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Bluebirdbluebell

Allison is shilling Young Living oils. They're an MLM. I've been watching videos on about MLMs and they're all basically pyramid schemes that somehow stay legal. There's a lot of overlap between religion, fundies and MLMs. I'm not surprised Allison has joined one. I think the wedding was probably Noah Hale and Abby Evans.

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On 4/26/2021 at 9:34 AM, nelliebelle1197 said:

It is weird but there are people who get something out of making up an alternate self and fooling people. I am fairly certain we have a couple active on here right now- we usually do, to be fair.  I am not saying this poster is a faker but the chances are 50/50 either way.

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4 minutes ago, Seeingwithopeneyes said:

Feel free to verify me. I’m from a fundie family

 

@Triplet3 just lots of little things. You all know them very well…for people who don't know them.

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Aithuia
8 hours ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

Allison is shilling Young Living oils. They're an MLM. I've been watching videos on about MLMs and they're all basically pyramid schemes that somehow stay legal. There's a lot of overlap between religion, fundies and MLMs. I'm not surprised Allison has joined one.

I was surprised to see the prominent CBD advertising in the Young Living sale image she posted, as I would have thought the Bontragers would be opposed to anything even remotely drug-adjacent.

Although Becky seems like she could use some maximum-strength CBD.

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JermajestyDuggar
1 hour ago, Aithuia said:

I was surprised to see the prominent CBD advertising in the Young Living sale image she posted, as I would have thought the Bontragers would be opposed to anything even remotely drug-adjacent.

Although Becky seems like she could use some maximum-strength CBD.

Some fundies are actually shilling CBD. Anything for a buck I guess.

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VBOY9977

They just posted a picture from the wedding they attended on the Bontragers’ ig. Newlyweds are named Noah and Abby. They didn’t say a last name, I’m not sure who they are.

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JermajestyDuggar
11 hours ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

Allison is shilling Young Living oils. They're an MLM. I've been watching videos on about MLMs and they're all basically pyramid schemes that somehow stay legal. There's a lot of overlap between religion, fundies and MLMs. I'm not surprised Allison has joined one. I think the wedding was probably Noah Hale and Abby Evans.

Winner winner chicken dinner! It was Noah and Abby.

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Deleted my original comment because it was honestly not my intention to speculate about the love life of minors. I thought everyone involved was of age, but I just checked and I see I was mistaken - my bad.

Apologies if I've offended anyone or broken any rules.

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Lgirlrocks

Don’t forget y’all mighty man is coming up. It’s this weekend. Their will be lots of manly food because men. The manly men need to fill their bellies with manly food. This saith Denver. 

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I thought it was next weekend, same weekend as the girly girl retreat a Helferich sister is now taking over for the no longer single Allison? 

I wonder if we'll get pictures of the manly food, because I still don't know WTF that is and need to, for some reason. 

All those push ups and other manly man tasks - I'll bet the girls can smell the testosterone and are all hot & bothered by it. 

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Lgirlrocks
15 minutes ago, fundiefan said:

I thought it was next weekend, same weekend as the girly girl retreat a Helferich sister is now taking over for the no longer single Allison? 

I wonder if we'll get pictures of the manly food, because I still don't know WTF that is and need to, for some reason. 

All those push ups and other manly man tasks - I'll bet the girls can smell the testosterone and are all hot & bothered by it. 

You are right it is next weekend. 

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Their manly food will be piles of rich meats and by the time the weekend is over, they will all have a nice case of gout. The manliest affliction of kings. 

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7 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

Their manly food will be piles of rich meats and by the time the weekend is over, they will all have a nice case of gout. The manliest affliction of kings. 

Either that or they’ll be badly constipated and spending time in reflection on their kingly thrones. 

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ophelia

There is an Instastory on the family profile in which the two remaining daughters are singing with Johannah Duggar. They even linked the official Duggar instagram profile.

I'm glad that Johannah seems to have friend in Elizabeth Bontrager I just find the timing odd.

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17 minutes ago, ophelia said:

There is an Instastory on the family profile in which the two remaining daughters are singing with Johannah Duggar. They even linked the official Duggar instagram profile.

I'm glad that Johannah seems to have friend in Elizabeth Bontrager I just find the timing odd.

I thought the timing was odd too. Was there a hidden agenda? We’re they sending a message of support for the Duggars? Or was it just bad timing? I can’t say. But if it was Liz who posted, she’s only 17. She might just be naive enough to not realize it’s bad timing.

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ElizaB

does anyone else notice that Chelsy isn't in any of the pictures on the bonts family blog about the wedding? I wonder if they were there...

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eljayem

Tons of photos of Johannah and Jackson Duggar in the newest Bontager post, lots with Johannah and Liz wearing the same outfit. I would find it fascinating if there was a marriage between those families. I just feel like the Duggars are fundie-lite in practice and the Bontragers definitely aren't.

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14 hours ago, JermajestyDuggar said:

I thought the timing was odd too. Was there a hidden agenda? We’re they sending a message of support for the Duggars? Or was it just bad timing? I can’t say. But if it was Liz who posted, she’s only 17. She might just be naive enough to not realize it’s bad timing.

It wouldn't surprise me if Liz has no idea about anything to do with Josh past or present. Then given how often the Duggar kids appear in those photos I doubt there are many to choose from that don't feature them.

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ophelia
25 minutes ago, eljayem said:

Tons of photos of Johannah and Jackson Duggar in the newest Bontager post, lots with Johannah and Liz wearing the same outfit. I would find it fascinating if there was a marriage between those families. I just feel like the Duggars are fundie-lite in practice and the Bontragers definitely aren't.

I can't really put my finger on it, but I have a feeling that the Duggar clan might be in a process of returning to their more stricter fundie days. Especially now with this new disgusting scandal.
But even before that they seemed to be closer to the Bontrager and Brower families than before and those two families are definitely hardcore fundie.
Maybe JB wants some kind of rebranding or maybe he hopes to keep the fold together with a return to a more fundie lifestyle.
Pure speculation, I know..

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Bluebirdbluebell

I'm surprised Marlin is happy his girls are friends with Johannah. In his speech at Chelsy's wedding, he said it was important for your kids' friends to be older than them so they provide them with wisdom. Peer groups were dangerous, because the kids were all the same age and equally unwise or something. He even made Chelsy's best friend stand up and some of his other kids' friends. 

Liz seems too young to mentor Hannie and Hannie seems too to mentor Rebecca Bontrager.

I think that's Tyler (from the Duggars) in one of the photos. It's the photo with the bookshelves and the rocking chair.

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lonedn

Do we know of any other Duggars that went to Denver and Praises wedding? Jackson and Johannah featured in a lot of the pictures both leading up to the day, and on the wedding day it self. A bit strange if only those two were there? 

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eljayem
8 minutes ago, ophelia said:

Maybe JB wants some kind of rebranding or maybe he hopes to keep the fold together with a return to a more fundie lifestyle.
Pure speculation, I know..

My impression is that a lot of the work of the Duggar family was due to it's sheer size, especially when all 19 kids were at home with lots of littles. Where as the Bontrager family seems to be about "hands to work hearts to god" they will find work, make work for themselves and relish in it, Thinking of Chelsy for example who would go to her pastors house on Sundays to help get his kids ready for church and give the pastors wife a break... can't see the single Duggar kids volunteering like that.

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1 hour ago, Bluebirdbluebell said:

I'm surprised Marlin is happy his girls are friends with Johannah. In his speech at Chelsy's wedding, he said it was important for your kids' friends to be older than them so they provide them with wisdom. Peer groups were dangerous, because the kids were all the same age and equally unwise or something. He even made Chelsy's best friend stand up and some of his other kids' friends. 

Liz seems too young to mentor Hannie and Hannie seems too to mentor Rebecca Bontrager.

I think that's Tyler (from the Duggars) in one of the photos. It's the photo with the bookshelves and the rocking chair.

I'm not familiar with Marlin's speech at Chelsy's wedding, but I read Chelsy's blog several times (I have no life!) and it appeared to me that she had lots of friends in her age group and took part in some kind of girls ministry for a long time. Over the years she travels quite a bit to attend those friends weddings and stuff like that. She seemed to have a very active social life.
Allison on the other hand seemed to have less friends, but still there are some girls she mentions multiple times on her blog.

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eljayem
1 hour ago, lonedn said:

Do we know of any other Duggars that went to Denver and Praises wedding? Jackson and Johannah featured in a lot of the pictures both leading up to the day, and on the wedding day it self. A bit strange if only those two were there? 

I can see that they would have been invited as a pair. Jackson purely as Johannah's chaperone. Not necessarily because of a love interest/courtship but just to be under the "protection" of a male relative. And as seen in the couch photo he comes in handy squeezing in next her so she doesn't touch a non-family male which is classic Bontrager.

3 minutes ago, ophelia said:

I'm not familiar with Marlin's speech at Chelsy's wedding, but I read Chelsy's blog several times (I have no life!) and it appeared to me that she had lots of friends in her age group and took part in some kind of girls ministry for a long time. Over the years she travels quite a bit to attend those friends weddings and stuff like that. She seemed to have a very active social life.
Allison on the other hand seemed to have less friends, but still there are some girls she mentions multiple times on her blog.

The older two girls seemed to have a lot more freedom than the younger two Bontrager girls have. Not sure if it's their age or a change Marlin and Becky have made. The older two had their own blogs and regularly went on long distance trips together to weddings etc. crossing the border to Canada, staying in motels etc Haven't seen either from the younger two nor did Alison take them on the same kind of trips she had with Chelsy in the gap between Chelsy and her marriage.

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Melissa1977
3 hours ago, eljayem said:

just feel like the Duggars are fundie-lite in practice and the Bontragers definitely aren't

Duggars are really fundie. No way they are fundie lite o mainstream. 

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