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2 hours ago, CaptainFunderpants said:

Try skipping all of that but going completely yeast-free, I swear within a week their gut issues will be noticeably reduced.

If you can get them to do it, also swallow a table spoon or two of ACV every night for three nights; it tastes horrible but it'll help jumpstart the process of getting their gut biome back in check.

This is the one diet where I felt so good so quickly that staying on it hasn't even been a challenge; it's just a matter of reading every label/ingredients list with a fine tooth comb, which you've already been doing anyway because of avoiding onion.

Acv? Why is yeast so bad for you. I’m having some gut and poop issues I have to assume it’s is dairy but maybe it might be this. 

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38 minutes ago, AussieKrissy said:

Acv? Why is yeast so bad for you. I’m having some gut and poop issues I have to assume it’s is dairy but maybe it might be this. 

ACV = Apple cider vinegar. It kills yeast. I often use it for skin candida. It works well in salad dressings too, but I like to cut right to the chase; a swallow of it is faster, I just chase it with a sip of juice or something.

Yeast is bad because it ferments EVERYTHING in your gut leading to more gas and more bacteria growth and it's just all bad news. Cutting out yeast reduces fermentation of eggs/veggies/meat/dairy right at the source.

That said, you do have to be relatively strict with it. Flour has naturally occurring yeast, but I still eat cookies/pasta/things without added yeast. Some people completely eliminate sugar when they eliminate yeast, but for me eliminating yeast has made eliminating sugar moot.

Read every label and every ingredients list, especially when eating out. No beer/wine/cider/pretzels/donuts/bread (including sourdough). It's often used as an umami booster in all sorts of packaged food. Eating out is almost impossible; basically pasta, French fries, and burgers without the bun are your safest options. Beware of sausage. Beware of all Taco Bell meat. Any packaged or pre-made food, particularly meat and/or savory based flavors, likely has yeast in it either as a preservative or as a flavor enhancer. Breading of anything is likely a no-no. The only safe chicken nuggets I've found are Chick-fil-a's (grrr); every other non homemade nugget has yeast as an ingredient in the breading. Any "trendy" vegan food probably has yeast in it, even at a high quality Vegan restaurant; those people put "nooch" (nutritional yeast) on or in EVERYTHING.

But honestly: you'll know whether it's working, fast. I swear, within a week you'll feel substantially better. It was mind blowing to me how much better I felt and how quickly it happened. I've done Keto, I've done Scarsdale, I've done Atkins, I've gone gluten-free, dairy-free, meat-free, FODMAP, if there's a diet I've probably tried it just for shits and giggles.

Yeast-free is my holy grail. 

I felt so much better so rapidly that I don't even feel restricted. I feel free. The shackles are off and no cinnamon roll, bagel, nor piece of pizza is worth putting them back on.

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1 hour ago, CaptainFunderpants said:

ACV = Apple cider vinegar. It kills yeast. I often use it for skin candida. It works well in salad dressings too, but I like to cut right to the chase; a swallow of it is faster, I just chase it with a sip of juice or something.

Yeast is bad because it ferments EVERYTHING in your gut leading to more gas and more bacteria growth and it's just all bad news. Cutting out yeast reduces fermentation of eggs/veggies/meat/dairy right at the source.

That said, you do have to be relatively strict with it. Flour has naturally occurring yeast, but I still eat cookies/pasta/things without added yeast. Some people completely eliminate sugar when they eliminate yeast, but for me eliminating yeast has made eliminating sugar moot.

Read every label and every ingredients list, especially when eating out. No beer/wine/cider/pretzels/donuts/bread (including sourdough). It's often used as an umami booster in all sorts of packaged food. Eating out is almost impossible; basically pasta, French fries, and burgers without the bun are your safest options. Beware of sausage. Beware of all Taco Bell meat. Any packaged or pre-made food, particularly meat and/or savory based flavors, likely has yeast in it either as a preservative or as a flavor enhancer. Breading of anything is likely a no-no. The only safe chicken nuggets I've found are Chick-fil-a's (grrr); every other non homemade nugget has yeast as an ingredient in the breading. Any "trendy" vegan food probably has yeast in it, even at a high quality Vegan restaurant; those people put "nooch" (nutritional yeast) on or in EVERYTHING.

But honestly: you'll know whether it's working, fast. I swear, within a week you'll feel substantially better. It was mind blowing to me how much better I felt and how quickly it happened. I've done Keto, I've done Scarsdale, I've done Atkins, I've gone gluten-free, dairy-free, meat-free, FODMAP, if there's a diet I've probably tried it just for shits and giggles.

Yeast-free is my holy grail. 

I felt so much better so rapidly that I don't even feel restricted. I feel free. The shackles are off and no cinnamon roll, bagel, nor piece of pizza is worth putting them back on.

Thank you. Screenshot for future reference. I will give it a try. 

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On 5/8/2021 at 7:59 PM, eljayem said:

That is interesting we are currently in low-Fodmap land for my partner. He started having digestive issues last year mid-lockdown. So far we have done the celiac test, had a colonoscopy, done low-fodmap with reintroduction guided by a dietician, had symptoms come back, and are now waiting to be seen by a specialist again. This time they want to stick a camera down his throat to check the upper digestive system. Our diets for the past year have been variations of potatoes and meat and really boring. The worst thing has been realising how many foods have some form of onion in them low fodmap has actually been really difficult to do long term.

You are an incredibly supportive partner to stick with low-FODMAP with him this long. When my doctor suggest I try low-FODMAP, I cried when I realized that literally every dish I make for dinner on a regular basis has onion and garlic. I lasted just over a week, but the stress of trying to figure out what to eat (I have other, non-FODMAP related food intolerances too) actually made my symptoms worse. I lost more than a pound a day. And that was during COVID, when the only out-of-the-house meal I had to figure out was lunch at the office, where I at least had a microwave and toaster oven. During normal times I travel a lot for work, and there is no way I could do low-FODMAP on the road. 

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On 5/9/2021 at 4:30 AM, CaptainFunderpants said:

ACV = Apple cider vinegar. It kills yeast. I often use it for skin candida. It works well in salad dressings too, but I like to cut right to the chase; a swallow of it is faster, I just chase it with a sip of juice or something.

Yeast is bad because it ferments EVERYTHING in your gut leading to more gas and more bacteria growth and it's just all bad news. Cutting out yeast reduces fermentation of eggs/veggies/meat/dairy right at the source.

That said, you do have to be relatively strict with it. Flour has naturally occurring yeast, but I still eat cookies/pasta/things without added yeast. Some people completely eliminate sugar when they eliminate yeast, but for me eliminating yeast has made eliminating sugar moot.

Read every label and every ingredients list, especially when eating out. No beer/wine/cider/pretzels/donuts/bread (including sourdough). It's often used as an umami booster in all sorts of packaged food. Eating out is almost impossible; basically pasta, French fries, and burgers without the bun are your safest options. Beware of sausage. Beware of all Taco Bell meat. Any packaged or pre-made food, particularly meat and/or savory based flavors, likely has yeast in it either as a preservative or as a flavor enhancer. Breading of anything is likely a no-no. The only safe chicken nuggets I've found are Chick-fil-a's (grrr); every other non homemade nugget has yeast as an ingredient in the breading. Any "trendy" vegan food probably has yeast in it, even at a high quality Vegan restaurant; those people put "nooch" (nutritional yeast) on or in EVERYTHING.

But honestly: you'll know whether it's working, fast. I swear, within a week you'll feel substantially better. It was mind blowing to me how much better I felt and how quickly it happened. I've done Keto, I've done Scarsdale, I've done Atkins, I've gone gluten-free, dairy-free, meat-free, FODMAP, if there's a diet I've probably tried it just for shits and giggles.

Yeast-free is my holy grail. 

I felt so much better so rapidly that I don't even feel restricted. I feel free. The shackles are off and no cinnamon roll, bagel, nor piece of pizza is worth putting them back on.

I'm glad this worked for you but I don't think it's smart to assume it'll work for anyone with digestive issues. Bodies are complicated.

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On 5/9/2021 at 2:25 AM, AussieKrissy said:

Acv? Why is yeast so bad for you. I’m having some gut and poop issues I have to assume it’s is dairy but maybe it might be this. 

See a gastroenterologist. I had issues my whole life. Not solved until I saw a good gastro doctor and got an actual diagnosis.  

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4 hours ago, louisa05 said:

See a gastroenterologist. I had issues my whole life. Not solved until I saw a good gastro doctor and got an actual diagnosis.  

Same here with my stomach problems. The gastro doctor was who figured out what it was.  

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8 hours ago, JordynDarby5 said:

Same here with my stomach problems. The gastro doctor was who figured out what it was.  

Yes. And spoiler alert: it wasn’t anything that could be fixed by eliminating any of the foods or food groups that people loved to tell me eliminating would help. I’ve had to eliminate some things from my diet. None of them are trendy things to eliminate. 

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11 hours ago, louisa05 said:

Yes. And spoiler alert: it wasn’t anything that could be fixed by eliminating any of the foods or food groups that people loved to tell me eliminating would help. I’ve had to eliminate some things from my diet. None of them are trendy things to eliminate. 

Elimination diets when you don’t know how to do it properly and then feeling 100000x better so everyone else will too!!11!! are the pits. If I had money for every time I was told to go gluten free, I would be rich. And in constant trouble since one of my sensitivities (diagnosed in childhood by a doctor 🙄) is a super common ingredient in gluten-free products. 
Trying if ACV will help is about the only one I don’t get mad at as it is adding something and not eliminating entire food groups. Also truly harmless to consume unless you are drinking actual litres of it daily, not super expensive to buy and can be used in every day cooking if it doesn’t help.

(She writes eyeing the half full vinegar bottle that didn’t help or hurt with reflux)

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13 hours ago, Mrs Ms said:

Elimination diets when you don’t know how to do it properly and then feeling 100000x better so everyone else will too!!11!! are the pits. If I had money for every time I was told to go gluten free, I would be rich. And in constant trouble since one of my sensitivities (diagnosed in childhood by a doctor 🙄) is a super common ingredient in gluten-free products. 
Trying if ACV will help is about the only one I don’t get mad at as it is adding something and not eliminating entire food groups. Also truly harmless to consume unless you are drinking actual litres of it daily, not super expensive to buy and can be used in every day cooking if it doesn’t help.

(She writes eyeing the half full vinegar bottle that didn’t help or hurt with reflux)

None of the trendy cures really help reflux. Including ACV. If you want to know what actually helps reflux, pm me and I can give you a source. Reflux is one of my multiple issues. 

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If I had a dollar for everytime one of my in-laws said "just cut down the carbs", I could retire tomorrow.

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2 hours ago, Knight of Ni said:

If I had a dollar for everytime one of my in-laws said "just cut down the carbs", I could retire tomorrow.

Or "calories in, calories out." No, not if you have metabolic disease. I'm was eating 1000 calories a day and not losing. The doctor says, "Can you go lower?" Well, no, not really if you want me to be able to remain in a customer facing job. Even 1000 calories makes me pretty hangry, especially when you see no results from your efforts.

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On 5/8/2021 at 4:59 PM, eljayem said:

That is interesting we are currently in low-Fodmap land for my partner. He started having digestive issues last year mid-lockdown. So far we have done the celiac test, had a colonoscopy, done low-fodmap with reintroduction guided by a dietician, had symptoms come back, and are now waiting to be seen by a specialist again. This time they want to stick a camera down his throat to check the upper digestive system. Our diets for the past year have been variations of potatoes and meat and really boring. The worst thing has been realising how many foods have some form of onion in them low fodmap has actually been really difficult to do long term.

I don't know if this will help you or anyone else here who is trying to do low-FODMAP but your partner's GI issues sound just like what I was going through several years ago. Turned out that the bulk of my problems came from the mints I sucked on incessantly in an attempt to ease my stomach aches. They were sweetened with xylitol, which I cannot tolerate in any amount. (Same goes for the other sugar alcohols--basically any sugar that ends in "ol". With that off my diet, and eating sourdough bread only (the fermentation process eats up the undigestible polysaccharides in wheat and rye) I don't have to be very strict with my diet. I also fermented my own sauerkraut, cucumber pickles, and a few other vegs and I think eating those raw, fermented foods on the reg helps somewhat. YMMV of course.

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On 6/16/2021 at 8:38 AM, Knight of Ni said:

If I had a dollar for everytime one of my in-laws said "just cut down the carbs", I could retire tomorrow.

If I had it for people telling me to cut out gluten or dairy or both, I could, too. Fun fact: I had a tissue biopsy test for celiac/gluten intolerance and lactose intolerance when I had an endoscopy. All negative. I don’t actually know anyone who claims gluten issues that has had any testing. 

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12 hours ago, louisa05 said:

 I don’t actually know anyone who claims gluten issues that has had any testing. 

My husband was diagnosed with celiac disease from his colonoscopy. My daughter had a blood test that indicated celiac, but didn’t want to follow up with an endoscopy to confirm. She just stopped eating gluten.

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7 minutes ago, JDuggs said:

My husband was diagnosed with celiac disease from his colonoscopy. My daughter had a blood test that indicated celiac, but didn’t want to follow up with an endoscopy to confirm. She just stopped eating gluten.

Good. 
My cousin and his kids were diagnosed with celiac by his friend, a chiropractor, via email. 

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On 6/17/2021 at 11:14 AM, louisa05 said:

don’t actually know anyone who claims gluten issues that has had any testing. 

I was diagnosed by an endoscopy.  The doctor was so excited to show me the pictures when I came around. "A classic case" is what I was told.  He was just so excited about it for some reason. Or at least that's what I remember. 😆

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I was diagnosed with celiac by blood test. My mom and aunt both have celiac as well, both confirmed by blood test followed up with biopsy. Because I was symptomatic with a strong family history and a blood test, my doctor didn't think it made sense to put me through a biopsy. My doctor's husband has celiac. She's the perfect doctor for me because she's really knowledgeable about it because it impacts her daily life too. I lucked out. 

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