice that it looks like Jessa & Jill both stopped following Kristen Nicole Young???

Not surprised with Jill, even though she still has the same "crunchy mama" style with those gigantic headbands and similar home decor, like the baskets on the walls. Jessa has had that style too and still religious, but we havent heard her political opinions as much, have we?

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13 minutes ago, freethemall said:

Not surprised with Jill, even though she still has the same "crunchy mama" style with those gigantic headbands and similar home decor, like the baskets on the walls. Jessa has had that style too and still religious, but we havent heard her political opinions as much, have we?

Jill got the vaccine and possibly showed support for Harris by wearing converse. She's also in therapy so perhaps she's able to recognize how deranged KNY sounds. 

Jessa hasn't posted political opinions since having Spurgeon, but before him she was posting things like abortion is the Holocaust. Her husband insists he didn't vote for Trump (the first time at least, not sure about the reelection), but he also saw a pastor and a practicing Catholic get elected as a US senate and President respectively and was like, Christians are going to be persecuted now. And I feel like we can assume her views are relatively in line with Ben's. All that's to say, I do find her unfollowing a bit more surprising.

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I imagine even if you have top level political alignment with KNY, her incessant diatribes and conspiracy theories would be annoying to have on your feed. It seemed like her friendship with the Duggars was largely around the taco place, so when Justin relapsed and lost that job, it might have effected the convenience friendship. Jill seemed like she was really needing friendship when they got back from Central America. KNY was among a group she fell in with then, but now she seems to have a couple close friends who are a bit more mainstream conservative Christian. 

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56 minutes ago, theotherelise said:

I imagine even if you have top level political alignment with KNY, her incessant diatribes and conspiracy theories would be annoying to have on your feed. It seemed like her friendship with the Duggars was largely around the taco place, so when Justin relapsed and lost that job, it might have effected the convenience friendship. Jill seemed like she was really needing friendship when they got back from Central America. KNY was among a group she fell in with then, but now she seems to have a couple close friends who are a bit more mainstream conservative Christian. 

I agree. I am liberal but I swear there are people with similar political opinions that are so annoying with their political postings. It’s the incessant types that constantly rant about the same things all day long that bug me. They could be saying everything I agree with but it’s still annoying.  

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Both Jessa and Jill still follow Kristen. Jessa also follows Justin. 

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For me, Kristen is currently tied for equal worst fundie with Ashley Salyer. I hope those two never get together. 

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5 hours ago, TuringMachine said:

Jill got the vaccine and possibly showed support for Harris by wearing converse. She's also in therapy so perhaps she's able to recognize how deranged KNY sounds. 

Jessa hasn't posted political opinions since having Spurgeon, but before him she was posting things like abortion is the Holocaust. Her husband insists he didn't vote for Trump (the first time at least, not sure about the reelection), but he also saw a pastor and a practicing Catholic get elected as a US senate and President respectively and was like, Christians are going to be persecuted now. And I feel like we can assume her views are relatively in line with Ben's. All that's to say, I do find her unfollowing a bit more surprising.

I have family who are both 'never Trump' evangelicals AND believe that the Democrats getting in mean that Christians are going to be persecuted. I know everybody thinks that those two positions don't jive, but that just speaks to how wholeheartedly identity-based and tribal politics is now. It used to be that you voted D or R but your opinions beyond that might vary quite a bit, and it would be broadly OK: nowadays there's a whole package you need to get all in with, or apparently you're a hypocrite. Like pro-Republican HAS to equal anti-vaxx. I know that who you vote for extends far far beyond your moment in the polling station, but the idea that there is one set of ideas that everybody of a 'type' must subscribe to is really toxic.

Many fundie-lite members of my own extended family have found themselves in really difficult positions in terms of their community during the Trump administration, Biden's win, and the pandemic. Eg some are able to use their critical faculties, as Ben did, to establish that Trump is not any definition of a Christian and that it's not good enough to back an evil person because they might enact God's will (ie, what that group want). But their friends, relatives, churches - who are as fundie and as homeschooling and as 2nd amendment as they are themselves - are totally blinkered in their support for Trump. Some, understanding painfully first-hand what respiratory infections can do to the immunocompromised, have spent 18 months scrupulously social distancing, which for them means having to explain to their kids why they see their cousins out socialising but are not allowed to join them.

My sister-in-law feels tacitly pushed out of the church youth group she runs because she wanted mask-wearing and other precautions to be implemented when indoors, and the church elders/other organisers disagreed. She tells me she doesn't know if she'll ever feel the same way about anyone she used to consider her support group, having seen the risks they took during the pandemic and the positions they took as Trump voters. She is a devout fundamentalist Christian, 2nd generation SOTDRT, and she cannot square the rage she feels at these people now she has seen what they are willing to do. She hasn't abandoned her faith, she hasn't abandoned her way of life, she doesn't wish to - but the idea that it all has to be packaged up with behaviours that are aborrent to her is new and cruel.

All this to say, it is possible to be one thing AND another. There are a lot of fundamentalist Christians who haven't wavered from their faith but who seriously question what their community has chosen to rally around, and find that when they try to do what is right according to their own conscience, that community closes off to them. I can believe that Ben never voted for Trump and found him repellent: if he was conscientious in his study, even if it was directed by his cult, it was the only reasonable conclusion he should have come to.

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Just linking to an old post where I laid out exactly what one of my relatives has explained he means when he says "the Christians are going to be persecuted". He lives in the midwest.

 

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1 hour ago, AprilQuilt said:

I can believe that Ben never voted for Trump and found him repellent: if he was conscientious in his study, even if it was directed by his cult, it was the only reasonable conclusion he should have come to.

I can believe Ben never voted for Trump too. The reason I said I wasn't sure about the reelection is because I wasn't sure if he explicitly said he didn't for for Trump like he did the first time, and he wouldn't be the first republican to go off the deep end after Trump was elected. I'm not saying that being anti Trump is incompatible with believing Christians are being persecuted. Ben's post was made immediately after Biden and Warnock's wins were confirmed, so I think it's safe to assume he was referring to them (plus Ossoff and Harris). So either he's an idiot who couldn't be bothered to learn anything about the people he's talking about, or he's an even bigger idiot who actually thinks a devout catholic and a pastor are going to persecute themselves, or he's just an asshole who's deliberately spreading lies.

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